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Old Jan 6, 2004 | 08:08 PM
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Dyno'd my car today!!!

completely stock 01 Type-S with 5 spd auto with 56300 on the odometer, runnin Mobil 1 10w-30, approx. ambient 50-55 degrees

run 1 - HP: 199.5 TQ: 178.1
run 2 - HP: 202.1 TQ: 184.8
run 3 - HP: 205.5 TQ: 186.5
run 4 - HP: 207.5 TQ: 185.9


I think these numbers are pretty strong for bein a stock car, when taking into account drivetrain loss and such. What numbers are others seen'?

I think my first mod will prob be a header most likely the OBX unit mostly because of price, has there been any comparison reports between the OBX and Comptech header? whether one or the other has better flow characteristics?
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Old Jan 6, 2004 | 08:17 PM
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I thought we had 260 hp??
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Old Jan 6, 2004 | 08:18 PM
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factory rated at flywheel is 260 yes, this is SAE corrected on dyno, in other words the power thats making it to the ground
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Old Jan 6, 2004 | 08:22 PM
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see how the power got stronger as u did more pulls...
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Old Jan 6, 2004 | 08:28 PM
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yea, not sure why that was, all 4 pull were in 3rd gear from about 3-3500 to 7000
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Old Jan 6, 2004 | 08:44 PM
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post the dyno.
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Old Jan 6, 2004 | 08:44 PM
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i will as soon as i can scan it or take a pic
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Old Jan 6, 2004 | 08:46 PM
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I thought we had 260 hp??

NOOB ALERT!


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:P lol
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Old Jan 6, 2004 | 08:47 PM
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207 hp is damn good for a stock CL-S.
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Old Jan 6, 2004 | 08:57 PM
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please post dyno graphs!

Thanks,
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Old Jan 7, 2004 | 12:48 AM
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what type of dyno machine was used for the test?
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Old Jan 7, 2004 | 12:51 AM
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Originally posted by Eggplant-EX
I thought we had 260 hp??


the engine makes 260 hp at the crank. the dyno measures power at the wheels. we have ~ 20% hp loss through the drivetrain.
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Old Jan 7, 2004 | 12:54 AM
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I thought we had 260 hp??
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Old Jan 7, 2004 | 12:57 AM
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i wanna dyno mine, should be putting close to 240
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Old Jan 7, 2004 | 01:12 AM
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Originally posted by darrinb
i wanna dyno mine, should be putting close to 240
i thought we had 260 hp??
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Old Jan 7, 2004 | 01:52 AM
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Old Jan 7, 2004 | 02:03 AM
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Old Jan 7, 2004 | 02:47 AM
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Re: Dyno'd my car today!!!

Originally posted by BlackCL_Type-S
completely stock 01 Type-S with 5 spd auto with 56300 on the odometer, runnin Mobil 1 10w-30, approx. ambient 50-55 degrees

run 1 - HP: 199.5 TQ: 178.1
run 2 - HP: 202.1 TQ: 184.8
run 3 - HP: 205.5 TQ: 186.5
run 4 - HP: 207.5 TQ: 185.9


I think these numbers are pretty strong for bein a stock car, when taking into account drivetrain loss and such. What numbers are others seen'?

I think my first mod will prob be a header most likely the OBX unit mostly because of price, has there been any comparison reports between the OBX and Comptech header? whether one or the other has better flow characteristics?
Not bad for a stock CLS auto...

My modded '03 CLS 6sp (with CT intake/headers/b-pipe/exhaust) dyno'd at CompTech with 236 WHP and 201 lbs. Tq. running Pilot Sport A/S 225/50ZR17s on stock rims. Ambient temp was between 55-60 degrees. CompTech said that the crank HP was probably between 300 to 307.

