droideka

I took my car in this A.M. for a second round of electrical problems since May in which the car stutters and tries to stall at a red light after 20 or so minutes of moving at a brisk pace (i.e., ripping ass up the freeway.) I just got a call from my S.A. saying that his tech had been on the line with Acura and that they had surmised that I had been sitting in park for extended periods of time with the engine running...

WHAT THE FUCK??? Can you say EXCUSES?

"Ummm... NO!!!! Keep working on it chief."

Tom2

So what exactly are they saying? Do they think that the extended idling could have overheated/clogged your catalytic converter?

Unless it's damaged, I don't see why extended idling would cause stalling???

eclipse23

You see you shoulda went with the BMW
No seriously I love when they do that shit.

droideka

You see, that's why I'm SO FUCKING IRATE! I NEVER, FUCKING EVER, park the car and idle it. Even in traffic I'm always moving, albeit slowly, but I'm moving. This stalling shit happens after the car's been sitting in the garage at work all day, and even then, it doesn't happen till after I've made a good run up the freeway. You'd think that it would happen immediately after sitting all day, but it doesn't.

droideka

I don't know about that. I'd rather the car stall than catch on fire like the 3 Series with the bad auxiliary fans.

Tom2

If you're gonna bash BMW, then get your shit straight-- It was a limited number of X5 trucks that had the bad fan problem, not any 3 series cars.....

spiroh

FYI 1 CL-S and 1 TL-S were recently caught on fire. Electrical problems.

droideka

Are you fucking shitting me, Tom? Check your facts, bitch!

CLICK HERE, TOM!

someguy

No, there were some 3 series that lit up. Go read bimmer.org The problem was a bad batch of fans built by Bosch. An M5 even caught on fire while on Euopean Delivery http://www.bimmer.org/m5/messages/messages/22538.html

Tom2

Hmmm.....

I've seen complaints from X5 owners on the BMW boards, but I don't ever see any 3 series owners complaining of fires.....

I wonder how many 3 series actually caught fire? From what I've read in the past, the number of vehicles that actually caught fire compared to the number of vehicles with the faulty fan/relay was around 1%

Tom2

Yeah, I remember reading a thread or two about the CL-S and TL-S catching fire. It was posted shortly after the BMW debacle.

But somehow, it conveniently seems to have been forgotten......

Tom2

Anyway, back to the original topic:

Droideka, I'm not saying that you do/don't idle your car for extended periods. I'm trying to find out what your Acura dealer is trying to tell you....

What is their explanation? Let's assume that you DID idle your car for hours every day. So what? How does Acura explain that it could cause stalling?

BigPimp

Tom, 3 series got recalled as well for that same problem, just an fyi. Carry on.

davo-cls

Happened to me again this morning. After about the third time I had to stop at a red light, it started idling normally again. I'm going in Thursday for the 15k service and I'll see what they tell me.

Scorpius

This type of thing almost makes me wish cars had a data recorder to PROVE you weren't in idle for a long time.

droideka

I understand you are not saying that, Tom. Bottom line is I think the dealership is fronting and that they don't have a FUCKING CLUE what is wrong. In fact, I'll go as far as to say that the last time I took it in they didn't fix shit and simply made up some technical bullshit ("Adjusted load detection circuit") to make the service report look "official".

Stravis

Vehicles possibly fitted with the bad electronic control unit include: 3 Series with manual transmissions built between Feb. 1 and April 30; 7 Series built between Nov. 1, 2000, and Jan. 8, 2001; X5s built between
Dec. 18, 2000, and April 30, 2001; and Z8s built between Jan. 1 and April 30. The recalled vehicles represent a little more than 10 percent of BMW’s annual U.S. sales of cars and light trucks.