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Old May 11, 2005 | 10:37 PM
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i talked to someone the other day with a cls...he said that he got his computer tuned at a performance shop and it gave him huge gains...he said something about our throttle body only opening 83% with the stock setup and that you can make it open all the way...anyone know anything about this?
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Old May 11, 2005 | 11:38 PM
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Originally Posted by quicksilver10101
i talked to someone the other day with a cls...he said that he got his computer tuned at a performance shop and it gave him huge gains...he said something about our throttle body only opening 83% with the stock setup and that you can make it open all the way...anyone know anything about this?
interesting...
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Old May 12, 2005 | 12:50 AM
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Old May 12, 2005 | 01:17 AM
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port & polish? iono how a computer would be able to achieve this though...
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Old May 12, 2005 | 01:17 AM
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Old May 12, 2005 | 01:45 AM
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I'm alil' skeptical... cause if it was that easy, I would imagine hella people would already have it? Sounds interesting though. Keep us updated.
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Old May 12, 2005 | 09:14 AM
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While it is my understanding that our ECM is nonprogrammable . . . . I will that this is true . . . but I won't hold my breath.

I have more hope that RES will be real one day.

Ruf
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Old May 12, 2005 | 09:38 AM
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The ECM IS unprogrammable.... this is

Ask Ram (allmotor), he knows.
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Old May 12, 2005 | 10:13 AM
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..maybe a unichip installed.. BUT NO huge gains.

... e-manage?
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Old May 12, 2005 | 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Smitty
..maybe a unichip installed.. BUT NO huge gains.

... e-manage?
Maybe Unichip.
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Old May 12, 2005 | 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by quicksilver10101
...he said something about our throttle body only opening 83% with the stock setup and that you can make it open all the way...

My throttle body goes to eleven.

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Old May 12, 2005 | 12:55 PM
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i think he might have said he had a jet chip....so its only posssible to tune the engine with an aftermarket chip?
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Old May 12, 2005 | 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by quicksilver10101
i think he might have said he had a jet chip....so its only posssible to tune the engine with an aftermarket chip?

Oh god, not the jet chip. Run don't walk away from him. That chip is the biggest load of snake oil next to the Tornado and Duralube.
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Old May 12, 2005 | 01:08 PM
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so is it worth it to get a unichip on my 01 cls auto..i have cai and headers
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Old May 12, 2005 | 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by quicksilver10101
so is it worth it to get a unichip on my 01 cls auto..i have cai and headers

I think the uni-chip fell flat on its face as well... try a search on Unichip..or wait for another member to answer that one..
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Old May 12, 2005 | 01:50 PM
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uni-chip= for most members

I believe the results were minimal if anything for gains
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Old May 12, 2005 | 02:26 PM
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I was one of the unfortunate few who bought into the Unichip. I was able to get about 4-5 whp with it after having a custom tune.
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Old May 12, 2005 | 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by dj5
I was one of the unfortunate few who bought into the Unichip. I was able to get about 4-5 whp with it after having a custom tune.
I have too and wouldn't buy it. I would like to get mine dyno-tuned but the closest authorized shop is in Chicago.
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Old Aug 31, 2005 | 09:48 AM
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a mechanic I know got a Mugen computer for his 2003 TL-S, and he said he's putting down 30whp+ with the new computer and an intake. he told me he fixed a car for some dude and he just gave him that computer (not sure if it's the whole thing or just the ECU chip). he said after the mod, his buddy with a 03'CLS6MT was eating dust (dunno if CLS was stock or not)
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Old Aug 31, 2005 | 10:39 AM
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....wow, didnt' know about that.................
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Old Aug 31, 2005 | 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by belcom
a mechanic I know got a Mugen computer for his 2003 TL-S, and he said he's putting down 30whp+ with the new computer and an intake. he told me he fixed a car for some dude and he just gave him that computer (not sure if it's the whole thing or just the ECU chip). he said after the mod, his buddy with a 03'CLS6MT was eating dust (dunno if CLS was stock or not)


Is this the same mechanic that said that headers don't do anything?

https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...12#post2408812
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Old Sep 1, 2005 | 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted by phipark


Is this the same mechanic that said that headers don't do anything?

