Does any one know the increase in sway bar size from the CL-S to the CL
04-09-2001, 07:44 PM
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Does any one know the increase in sway bar size from the CL-S to the CL
Does anyone know the increase in sway bar size from the CL to CL-S.
If anyone knows the torsion rate from the CL/TL to the CL-S, I would appreciate it.
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Silver 2001 CL-S with NAVI
If anyone knows the torsion rate from the CL/TL to the CL-S, I would appreciate it.
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Silver 2001 CL-S with NAVI
- Mud guards
- Wheel locks
- Toyo T1S 235/45ZR17-93W* Proxies on 17x8" SSR Competition wheels (48lbs less than stock)
- Kevlar/SS Brake lines ordered
- Comptech headers & sways ordered
- Silver AEM CAI ready
- 5 coats of Zaino magic
04-09-2001, 07:44 PM
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OMG, i didn't read your actual post. that like 150 lb more on the car vs. stock. man,
i gave my stock sways away.
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i gave my stock sways away.
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Comptech Headers, Comptech Sways, Eurolite Xenon Crystal high beams.
me.
gtech 0-60 6.03 w/ 438 pound load. preheader.
04-09-2001, 08:22 PM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by fast_daddy_car:
cl - 27.2mm front / 18mm solid rear
cl type s - 27.2mm front / 19mm solid rear
Comptech sway bars - much better!!!!!</font>
cl - 27.2mm front / 18mm solid rear
cl type s - 27.2mm front / 19mm solid rear
Comptech sway bars - much better!!!!!</font>
So, are you telling me that the guy I talked to a Comptech is a moron?
He was telling me that the CL-S had a different bar. Is this BS?
Sorry to beat a dead horse, but I need call these guys back!
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Silver 2001 CL-S with NAVI
- Mud guards
- Wheel locks
- Toyo T1S 235/45ZR17-93W* Proxies on 17x8" SSR Competition wheels (48lbs less than stock)
- Kevlar/SS Brake lines ordered
- Comptech headers & sways ordered
- Silver AEM CAI ready
- 5 coats of Zaino magic
04-09-2001, 09:00 PM
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I finally talked to one of "tech" guys. The effect is to promote slight oversteer from understeer. Here is the info:
TL front 1.075" thick .107 wall thickness
CLS front 1.075" thick .177 wall thickness
Even though the TL and CL-S have the same diameter bar, the CL-S has a thicker wall.
I guess I'll get used to less push and get ready to catch the back end.
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Silver 2001 CL-S with NAVI
[This message has been edited by EricL (edited 04-09-2001).]
TL front 1.075" thick .107 wall thickness
CLS front 1.075" thick .177 wall thickness
Even though the TL and CL-S have the same diameter bar, the CL-S has a thicker wall.
I guess I'll get used to less push and get ready to catch the back end.
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Silver 2001 CL-S with NAVI
- Mud guards
- Wheel locks
- Toyo T1S 235/45ZR17-93W* Proxies on 17x8" SSR Competition wheels (48lbs less than stock)
- Kevlar/SS Brake lines ordered
- Comptech headers & sways ordered
- Silver AEM CAI ready
- 5 coats of Zaino magic
[This message has been edited by EricL (edited 04-09-2001).]
04-09-2001, 09:06 PM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by EricL:
I finally talked to one of "tech" guys. The effect is to promote slight oversteer from understeer. Here is the info:
TL front 1.075" thick .107 wall thickness
CLS front 1.075" thick .177 wall thickness
Even though the TL and CL-S have the same diameter bar, the CL-S has a thicker wall.
I guess I'll get used to less push and get ready to catch the back end.
</font>
I finally talked to one of "tech" guys. The effect is to promote slight oversteer from understeer. Here is the info:
TL front 1.075" thick .107 wall thickness
CLS front 1.075" thick .177 wall thickness
Even though the TL and CL-S have the same diameter bar, the CL-S has a thicker wall.
I guess I'll get used to less push and get ready to catch the back end.
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04-10-2001, 12:15 AM
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I find that with just the sways (and stock springs and tires), the car goes where I point it.
Before in a hard turn, the car wanted to roll out into the other lane. If I turned harder into it, the back felt like it was about to break loose, felt like the inside rear tire was ready to lift off the road or lose traction.
With just the sways, all four tires stay planted. When I turn harder, the car goes where I want it to. When I push too much, it feels like the whole car will break loose and not just one tire.
does this make any sense?
Before in a hard turn, the car wanted to roll out into the other lane. If I turned harder into it, the back felt like it was about to break loose, felt like the inside rear tire was ready to lift off the road or lose traction.
With just the sways, all four tires stay planted. When I turn harder, the car goes where I want it to. When I push too much, it feels like the whole car will break loose and not just one tire.
does this make any sense?
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04-10-2001, 01:40 AM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by fast_daddy_car:
I find that with just the sways (and stock springs and tires), the car goes where I point it.
Before in a hard turn, the car wanted to roll out into the other lane. If I turned harder into it, the back felt like it was about to break loose, felt like the inside rear tire was ready to lift off the road or lose traction.
With just the sways, all four tires stay planted. When I turn harder, the car goes where I want it to. When I push too much, it feels like the whole car will break loose and not just one tire.
does this make any sense?
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I find that with just the sways (and stock springs and tires), the car goes where I point it.
Before in a hard turn, the car wanted to roll out into the other lane. If I turned harder into it, the back felt like it was about to break loose, felt like the inside rear tire was ready to lift off the road or lose traction.
With just the sways, all four tires stay planted. When I turn harder, the car goes where I want it to. When I push too much, it feels like the whole car will break loose and not just one tire.
does this make any sense?
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There is whole lot going on in this car. Being front heavy, some of the rules need to be altered to some extent.
Some comments:
With the stock car, but with the Toyos, the car is perfect doing really fast tight turns. I believe the shocks are getting the workout on the transients.
When the car goes to steady state -- like a skid pad, the shocks could be removed if the skid pad was smooth enough (and driver smooth enough). The shocks are eliminated from the equation to a great degree.
So, when the car is in a skid pad like "pose" -- going around a constant radius high-speed turn, I like the car to be able to have both ends come loose at the same time, or have just a little bit of front end push (not a lot).
So, if any of you guys get in a constant turn, and get the front or rear to come loose, please comment on your setup.
Forget out the fast turns, negative camber stuff, and bumpy roads.
A skid pad test would be worth $$$ -- we need our own magazine! (yea, just a fantasy)
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Silver 2001 CL-S with NAVI
- Mud guards
- Wheel locks
- Toyo T1S 235/45ZR17-93W* Proxies on 17x8" SSR Competition wheels (48lbs less than stock)
- Kevlar/SS Brake lines ordered
- Comptech headers & sways ordered
- Silver AEM CAI ready
- 6 coats of Zaino magic
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