Do the mods... I'd do the intake and headers together first. You'll see a lot more gains with both since they compliment each other.
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Old Jan 7, 2004 | 10:22 AM
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There's no way you have 300hp at the crank. A 70hp loss would be a slipping automatic, not a fwd manual transmssion. To find out what the engine is making all you have to do it take your dyno numbers and divide them by .85 (6 speed) or .77 (auto).
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Old Jan 7, 2004 | 10:28 AM
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Originally posted by jtkz13
There's no way you have 300hp at the crank. A 70hp loss would be a slipping automatic, not a fwd manual transmssion. To find out what the engine is making all you have to do it take your dyno numbers and divide them by .85 (6 speed) or .77 (auto).
you obviously dont know what you're talking about...the cl type S auto is dyno proven to have an approximate 23% power loss to the wheels...thats 69 hp off 300 or 231 whp is =to 300 crank
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Old Jan 7, 2004 | 10:37 AM
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TypeR read the thread again.

Hookid on Foniks is ur frend.



And btw, you say it has 23% parasitic loss, I say divide by .77, does that SEEM like the same thing to you?
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Old Jan 7, 2004 | 11:07 AM
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And btw, you say it has 23% parasitic loss, I say divide by .77, does that SEEM like the same thing to you?
Actually that would be MULTIPLY by .77 if you want to get picky.
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Old Jan 7, 2004 | 11:16 AM
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You got me

Altho technically I was still right. Dyno number divided by .77 will net crank hp in an auto.

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Old Jan 7, 2004 | 11:30 AM
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300 hp?!?!

i thought we had 260 hp??
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Old Jan 7, 2004 | 11:33 AM
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Originally posted by Shawn S
Actually that would be MULTIPLY by .77 if you want to get picky.
haha!
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Old Jan 7, 2004 | 11:41 AM
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Originally posted by jtkz13
TypeR read the thread again.

Hookid on Foniks is ur frend.



And btw, you say it has 23% parasitic loss, I say divide by .77, does that SEEM like the same thing to you?
im not sure what you're asking here but i do see now that he was talking about his 6mt i got stuckon your slipping auto comment...i think the 6mt is 17% therefore 249 whp=300 crank
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Old Jan 7, 2004 | 11:46 AM
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I have always been told 15% for manual transmissions, and also consider that fwd's are a little more efficient than rwd so it's going to be a little less the standard for rwd.

A stock 6 speed shold in theory put down 221hp/197tq, which is pretty inline with what most people pull.
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Old Jan 7, 2004 | 12:07 PM
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Old Jan 7, 2004 | 12:21 PM
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300 hp?!?!

i thought we had 260 hp??


What an ass?
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Old Jan 7, 2004 | 02:28 PM
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Nice run on that dyno.

And :noob: to all the 260 comments.
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Old Jan 7, 2004 | 02:28 PM
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Originally posted by dfv3.2CL-S
what type of dyno machine was used for the test?
Ill check but im pretty sure its a Mustang MTsomethinorother...
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Old Jan 7, 2004 | 03:35 PM
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Question: 207.5hp...doesnt that equate to about 260hp crank, assuming 25% drivetrain loss (auto) ???? (If 23% loss assumption then I'm seeing 255 crank hp.)
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Old Jan 7, 2004 | 03:59 PM
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If it was a Mustang Dyno add another 3-5% parasitic loss because that style dyno actually puts the engine under load which is actually more accurate than the free-wheeling DynoJet style.
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Old Jan 7, 2004 | 04:00 PM
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parasitic and mustang belong in the same sentence.






sorry I had to.
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Old Jan 7, 2004 | 05:43 PM
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Originally posted by SilviaGTO
parasitic and mustang belong in the same sentence.




3000gt and reliability dont
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Old Jan 7, 2004 | 07:10 PM
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Originally posted by unsure
3000gt and reliability dont
Nice comeback.
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Old Jan 7, 2004 | 07:50 PM
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Originally posted by SilviaGTO
parasitic and mustang belong in the same sentence.






sorry I had to.

very nice......
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Old Jan 7, 2004 | 10:57 PM
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this is horse shit the salesman told me 260
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Old Jan 8, 2004 | 11:46 AM
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Originally posted by unsure
NOOB ALERT!


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:P lol

this is noob?

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maybe all this time he was on rambling forum!?!?!?!
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Old Jan 8, 2004 | 01:04 PM
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Originally posted by darrinb
this is horse shit the salesman told me 260
Thats when its new The more you drive it the more it loses thats why the dyno's always show lower
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