Don't know anybody posted before. Pretty impressive

http://www.comptechusa.com/images/dy...spd_icebox.pdf

 

Now, where are the 5 speed results? Or will it be the same?

 

wow..that's awesome..i may have to get rid of my CAI and go clean w/ comptech!

 

I hope this is not another case of inflated gains.

 

6spd, everyone, 6spd. the auto will be a little less.

 

14 whp is pretty nice. I wonder what mods that car already has on it since Comptech typically dynos modified cars. My guess is headers and exhaust.....

 

These results for the 6-speed have been out for some time now. Most people are now waiting the the 5-speed auto results to be published.

 

The numbers are pretty impressive for a CAI, but I don’t care for the stock look of the box or its so-called lack of “scream” when the VTEC is at full song.
Those are some of the reasons I like my CAI and I wouldn’t replace it for 3 or 4 additional HP if it looks & sounds like a stock vehicle.

Shawn S

 

I have to agree there

 

But it also has less of a chance of hydro locking...and when you are below sea level already (like me) it floods at a blink of an eye. I think I might make the switch.

 

theres no chance of hydrolock unless you go 4 ft under water

 

I know the chances are slim to none but I would rather have even less of a chance...I cant afford a new engin I dont know how the sound on the CT will be but I think I am going to try it out anyway...and if it sucks and sounds crapy...ill just sell it to one of you guys and slap the AEM back on. I also have been waiting till it gets a little cooler so I can go dyno my car...so maybe I can do a comparason with the AEM and the CT

 

I thought it's stock... Because on top of the chart it says "stock". If there are header and exhaust, the chart should indicate "H/E". I really want to find out with Comptech or may be Dean can answer our question.....

 

For a few of us--and I know we are in the Minority, the Sound it makes is not as important as the gains. Less Sound is actually a "PLUS" in my Book, and would make me more likely to buy it.

 

Well put!!

 

Actually the auto and stick whp should not be that far off. The auto extracts it's penalty as more of a DC or constant level. It is not necessarily a straight percent. Consider an auto on a 100hp or 200hp motor. If it were a 20% loss, and the exact same tranny and tq converter, do you really think you'd loose 20hp on one and 40hp on the other. Not. There is some amount of % change between the 2 but it will be very small.

 

More importantly look at the torque, which is where the CLS/TLS could use a little help.

 

guys, lets be real here, Comptech exagerates its dynos....name ONE person that has ever got a dyno run with the headers that MATCHED the comptech dyno showing 32 whp gain!!! NOONE has ever shown a similar dyno. the fact is that the headers do a max of around 25 hp gain. the icebox will be the same thing, that dyno is probably exagerated in a similar way, i wouldnt expect more than a 10 whp MAX gain out of that icebox....either way though, the icebox SHOULD outperform a typical CAI....its got much more airflow into the icebox than a typical CAI with its fully enclosed filter.

 

I check out the design of the ICE box and I don't see why it would outperform a regular CAI. From what I can tell, it still has to flow through the Comptech filter "BOX" which in my opinion will actually create a lot of unwanted turbulence in the "box" before it exits to the pipe that is connecting to the intake manifold.

Can someone explain why the ICE Box is better?

 

Do some research on intake designs and you'll see why one CAI differes from another. Just because it looks similar doesn't mean it does the same thing.

 

when is the ice box gonna come out???

 

Figure another 10% loss off the whp...

 

I'm sure Dean would know.....

As for the term Stock.. it should probably read baseline. When Comptech was dynoing the Icebox for the Integra/RSX way back when they were showing 17hp gains... but what they didn't tell you is that was on a Supercharged car. Again.. this is just what I've read.. it may not be accurate.

Either way the gains are nice. Comptech produces quality products, so I'm sure this is along those same lines.....

 

guys look carefully at the pdf file...there are 2 pages...the first one deals with the stock 6-speed...and the second deals with a 6-speed along with Headers, Downpipe and Axleback Mufflers installed...

 

Thanks for pointing that out Leprechaun.....I was just going to say that....anyways, what is the "downpipe" Comptech is talking about, is it part of the headers?

 

I think a CT Ice Box for the CL-S is just a myth... Those pics of it last month on the S/C 6-spd are fake!

 

Does it suck for a CLS 6 speed with CT ICE box, CT headers, CT Exhaust to dyno a max... of 234 WHP and 216 lbft of torque?

Just asking

 

I think you're right, it is stock. If you get the SC, then you get the icebox, i'll miss my AEM growl though.

 

I agree I'm getting my new CAI six-speed from AEM

 

i agree

sidemarker

 

And while your cars are making noise, you won't even hear me pull away from you. :P

A sleeper man and lovin' it.

Ruf

 

I like that

 

There's threads everwhere! Agh!:
http://www.acura-cl.com/forums/showthread
http://www.comptechusa.com/cgi-bin/forum/
Someone asking for clarification:
http://www.comptechusa.com/cgi-bin/forum/

 

damn confusing, they should do

1) stock,
2) + ice,
3) AND ice + H/E

 

Yep...

And the temps that they are testing at wouldn't hurt.

Their dyno is not a Dynojet, so it's going to "react" to inertial and other losses that impact flywheel to “wheel” HP readings differently.

Also -- who knows if they are "averaging" and/or using a car with light wheels and/or lighter tires.

You do know that AEM, for one, averages the hell out of their graphs.

Finally, creative positioning of large AC cooling fans in the room can produce dramatic differences in ambient vs. under hood (pre-CAI) intake air temperatures.

Before anyone thinks this is some more bashing – please stop. Everyone is going to perform tests differently and there are no standards that I’m aware of for “testing.”

 

Testing at 32 or below = ICE

 

I asked Mike B. on the Comptech forums about the issues with labeling on the graphs, and which car was actually used... He said the car WAS with Comptech Headers, and Comptech Exhaust (for both torque/HP).


And he said:

 

Once you put on the S/C, it doesn't matter which CAI you have, since the S/C will stop the growl, period. You pick up a sweet ass whine instead....