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Old 11-25-2002, 07:45 AM
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wet burnout=smoking the tires so they heat up and gain traction. Start in the burnout box with the water and smoke them until they get nice and warm then race.
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Originally posted by EricL
I hope you're not telling me that you are going to stop, accelerate, and/or corner better in wet conditions that in the dry.

If you really believe your tires work better wet than dry, you should get Lloyds of London to insure the tires until the engineers at the various auto firms can get over to your test track... :P :P
that's exactly what i'm telling u
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Originally posted by Scooter
that's exactly what i'm telling u
That score does not indicate that it performs better in the wet than it does when dry. It states that in that particular category the tire performs better that other Michelin tires.
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Originally posted by I am RobG
wet burnout=smoking the tires so they heat up and gain traction. Start in the burnout box with the water and smoke them until they get nice and warm then race.

Yes, I got that... but that's not what he said.

"Scooter" said, "keep in mind the Pilot Sport A/S's have better performance when they're wet than dry"

IMO, all-season rubber should NOT be going into the water for burnouts...
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Originally posted by scalbert
That score does not indicate that it performs better in the wet than it does when dry. It states that in that particular category the tire performs better that other Michelin tires.
Thank you!
Old 11-25-2002, 08:52 AM
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sorry, i fergot to include IMO...my bad...i included the chart in case anyone didn't realize how they rank in wet traction

dry-burnouts did shit for the tires...next time, i'm gonna try a wet-burnout...at this point, it couldn't hurt

and in my personal experiences, i've gotton better traction in wet weather than dry when i WOT...so what's Lloyd's of London's phone number???
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Hey guys!!!!!

Had an awesome time on Saturday. It was great meeting all of you, you're all a great group of people and I can't wait to do this again. We will definately have to meet up in March for the Honda event at etown.

The weather definately sucked and the track was way slick. My best run was a 9.747. But I must say it was a sweet victory - I dialed in at 9.8 and ran a 9.82
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Just in case no one knew:
Old 11-25-2002, 09:40 AM
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Shibby - it was nice to meet you too. I must say I was very impressed with your consistancy... good show .

I'm also proud to have lost to you in the second round (Blue TL-S). Of course I ran my fasted time of the day and broke my dial-in... but that just makes it more impressive b/c I couldn't be consitstant in an auto.....
Old 11-25-2002, 09:46 AM
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It was great time running at the track and linking faces to the names on this board. Can't wait to do it again.

Yeah, all the Type-S pretty much get a car length or so on me at launch. At speed, I pretty much accelerate at the same pace so I can't really pull on any of them. That's why a type-S cam swap sounds so much more attractive to me now.

I wish there was a non-SC 3.0 to run against.
Did all you guys brake-torque your cars at the start?
I didn't on any of them and I notice between the time I step on the pedal and the time the car actually gets going, there is a bout a 1-sec lag (~1000rpm rev).
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BTW... what would a time of 9.881 be in the 1/4? I have no idea how to figure this stuff out and nothing to compare it to.
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probably a 14.9ish. The guy on stangnet with that hideous yellow mustang i kept making fun of said some of us were running respectable times so at least they didn't start an internet war.
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Hey RobG remember you were telling me about the Camaro SS well unfortunately I went up against one of them for my last run. These are his numbers:
R/T....683
60'...2.044
330...5.552
1/8...8.401
MPH...85.94
I made the equation and that calculates to 0-60 in 4.06. Wow!!
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geez, first OBX vs. CT, now CL's vs. Stangs...these fights r too old...we need new fights!!!

after looking at my old slips and comparing 1/8's, im EXTREMELY shocked...my older 1/8's were in the 9.5 - 9.7 territory, and back then, i was just breaking into 14's, so 9.8's+ and up are around low 15's...in the frigid cold, windy air, u would think better times...the track was simply too slick for my tires
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Originally posted by I am RobG
probably a 14.9ish. The guy on stangnet with that hideous yellow mustang i kept making fun of said some of us were running respectable times so at least they didn't start an internet war.
that's what I was figuring... but one person told me mid-15's... so I was just wondering.

