Complexity of the auto transmission Vs. the new 6-speed ??
Complexity of the auto transmission Vs. the new 6-speed ??
I've heard more than once people say they are going to jump to the 6-speed because they are worried about their current automatic transmission failing. Isn't there a concern that the 6 Speed transmission is so new that it too could have bugs. The current 5 speed auto has been out 3 years right? 3 years including the 2000 TL's.
Or are manual transmissions that much more simple that failure isn't as likely?
Although, the only problems I've heard with 6 speeds in other cars is over revving and killing the transmission, but that is entirely user error at that point. The S2000, Celica GT-S and RSX have had their fill of people over revving and blowing it. . .
I guess I'm trying to say: Aren't you worried that since the 6 speed is so new it will have problems also? Just wondering. . .
Or are manual transmissions that much more simple that failure isn't as likely?
Although, the only problems I've heard with 6 speeds in other cars is over revving and killing the transmission, but that is entirely user error at that point. The S2000, Celica GT-S and RSX have had their fill of people over revving and blowing it. . .
I guess I'm trying to say: Aren't you worried that since the 6 speed is so new it will have problems also? Just wondering. . .
Yeah, that is a concern. But Honda has a lot of experience with manuals and their manuals are very good. I think manuals are simpler than autos to begin with. The clutch and the syncros will eventually go, but that's about it.
A look at a manual will convince most people that it is a simpler design than a "conventional automatic" (slush-box). Now, add it the electronic control stuff – OUCH!
I can look over a manual diagram and pictures and "get it" in about 1/2 hour.
The Helms stuff with all of the fluid system control stuff, etc is quite a long read....
I welcome the coming of manual-sequential gearboxes.
See the January Road and Track with the article on the 2002 BMW M3's SMG II (sequential manual gearbox).
It only weighs a bit more than the manual -- the bulk of the improvement concen:
1. Automatic clutch operation (hydraulics)
2. Addition of electronic control of throttle (BMW, 2002 Maxima, others)
3. Hydraulic actuators for shift forks, etc.
4. Some acceleration sensors etc (we already have some of them).
There is also an excellent publication from the SAE on Formula 1 technology...
I can look over a manual diagram and pictures and "get it" in about 1/2 hour.
The Helms stuff with all of the fluid system control stuff, etc is quite a long read....
I welcome the coming of manual-sequential gearboxes.
See the January Road and Track with the article on the 2002 BMW M3's SMG II (sequential manual gearbox).
It only weighs a bit more than the manual -- the bulk of the improvement concen:
1. Automatic clutch operation (hydraulics)
2. Addition of electronic control of throttle (BMW, 2002 Maxima, others)
3. Hydraulic actuators for shift forks, etc.
4. Some acceleration sensors etc (we already have some of them).
There is also an excellent publication from the SAE on Formula 1 technology...
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