https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...12#post2408812
yeah, same one. and yes I was quite surprised myself. and still am thinking of getting headers anytime soon (after the icebox). the computer thing I'm gonna look into and find out some more info about it.
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Old Sep 1, 2005 | 09:11 AM
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i have the unichip and i gained 1.5 miles per hour in the 1/8th in 10* hotter weather...you do the math
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Old Sep 1, 2005 | 07:43 PM
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i have the unichip and i gained 1.5 miles per hour in the 1/8th in 10* hotter weather...you do the math
you may have gained, but your car is nowhere near the levels of any other NA CLS/TLS
Generally, any tuning will do no good in an NA application unless you are doing more than just the basic boltons. The unichip is too costly and i highly doubt you will gain more than 10 whp with proper tuning.
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Old Sep 2, 2005 | 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by belcom
a mechanic I know got a Mugen computer for his 2003 TL-S, and he said he's putting down 30whp+ with the new computer and an intake. he told me he fixed a car for some dude and he just gave him that computer (not sure if it's the whole thing or just the ECU chip). he said after the mod, his buddy with a 03'CLS6MT was eating dust (dunno if CLS was stock or not)
He is full of it. Mugen wouldn't touch the J32A2 engine as it isn't even used in Asia. This mechanic has already shown his ignorance once, this is the second time.
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Old Sep 2, 2005 | 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by quicksilver10101
i talked to someone the other day with a cls...he said that he got his computer tuned at a performance shop and it gave him huge gains...he said something about our throttle body only opening 83% with the stock setup and that you can make it open all the way...anyone know anything about this?
Two issues, the computer cannot be reprogrammed and the throttle is cable control by your foot. No computer changes could alter that.
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Old Sep 2, 2005 | 01:44 PM
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He is full of it. Mugen wouldn't touch the J32A2 engine as it isn't even used in Asia. This mechanic has already shown his ignorance once, this is the second time.
Originally Posted by scalbert
Two issues, the computer cannot be reprogrammed and the throttle is cable control by your foot. No computer changes could alter that.
I love when Scalbert has people, esp. a mechanic.

And btw he claims he gained 30whp with a Mugen ECU and intake, but headers do nothing. He probably put headers on and got 30whp and is claiming he has a Mugen ECU.
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Old Sep 2, 2005 | 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by belcom
a mechanic I know got a Mugen computer for his 2003 TL-S, and he said he's putting down 30whp+ with the new computer and an intake. he told me he fixed a car for some dude and he just gave him that computer (not sure if it's the whole thing or just the ECU chip). he said after the mod, his buddy with a 03'CLS6MT was eating dust (dunno if CLS was stock or not)
That mechanic is full of shiiizinhouzin. There are stand alone ECU's that will work on our motors, but they will only control ignition, fuel etc, not the creature comforts and other systems the honda unit controls,

on a side note, i've been trying to figure this out for a while, what in the world does this stand for? , ok, laugh me off the board
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Old Sep 2, 2005 | 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by ThinJim
That mechanic is full of shiiizinhouzin. There are stand alone ECU's that will work on our motors, but they will only control ignition, fuel etc, not the creature comforts and other systems the honda unit controls,

on a side note, i've been trying to figure this out for a while, what in the world does this stand for? , ok, laugh me off the board
:gtfo:

as in word, as in right on, as in, you are correct, as in I agree with you.
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Old Sep 2, 2005 | 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by scalbert
Two issues, the computer cannot be reprogrammed and the throttle is cable control by your foot. No computer changes could alter that.
although i wonder if the TPS reported 83% even if it were fully opened might that alter maps ? doubt it as i think you've mentioned anything above like 30% throttle the car goes closed loop?
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Old Sep 2, 2005 | 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by scalbert
He is full of it. Mugen wouldn't touch the J32A2 engine as it isn't even used in Asia. This mechanic has already shown his ignorance once, this is the second time.
you sure i thought the inspire/sabre have the J series?and the oddessey
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Old Sep 2, 2005 | 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by typeR
although i wonder if the TPS reported 83% even if it were fully opened might that alter maps ? doubt it as i think you've mentioned anything above like 30% throttle the car goes closed loop?
Other way around, above about 30% is open loop.

But many ECUs consider above 75% - 80% to be WOT so even a reading of 83% throttle position would be thought of as WOT. If the throttle were only actually open about 83% then a mechanical adjustment could be made. But no program would help that.
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Old Sep 2, 2005 | 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by typeR
you sure i thought the inspire/sabre have the J series?and the oddessey
I beleive the Japanese Odyssey is a different platform and uses the K series.

I am not sure about the others exactly. But note, I never said the J-Series its self. I said the J32A2 which I know is exclusive to the NA market.
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Old Sep 2, 2005 | 03:57 PM
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So what % is considered WOT on the J32A2? Would it be the same for all J series?
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