That's cool about that Mustang. Everyone there who wasn't with us seemed pretty cool..... I didn't see anyone really messing around or calling us names like ricers or anything. It's good to see that type of friendliness....
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BTW, with my spare and jack OUT of the car and a whole bunch of junk in the back seat (toolbox, jacket, Zaino & towels), my car weighed approx. 3418...add me, and u get 3623
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there's always mutual respect at the track, even when you get those loud fart cans that run 16's, people still dont say anything. It really is a good thing that you can go somewhere with american muscle and get along without having verbal arguments about "who's better"
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Yea Scooter I know you guys were having traction problems but I was not and still couldn't break 9.5.:thumbsdn: maybe I need headers cause I feel like the car jumps off the line but it boggs down in the higher rpm range. My next oil change Im switching to the 5w20 like the manual says maybe thats what is keeping my car slow.
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Originally posted by lou
Yea Scooter I know you guys were having traction problems but I was not and still couldn't break 9.5.:thumbsdn: maybe I need headers cause I feel like the car jumps off the line but it boggs down in the higher rpm range. My next oil change Im switching to the 5w20 like the manual says maybe thats what is keeping my car slow.
it's yer rims

go buy SSR Comps., and i'll gladly take yer GT1's off yer hands

BTW, empty out yer PM box!!!!
Old 11-25-2002, 11:13 AM
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good runs, hope the obx headers actually make a decent difference on my car when I decide to get them
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Originally posted by Scooter
it's yer rims

go buy SSR Comps., and i'll gladly take yer GT1's off yer hands

BTW, empty out yer PM box!!!!
I don't know what happen I only have one message in my PM box and it still says the box is full. Maybe I'm doing something wrong.
Old 11-25-2002, 11:28 AM
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Originally posted by lou
I don't know what happen I only have one message in my PM box and it still says the box is full. Maybe I'm doing something wrong.
adjust the time u can see Inbox messages to "from the beginning"

also, remove all Sent messages
Old 11-25-2002, 01:32 PM
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woah.. you are in Danbury? my whole family is in Danbury.. i am in Danbury like 2 times a week.. maybe we should meet up and run em
Old 11-25-2002, 04:53 PM
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Doug: I am always down for a friendly race. I live pretty much by the center of Danbury. I only have my CLS up here (the Maxima is with my parents in Queens). Not sure what your Maxima runs, but it should be a fun race. PM me if you want to meet up sometime
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Notice the 'T04e' in his sig?

BTW to the guy who asked, 9.881 in the 1/8th translates to between 15.3 and 15.5 in the 1/4 mile. The conversion is (1/8th time) x 1.56 = 1/4 time. You can use 1.55 to be a little optimistic, and 1.57 to be a little pessimistic.
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that 1.55 thing is inaccurate for us. I checked 3 of my 10 time slips from friday, and 1.53 seems to be right on, for me at least.
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Originally posted by Scooter
BTW, with my spare and jack OUT of the car and a whole bunch of junk in the back seat (toolbox, jacket, Zaino & towels), my car weighed approx. 3418...add me, and u get 3623
WOW…the weight advantage of the 6-Speed really shows up in this posting.
I weighed my car with the spare tire, jack and Kicker Amp, which must weigh at least 25-pounds still installed.
Not to mention I weigh about 50lbs more then Scooter.

With a 1/4 tank of gas and me in it, it weighted 3624 pounds.
I guess the headers are good for a 25 pound or more advantage though.

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Originally posted by Shawn S
WOW…the weight advantage of the 6-Speed really shows up in this posting.
I weighed my car with the spare tire, jack and Kicker Amp, which must weigh at least 25-pounds still installed.
Not to mention I weigh about 50lbs more then Scooter.

