but I think the CL-S 6 speed is a beast in diguise. The 6 speed stock is faster than my modded 02' auto but just thinking of what this car can be is scary.

With the recent Comptech lightweight clutch upgrade and possible EcU upgrade is only making me wonder and I would really like to see what you guys think.

Allmotor is testing this and its great


Platform: stock CL-S 6 speed 260 HP

mods currently available:

Comptech Ice-box ~ 10-15 HP
Comptech headers ~ 28-32 HP
Comptech lightweight clutch ~ 10-15 HP
Comptech exhaust ~1-3 HP
light-weight wheels ~5 HP
Brembo brake kit rotors are 6lbs. lighter~ 3HP
UR crank pulley ~10 HP

possible future upgrades:
Comptech B-pipe ~ 5HP
ECU upgrade ~ 5-10 HP

Im guessing with all the mods listed you would be very close to 300 Hp to the wheel ....what would that translate to at the drags....isn't 300 Hp to the wheel more than the M3 is putting down??

Is this car capable of running mid 13's without the ultimate S/C? It seems like this car is the ultimate project car

 

I don't wanna brag, but my car is fast as hell right now. I'm probably pushing more than 250whp easily if those figure are correct.
My car dynoed at 231whp with just intake pulleys, stock wheels and exhaust, but it only had 1400 miles on it. Now I got the headers and light weight wheels, and I'm at 6500 miles.
Plus I can light up my wheels going at 20mph in 1st and flooring it.

 

Here's a real world one: Comptech's 2003 CL-S 6 speed is supercharged and has everything listed above except the ECU upgrade and the UR crank pully. So far, it's tested at 300 WHP. Traction is the limiting factor - hard to get the thing to hook up through the first two gears.

 

http://www.acura-cl.com/forums/showt...hreadid=100491

 

thats a little optimistic lou...with all that we'll get about 275whp.

 

yeah, unfortunately you dont just add all those numbers...The power is added is different parts and there is some ovelap so you don't get all the advertised added power with all those mods. not to say that the car won't be fast with all that stuff. One thing to consider ist that most of those mods add power in the higher RRMs, where the SC will add much more low end power along with the high end. So in the end, looking at the torque curves is more inportant that peak hp. Again....it all about traction and driving skill if you want to run good times.

 

i was talking to this guy at Long Island Motorwerks and they specialize in Audi/VW/mercedes, etc etc. he has a 98 a4 and he did the k04 turbo upgrade, motor mounts, drivetrain stabilizers, SACH clutch, 35 shot Zex before and after the intercooler, upgraded intercooler, APR chip etc etc. My GOD that thing was fast. I want my audi back just for that reason. He beat a wrx with at least intake/exhaust/BOV. I was definitely impressed

 

I think 275whp is quite easy NA... 300whp will be a tad difficult because the mods just don't 'add' up like you stated.

I regret one experiment that I didn't try when my car was turbocharged... lower the boost 0.5psi at a time until I find the MINIMUM boost required to make just 300whp... I think this figure will be around 3.0 to 3.5psi.

Subsequently, I feel 300whp is possible and the car will run 13.2's NA properly setup.

 

Just dropped off my 03 CLS 6 sp this morning to have my Acura dealer install CT intake/headers/springs/sways. Only got 3800 miles on it, but it seemed very quick to me. Considerable faster than my 01 CLS was, especially in third gear and above. Can't wait to see how much faster she'll be and how much better she'll handle after the CT upgrade.

 

Damn...do everything at once why don't you?

 

He forgot the SC,,, waiting until next month I guess,,,

 

Wasn't quite brave or rich enough to do the CT S/C. However, I've got a set of Michelin 225/50ZR17s waiting to go on after the CT upgrade.

When stock shocks need replacement, I'll probably go with Konis and CT stabilizer bar. And maybe a Brembo upgrade.

Stock clutch, same story - I'll probably replace it with the CT clutch/flywheel kit.

BTW - my dealer uses 02 TLs as loaner cars. Kinda weird driving the 5 sp auto again and driving the 6 sp. Also, I noticed that the TL is so much quiter than the CL.

 

add some ultra-light SSR Comp rims to that too

 

I'm doing the same installed at PAA next month. Yee Haw.

 

someone tell me about these? is this true replacement blanks are 3lbs lighter? drilled?slotted? how much?



me too and that's my goal...i figure with not having the 6mt but having the 3.5 is kinda of an equalizer

 

Would any or all of the following be correct?

1) Most car manufacturers measure hp at the "flywheel", including Acura which rates the 03 CLS 6sp at 260 "flywheel" hp.

2) I believe "flywheel" hp use to be called SAE hp. And "whp" use to be called DIN hp. Back in the sixties and seventies, most American made cars were rated with SAE hp and most European made cars were rated with DIN hp.

3) Assuming Acura is correct with the "flywheel" hp of 260 for a stock CLS and that there's roughly a 15% hp loss at the wheels, then stock whp would be around 221 whp (see CT dyno chart for Icebox and the stock numbers).

4) So would the "flywheel" hp for a CLS 6sp with CT intake and headers be something like 315 "flywheel" hp?

5) Given 315 "flywheel" hp for a CLS 6sp with CT intake/headers, that would make for about 268 whp.

This is just another way of looking at things.

 

the stock rotors weigh like 18lbs and my 12.4 Brembo rotors weigh 12 lbs. thats 6 lbs weight saving then my SSR are 14 lbs. while stock are like 22lbs. so another 8 lbs.......overall with my setup Ill be about 14-15 lbs. lighter of unsprung weight from stock. What that transfers to the dyno and the track we will find out soon enough


even if its only 275 HP to the wheel what is that to the crank 330-340 HP to the crank N/A

 

just imagine if it was rwd tho.. weight transfer is irreplaceable..

 

doesnt brembo have o.e. blanks for us and are those lighter?