jimcol711

Looks like you can get a set of brand new Comptech headers for $900...is this a sign of a coming price drop? $900 is still a total rip off but hey, its a start...maybe they will finally come down to their appropriate price range.


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=1864773616

TypeSKid

THIS TOPIC WILL NEVER DIE


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jimcol711

CORRECTION:


this topic will die when Comptech charges a fair and competitive amount for its headers

TypeSKid

LOL!


Damn, I don't know if that will EVER happen.


I got my comptech headers slightly used, and only paid $500, so I really can't complain.

DeansblackCLS

Those are from an end user who purchased them and decided not to install them, now he is selling them.

http://www.acura-cl.com/forums/showt...threadid=81969

Comptech is NOT lowering the price of their headers. As I stated before, Comptech prices their product based on what it costs to build, not what the market will "bear".

Dean

Red Rider

Jesus Christ, some of you guys just don't get it. Remember when DVD players were $999 and now you can get one for $79, or a computer went for $1999 that's $599 now. Someone had to design and build the early models and recoup the cost. Comptech was the only company providing Headers for our cars for over 2 years, did you expect them to give them away.

JRock

That's a practical theory when you supply a unique part, but it's a great way to go out of business when the market contains other brands of the same item for incredibly lower prices.

Economics dictates the price should come down quite a bit, especially since they made an impressive profit off of their headers over the past two years, so it's not like it would hurt their pockets to take a little less profit on them in order to be competitive and maintain sales.

Their product is superior but not $600-800 superior.

A price of around $750 would be an effective MSRP. With the $350 price difference (assuming the OBX retail is $400) you get your superior welds and superior quality SS. If OBX retail is $500, $850 is right for the Comptechs.

Those long-tube equal-length headers that other company is putting our (hopefully) soon are justified for at least $850-950 because they are brand new, a unique product, show off better low end gains, and are a much more massive product in general (much more SS needed to make them).

Red Rider

I haven't seen BMW going out of business

jimcol711

the inherent problem with your analogy is this:

once DVD players became cheaper to manufacture and more competition arose, EVERY manufacturer, INCLUDING the ones that developed the technology and so forth, they ALL dropped their prices significantly....its not like there is one brand out there (ahem comptech ahem) that is still charging an arm and a leg for the same DVD player you can get from another manufacturer for a fraction of the cost, not only that, but even the HIGHEST quality DVD players have come down in price along with the low-end entry level DVD players....so as you can see, this is the nature of economics, sure, comptech had the upper hand, spent their time and money developing the headers, etc, but now the market has opened up and in spite of the fact that comptech may have a good reputation, that doesnt nessecitate their high price. think of it this way, all things being equal between 2 HIGH END DVD players, im talking progressive scan, component inputs, digital outputs, etc...if you have 2 of these DVD players that have identical features, now lets say one of these DVD players is manufactured by the company that developed the DVD technology as a whole, and they charge 500 bucks and the other DVD player is a comperable manufacturer, but one that merely repackaged basically existing products in their own right and with their own namesake, now lets say these DVD players sell for 150...what the fuck are you going to buy??? no moron would spend the 500 bucks for an equal product, and who cares who spent the money developing the stuff, i mean hell, mad props for Comptech for coming out with the headers 2 years ago and using wonderful materials and welders, but shit, the days of their monopoly on the honda V6 headers are over, and prices will come down...maybe not right now, but they will, i mean Comptech must know that they already lost probably 500 sales of these headers nationwide so far due to the OBX....and i know there are another 500 people at least that may want headers, would rather have comptech but cant afford 1000...so they go with OBX...now if comptech came down to about 500-600...then you are looking at a competitive price because no one can deny the superior quality of the comptechs, im sure alot of people, myself included, would rather pay 500 for new comptechs than 340 for new OBX...but until comptech realizes that its losing sales left and right, nothing will change. not to mention that as time goes on, surely OBX will develop "the bend" for the 6 speed cars, thereby taking up MORE of comptechs market share, etc. Comptech needs to think about this:


what is more valuable:

500 sets of Comptech headers that are rotting on their shelves and cant be sold due to their price

OR

500 sets of Comptech headers being SOLD at 500-600 bucks instead of 1000...sure, they a decent chunk of their current profit, but for gods sakes, 500 bucks per set is SURELY better than 0.00 per set while they sit and collect dust in the warehouse...