With a 1/4 tank of gas and me in it, it weighted 3624 pounds.
I guess the headers are good for a 25 pound or more advantage though.

Shawn S
Good point Shawn are the Comptech headers that much lighter than stock... 25lbs.
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Originally posted by lou
Good point Shawn are the Comptech headers that much lighter than stock... 25lbs.
The Comptech’s are definitely lighter then the stock CAST manifolds and CARBON STEEL down pipes.
I just guessed on the 25-pounds though, but I bet it's pretty close to that.

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they're significantly lighter, works out good either way more power and lighter. Hey lou, when you get the headers i'll give you that re-match you want hehe
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Originally posted by I am RobG
they're significantly lighter, works out good either way more power and lighter. Hey lou, when you get the headers i'll give you that re-match you want hehe
I'm looking forward to it, I already know what I need to do :thinking: so look out cause Imma coming.
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Lou... I definitely want a rematch if you get the headers... Hopefully I'll have better tires by that time
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Originally posted by Scooter
sorry, i fergot to include IMO...my bad...i included the chart in case anyone didn't realize how they rank in wet traction

dry-burnouts did shit for the tires...next time, i'm gonna try a wet-burnout...at this point, it couldn't hurt

and in my personal experiences, i've gotton better traction in wet weather than dry when i WOT...so what's Lloyd's of London's phone number???
Personally guys, stock tires, even ultra-high performance tires are not going to benefit much from a burn out. Not unless you have a very soft compound tire, like say a drag tire or slick. Those compounds will heat up enough to get really sticky. The type of tires we have won't soften up enough to make more than a hundreth or so difference. Not worth the wasted tread you'll get out of it.

The only thing I'd suggest is that you might want to spin them through a couple of times to clean any trash off of your tires. But not a burn out.

IMO - Ruf
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Originally posted by RUF87

The only thing I'd suggest is that you might want to spin them through a couple of times to clean any trash off of your tires. But not a burn out.
that's a good point, and yes, i did do this b/c of all the rubber that was left in burnout area
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quick spins are usuall enough to heat those types of tires up anyway. On the other hand i had to sit there for about 10-15 seconds and burnout my drag radials which didn't really make that much of a difference
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Originally posted by I am RobG
quick spins are usuall enough to heat those types of tires up anyway. On the other hand i had to sit there for about 10-15 seconds and burnout my drag radials which didn't really make that much of a difference
Hey RobG I was looking at the timeslip when we raced and you have a better 60' than I do in the automatic. I am impressed but not for long cause I got something up my sleeve. Anyways these are the #'s just in case you lost yours.

RobG:
R/T ~.935
60' ~ 2.274
1/8 ~9.149
MPH~ 75.84

Lou:
R/t ~.733
60' ~ 2.279
1/8 ~9.589 :thumbsdn:
MPH ~74.96
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dont worry lou i got something up my sleeve also, watch out come spring time
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CL-S 6speed faster thatn 540 auto

I was at E-Town that day and the best I could run was 9.3sec/75.71 mph. My 540 is completely stock and it was my first ever day at the track. Damn. I should've kept my TL-S and mod it. Still I think I can beat TL/CLS Acuras at higher (100+ mph) speeds.
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Re: CL-S 6speed faster thatn 540 auto

Originally posted by SergeyM
I was at E-Town that day and the best I could run was 9.3sec/75.71 mph. My 540 is completely stock and it was my first ever day at the track. Damn. I should've kept my TL-S and mod it. Still I think I can beat TL/CLS Acuras at higher (100+ mph) speeds.
I'll trade you my CL-S for your 540. Even trade...



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Re: CL-S 6speed faster thatn 540 auto

Originally posted by SergeyM
I was at E-Town that day and the best I could run was 9.3sec/75.71 mph. My 540 is completely stock and it was my first ever day at the track. Damn. I should've kept my TL-S and mod it. Still I think I can beat TL/CLS Acuras at higher (100+ mph) speeds.
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