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Old Jul 30, 2004 | 09:09 AM
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Do '03 CL-S have Xenon's

According to the Acura website, the 03 CL-S's had Xenon HID's. Is this true? The car I looked at did not appear to have them, only projector beams.
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Old Jul 30, 2004 | 09:13 AM
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That is correct señor
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Old Jul 30, 2004 | 09:13 AM
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maybe he swapped out the xenons, but yes we do have them.
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Old Jul 30, 2004 | 09:24 AM
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Did you have them turn the headlights on when you were looking at the car? Or are you basing this exterior appreance only?
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Old Jul 30, 2004 | 09:36 AM
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I was just going by appearance. But obviously I was wrong.
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Old Jul 30, 2004 | 09:37 AM
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01-03 3.2 CL's all have xenon headlights.
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Old Jul 30, 2004 | 10:23 AM
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All CL's & TL's from 2000 have HID lights
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Old Jul 30, 2004 | 11:15 AM
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speaking of xenons... how do i make them get the purplish hue??? stock cls have a more whiter apperance.
on my eclipse i bought aftermarket hid's, they were purple.

if anyone knows get at me...

i finally got pics of my car... they gonna be up in the photo thread
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Old Jul 30, 2004 | 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by sixgearcl
speaking of xenons... how do i make them get the purplish hue??? stock cls have a more whiter apperance.
on my eclipse i bought aftermarket hid's, they were purple.

if anyone knows get at me...

i finally got pics of my car... they gonna be up in the photo thread
I'd like to know this too.
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Old Jul 30, 2004 | 11:22 AM
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I'd like to know this too.
dude i heard all i had to change is the bulb... but they didnt specify... something about a different "#K" ??? operating temp i think??
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Old Jul 30, 2004 | 11:24 AM
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yes, I love those bluish ones, they look really nice
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Old Jul 30, 2004 | 11:44 AM
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4100K is the stock temp for our HID bulbs. the higher temp you go, the bluer it gets. Philips makes 5800K and 6000K bulbs that are bluer. some aftermarket HID bulbs produce 8000K and look violet or light purple. Our HID bulb size is D2R, but D2S uses the same bulb. D2R bulbs have a shield on the bulb to prevent glare for low beam. D2S are meant for projectors and don't have a shield, but they are the exact same bulb as the D2R.

Note: K=Kelvin
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Old Jul 30, 2004 | 11:54 AM
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Keep in mind, the higher kelvin you go, the shorter the life span of your ballasts and you greatly reduce the output of your lighting. I've written about this numerous times, automobile lighting is my blind-specialty .
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Old Jul 30, 2004 | 11:56 AM
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yeah, check sig
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Old Jul 30, 2004 | 12:10 PM
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Old Jul 30, 2004 | 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by nomogates
According to the Acura website, the 03 CL-S's had Xenon HID's. Is this true? The car I looked at did not appear to have them, only projector beams.
Maybe the highbeams were on. I don't think they have hids in the high beams
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Old Jul 30, 2004 | 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by NiteQwill
Keep in mind, the higher kelvin you go, the shorter the life span of your ballasts and you greatly reduce the output of your lighting. I've written about this numerous times, automobile lighting is my blind-specialty .
not worth changing the bulbs in my opinion
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Old Jul 30, 2004 | 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Vegeta1
Maybe the highbeams were on. I don't think they have hids in the high beams
u are correct the high beams are normal 9005 bulbs.
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Old Jul 30, 2004 | 12:59 PM
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ok but if the car is under warranty... and i "left the stock bulbs on " and the ballast were ruined... wouldn't it be cover because i "left the stock bulbs" on?
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Old Jul 30, 2004 | 01:26 PM
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The ballast wouldn't be ruined if you left the stock bulbs on. They are designed to handle it. The dealer will definitely be able to tell if the bulb is stock or not.
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Old Jul 30, 2004 | 01:47 PM
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yeah but if i bring it to the with the stock bulb on... ehhh huh??? "i never took it off, it just stopped working!!"
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Old Jul 30, 2004 | 02:29 PM
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I know what you're saying, but that sounds like too much of a risk.

What are you gonna do if everything is perfect until you have 110K miles on the car? I'm sure it's gonna cost a lot to replace it.
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Old Jul 30, 2004 | 03:06 PM
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ok so you want to put a bulb in to get the bluish/purple color, lose some light output in the process and risk the chance of the ballast blowing out because it's not designed for it?

good luck to ya!
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Old Jul 30, 2004 | 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by slyraskal
not worth changing the bulbs in my opinion
I agree. If you want that blue/purple look buy an Audi.

It's not worth losing the light output for a different color.
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Old Jul 30, 2004 | 03:31 PM
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So do audis lose light output or are theirs designed to look that way and still provide enough light?
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Old Jul 30, 2004 | 03:36 PM
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Yeah they have projector headlights which disperse the light in a way that makes it look that color when the car is coming at you.

Their light output is still high though.