Dom418

this is making my head hurt

JRock

No one else sells cars identical or close to theirs now do they.
Plus they have a brand name built up.

Nitin

iTrader: (1)

Who the hell even cares what Comptech charges for their headers? If you like the price, buy them. If not, then don't buy them. It's as simple as that. Damn, I can't believe how stupid some of these arguments are getting to be. What's next? Burger King should sell their Whopper for 99 cents since McDonald's sells their Big Mac's for 99 cents?

erock

McDonald's sells Big Mac's for $.99..... Not on my side of the country they don't..... the bastards....... then again, I rarely eat Big Mac's anyways...:P (Hot & Spicy Chicken sandwiches are the bomb)

Scrib

Love these analogies...

moomaster_99

blah blah blah......fact is, I've been getting my '$1100' worth for about 2 years now....i actually only paid $890 brand new...and you know what.....so, i would have been kicking your ass for 2 years....there end of story. Flip side...OBX price is not easily beat....but then again in CALIFORNIA....CARB is a necessity. And if you think you are getting an incredible deal on your headers...ask the guy how much he is buying them for....I know.

GreenMonster

I like Big Macs

NighthawkBlack

Hey don't bring my sale of my own headers into your forum arguments. :P I put it up on ebay for less than what I paid to get custom headers made and the whole downpipe and cat so I needed the money. Lets not even talk about cost

sidemarker

NOPE

still 1249.00 on the website

http://solar.innercite.com/comptech/header4.html

sidemarker

2FamoUs

If you get these parts str8 from Comptech... it still costs $1249.

http://www.acura-cl.com/forums/showt...5&pagenumber=2

2FamoUs

http://solar.innercite.com/comptech/header4.html oops. lol

KavexTrax

Go back to trading bonds :P

dhlesq

:whocares:

Just buy whatever the hell headers meet your needs.

Then sit back and watch where the market goes.

I don't give a rats-a$$ where these companies price their goods. On any given day, if their product/price meets my needs, I'll make a purchase.

lou_RENAMED

I just hope this would open the eyes of Greddy. I always liked their products and I can't wait for them to make headers for us but not if it cost more than $600.

AcuraTLSFan

I have to agree with JIMCOL711 on this comparsion, logical and reasonable arguements!!

Nitin, it's not as simple as that! Nothing is as simple as that. When you look at performance, you look at Power to Weight Ratio...when you are looking to buy somthing you look at Price/Quality Ratio. We just want spend a reasonable amount of our HARD Working $$$ on a product. would you buy $3.00/roll soft toliet paper or .99/roll for the generic toliet paper? If you want a more direct comparsion...Take CT lowering springs which go for around $275, H&R and Eibach has theirs for $175. Both CT and HR has to do their R&D, testing etc. but why can H&R and Eibach sell quality springs for $100 cheaper then CT?

I also have to agree with moomaster_99, it might be worth it to him becuase he has been using them for 2 years...but if you're gonna buy it now...the Logical and Reasonable thing to do is go with OBX. Moomaster_99 if you had to buy headers now...which one would you go with?

Now CT has competition....OBX might be of a lesser quaility *assumption made be most of u* but also cost a lot less. So what you gonna do? By a Whopper for $3.00 or by a MC Big&Tasty for .99? They are basically the same burger, but sold under a differen't label.

Roell

Here is a different view of things. There are some good reasons why comptech would be better served charging a higher price. One, R & D might be higher -- they could be developing other products for our car as we speak. Two, with the higher price comes (in most cases) better customer service. Third, they will most likely be in business longer so if we have any warrent issues, we actually have a compnay that exists to call.

I don't care if your are talking cars, stereo, houses, boats, whatever, 99% you get what you pay for.


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