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Old 02-21-2007, 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by typeR
if u think about it it's not that off topic...the thread starter compared our weight to the F body ...then some additional comparisons have been made...in reality wasnt the ifnerance of our weight to do with the power or lack thereof
Lol i was the thread starter and yea i did compare them, but it was just to tell that our car is not that much lighter than an American sports car.

And he is building himself a LS2 thus the cam and heads...

Either way, i just found it funny that i started with weight comparison and then it goes into racing in a few posts...
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Originally Posted by 3.2CLS
Go on the LS1 forums, you'll find tons of miracles.

Sorry to burst everyone's bubbles but stock LS1s do run low 13s, with a mid sized cam upgrade along with full exhaust and a lid, you're looking around 340-370rwhp and that's good enough for low 12s, high 11s with a decent driver. So with a cat-back, yeah LS1s run 12.8-13.0 depending on the driver all day long.

Yes we're comparing straight line muscle vs luxury/comfort/some speed, but making the claim that his highly modded CL-S runs with LS1s all day long is just false. Here are just one timeslip:



Right lane, ran 12.6 with lid, intake, exhaust, and 3500stall.



Point is, enjoy that we have a smooth, quiet luxury ride that has some speed, but do not start comparing apples and oranges. LS1 is completely out of our league as our most modded cars run even with an LS1 car with $750 of mods.
right lane same track...i have him by a car at the light...he pulls even at about 660 and stretches it out to about 3 cars at the 1320...now how many cars on the street do you think see me get out a car on them from the light and end up in a little wheel spin and never catching up?



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if these two slips occured at the exact same time everyone there would have been looking at a great drag race with the L coming out on top...try counting from 1 to 10 in one second...he beat me by about 5 of those counts,remembering i took a .15 lead of the bat
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Originally Posted by artbran
Lol i was the thread starter and yea i did compare them, but it was just to tell that our car is not that much lighter than an American sports car.

And he is building himself a LS2 thus the cam and heads...

Either way, i just found it funny that i started with weight comparison and then it goes into racing in a few posts...
just to let you know with a mild cam, tune, and longtubes my 6 speed ws6 made 403 rwhp....cammed ls1's make alot more than 370....and also thatcar running 12.60's with a 3500 stall is pretty slow...my buddys 2002 z28 with a 3200 stall, lid, catback, tune will run 12.30-12.40's all day long on nittos
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Originally Posted by 3.2CLS
Go on the LS1 forums, you'll find tons of miracles.

Sorry to burst everyone's bubbles but stock LS1s do run low 13s, with a mid sized cam upgrade along with full exhaust and a lid, you're looking around 340-370rwhp and that's good enough for low 12s, high 11s with a decent driver. So with a cat-back, yeah LS1s run 12.8-13.0 depending on the driver all day long.

Yes we're comparing straight line muscle vs luxury/comfort/some speed, but making the claim that his highly modded CL-S runs with LS1s all day long is just false. Here are just one timeslip:



Right lane, ran 12.6 with lid, intake, exhaust, and 3500stall.



Point is, enjoy that we have a smooth, quiet luxury ride that has some speed, but do not start comparing apples and oranges. LS1 is completely out of our league as our most modded cars run even with an LS1 car with $750 of mods.
just to let you know with a mild cam, tune, and longtubes my 6 speed ws6 made 403 rwhp....cammed ls1's make alot more than 370....and also thatcar running 12.60's with a 3500 stall is pretty slow...my buddys 2002 z28 with a 3200 stall, lid, catback, tune will run 12.30-12.40's all day long on nittos
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Originally Posted by typeR
right lane same track...i have him by a car at the light...he pulls even at about 660 and stretches it out to about 3 cars at the 1320...now how many cars on the street do you think see me get out a car on them from the light and end up in a little wheel spin and never catching up?



http://public.fotki.com/typeR/typer/dsc00029.html


if these two slips occured at the exact same time everyone there would have been looking at a great drag race with the L coming out on top...try counting from 1 to 10 in one second...he beat me by about 5 of those counts,remembering i took a .15 lead of the bat
dude a stalled ls1 will rip you so hard out the hole your mouth would drop...that car only leaving with a 1.8 sucks for a 3500 ls1..give him some good tires and a car like that will pull 1.6's everytime...you wouldnt even know what to do
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Originally Posted by AcuraCL-S
Hey guys how many lbs does a CF hood takes off? Cuz i seen one on the ebay going for 390+ shipping..