A 1st gen guy actually put projectors on his CL.
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Old Jul 30, 2004 | 09:12 PM
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Anyone know what bi-xenons are and how they're different from regular xenons?
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Old Jul 30, 2004 | 09:47 PM
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aren't bi-xenon's used as both low/high beams, so they're both HID's in one light dispersement?
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Old Jul 30, 2004 | 09:55 PM
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^arent the new 04 tl's like that?
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Old Jul 30, 2004 | 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by NiteQwill
Keep in mind, the higher kelvin you go, the shorter the life span of your ballasts and you greatly reduce the output of your lighting. I've written about this numerous times, automobile lighting is my blind-specialty .
Being legal I think is the issue...PIAA makes off road, non-street legal bulbs too so keep that in mind when you get your cars annual inspection. Some places let a lot slide so ask around. In MA there are strict rules about the hight of your headlights. I only have a CT drop but the gave me heat just to let me know that they were going to "let me" get a sticker anyway. The b@ll buster is, it was another modder that just "had" to tell me to cover their butt. All I had for after market bulbs was PIAA high beams and those were legal.
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Old Jul 31, 2004 | 12:47 AM
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bixenon

Originally Posted by milad32
Anyone know what bi-xenons are and how they're different from regular xenons?
bixenon technology is actually not something technical at all. its just one xenon bulb with a mechanical shutter that moves a reflector from one position to another via electrical signals (left stalk).

now. otoh, they have come up with new xenon lights that increase visibility depending on lighting situation, dark road vs. city streets. those we will not see on cars for a few year.
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Old Aug 2, 2004 | 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by blackmagiCL_S
Being legal I think is the issue...PIAA makes off road, non-street legal bulbs too so keep that in mind when you get your cars annual inspection. Some places let a lot slide so ask around. In MA there are strict rules about the hight of your headlights. I only have a CT drop but the gave me heat just to let me know that they were going to "let me" get a sticker anyway. The b@ll buster is, it was another modder that just "had" to tell me to cover their butt. All I had for after market bulbs was PIAA high beams and those were legal.
anyone from the NYC area wouldnt even worry about passing inspection.

I had a honda with NO CAT TINTED WINDSCREEN NO HORN

i did pay 20 buck more but c'mon you know its worth it
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Old Aug 2, 2004 | 01:53 PM
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you might have to go some tint shops or aftermarket shops and ask around cause I'm sure they will know places where the inspectors let you slide.
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Old Aug 2, 2004 | 09:39 PM
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do u guys replace your xenon light bulbs after 1 or 2 years. if i get new bulbs would they shine brighter than the older ones? or do they stay the same?
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Old Aug 2, 2004 | 10:43 PM
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here simplified version answers:


all stock (INCLUDE PROJECTOR, Bi-xeon, audi, bmw) are 43k which is yellowish white color. some of the cars with projectors, the light seems to change color that is because of the projector NOT the bulbs.


Projector HID use D2S (the type of bulb) bulb which has 4300k(Stock) 6000k (purpleish white), 7000k(7.5k) blueish white. 8000k (more blue than white), 10000k BLUE
Reflector HID (CLS) use D2R bulbs. the color and K are the same as D2S bulbs.

Higher K doesnt mean you will see better. It might be brighter if u look at ur car from outside but when you sit inside the car 4300k (Stock) is the best for visibility. because the higher the K is the more blue it gets. 4300k-5500k is the closest color to our normal sunlight which is the best for visibility.

Projector (D2S) and Reflector (D2R) are exchangeable with minor modifications. For example. You might notice at night (inside the car) the CLS HID has a cut off line. but when u put D2S Projector bulbs in, you will not see the cut offline anymore (u can see the top of your house)

The color of HID bulbs will become more yellow as years pass by. and HID bulbs usually as 4-5 times longer than regular bulbs. if you dont like the color of ur HID bulbs, all u need is change the bulb, not the entire assembly.
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Old Aug 2, 2004 | 10:57 PM
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as far as i know my whole lighting setup is stock, yet it is a very distinct purple light, not an aftermarket purple, i've seen these on many TLs and CLs, i'm not sure why everyone else has white/yellow lights :\
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Old Aug 2, 2004 | 11:12 PM
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so its not good to put some 6k's in?? u guys are saying it will shorten the life of the ballasts..???
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Old Aug 2, 2004 | 11:20 PM
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Originally Posted by darrinb
so its not good to put some 6k's in?? u guys are saying it will shorten the life of the ballasts..???
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there is no good or bad answer. 6k is acutally ok. u will barely notice any difference (visibility)except for the color but u WILL notice a big visibility difference if u put 7k especialy 10000k.

who said 6k will shorten the life of the ballasts? i dont think it would. all of the HID bulbs regardless what K all use less power than regular bulbs.
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Old Aug 2, 2004 | 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by CleanCL
as far as i know my whole lighting setup is stock, yet it is a very distinct purple light, not an aftermarket purple, i've seen these on many TLs and CLs, i'm not sure why everyone else has white/yellow lights :\
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did u buy the car used or new? if it is used then the previous owner might have changed it. If you bought it new then i have no idea, maybe it is just your imagination. FYI when u first turn on ur HID the color is blue/purple ish but after about 10-15 secs when it is fully charged, the color of ur stock HID will become yellowish white.
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Old Aug 2, 2004 | 11:49 PM
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^-----regarding that statement

Why is it that it starts up all bluish looking tight, and then becomes more white? I don't understand the whole "warming up" process? Can you explain?
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