Yes our cars heavy but they are also comfy which is why i love my 6Spds..

not enough to make a diff.
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How did some of you tools go from Him saying it would TAKE those mods to beat him to him being able to run and beat them with those mods?? He never said he would take a a camed and modded LS1. Quit comparing modded ones. He said STOCK.
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Originally Posted by bmehling
dude a stalled ls1 will rip you so hard out the hole your mouth would drop...that car only leaving with a 1.8 sucks for a 3500 ls1..give him some good tires and a car like that will pull 1.6's everytime...you wouldnt even know what to do
Did he say it wouldnt? What exactly do you keep reading that you have to keep throwing in different mods to a LS1 that will rip him apart??
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May be he thinks he's proving his point further?
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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
How did some of you tools go from Him saying it would TAKE those mods to beat him to him being able to run and beat them with those mods?? He never said he would take a a camed and modded LS1. Quit comparing modded ones. He said STOCK.
he did compare his car to that stalled ls1
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Originally Posted by bmehling
he did compare his car to that stalled ls1
He used a time slip that SOMEONE else posted and simply said that it would have been a good race. He never said he raced them and would beat them. We all got your point. Modded LS1s will beat him. Thats NOT the point! The point is he will give a good run and beat stock ones.
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Originally Posted by 3.2CLS
Go on the LS1 forums, you'll find tons of miracles.

Sorry to burst everyone's bubbles but stock LS1s do run low 13s, with a mid sized cam upgrade along with full exhaust and a lid, you're looking around 340-370rwhp and that's good enough for low 12s, high 11s with a decent driver. So with a cat-back, yeah LS1s run 12.8-13.0 depending on the driver all day long.

Yes we're comparing straight line muscle vs luxury/comfort/some speed, but making the claim that his highly modded CL-S runs with LS1s all day long is just false. Here are just one timeslip:

Right lane, ran 12.6 with lid, intake, exhaust, and 3500stall.

Point is, enjoy that we have a smooth, quiet luxury ride that has some speed, but do not start comparing apples and oranges. LS1 is completely out of our league as our most modded cars run even with an LS1 car with $750 of mods.

Haha that's hilarious. I could put a timeslip up there that shows a 12 second run and claim it's my car. There's just no proof behind any claims unless both cars were at the same track under the same conditions. I think everyone can agree up untill now, that NOBODY in "tropical conditions" (high humidity and high temperatures) has seen a Trans Am with JUST a catback run 12.8s all day long. Anybody? I'm assuming not since no one has spoken up yet...
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Originally Posted by bmehling
dude a stalled ls1 will rip you so hard out the hole your mouth would drop...that car only leaving with a 1.8 sucks for a 3500 ls1..give him some good tires and a car like that will pull 1.6's everytime...you wouldnt even know what to do
fact is that car did what it did at the same track i did what i did...on probablly the best weather you're ever gonna see in florida...this aint english town...not too many records are set here...my 1.9's and 2.0's were all done on street tires.
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Originally Posted by GreenMachine
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Ok i got a buddy thats all about muscle cars.. he had a 01 Camaro with the Z28 car only had a Drop in and Loud mouth pipes, he ran a 12.7 and trapped well over 100MPH... now he has an 01 Firehawk with headers/pipes/intake.. about 350RWHP those cars are wicked fast with minimal mods, yes Type R has a fast cl which will beat and hang with some LS1'S
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