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Old Nov 25, 2003 | 05:07 PM
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clutch is slipping already!!!

Hey guys i was wondering if anyone new about any good clutch packages out for a type S 6-spd NOT THE COMPTECH ONE because mine is starting to slip, at first it would only slip when i hit third gear hard after driving hard for a while, now it slips into 3rd every time at redline but i can still get a 2nd gear 10ft marks!! I was wondering how much longer this clutch has and will just start slipping a little bit more each time or will it just go out and leave me stranded somewhere??

would a clutch from another honda/acura work ex. accord lengend, nsx I know ACT makes clutches but nothing for us.

I need a stonger clutch!!

this is all after 22K miles
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Old Nov 25, 2003 | 05:33 PM
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Your Comptech clutch is slipping with that little mileage???

Lord man... Do you beat on your car?

Not to sound rude, but that shouldn't happen that soon...
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Old Nov 25, 2003 | 05:51 PM
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no, i don't have the comptech clutch, (that was bad wording) i was wondering if there were any other clutches out besides comptech, because the comptech clutch does not have any better clamping force, I wan't a clutch that i can beat on hard and will stand up well at the track(been down the 1/4 over 100times) and hard daily driving something like a RACE CLUTCH

THANKS,
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Old Nov 25, 2003 | 06:02 PM
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i have the comptech clutch and its tough as nails ive had it for 10,000 miles now and feels like day one!!!! and i have the blower and headers,bpipe,exhaust,ported throttle body and it handles all that power
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Old Nov 25, 2003 | 06:07 PM
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Lord man... Do you beat on your car?

Not to sound rude, but that shouldn't happen that soon...

hmmm.......

Stock clutch should last 60k+
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Old Nov 25, 2003 | 06:31 PM
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Originally posted by SiGGy
hmmm.......

Stock clutch should last 60k+
true, and the auto tranny should be good for 150k . i'm getting the feeling that transmissions are not american honda's forte.
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Old Nov 25, 2003 | 06:42 PM
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true, and the auto tranny should be good for 150k . i'm getting the feeling that transmissions are not american honda's forte.
Transmission made in Japan...

I guess the 6MT has been out long enough now that we'll start seeing some of the more abusive drivers start slippin' away.

My experience with Honda/Acura MT is that they are near bullet-proof and stock clutches last over 100K miles. I don't expect any different from the CL.

AFAIK, the only clutch options are the OEM and the Comptech clutch/flyweel. My concern about the Comptech one is the possibility of increased NVH because of loss of dual-mass flywheel, but none of the folks here that have had it installed have reported that to be an issue. It seems to be a good product if installed correctly.

IIRC, the OEM clutch is about $700 part (someone posted here that they had to pay for a replacement), and the Comptech clutch/flywheel lists at $1149 -- I'm sure can be obtained for cheaper. For my checkbook, on a part that should last many years, the difference in price is negligible.
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Old Nov 25, 2003 | 06:55 PM
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Actually, I'm wrong about part cost. It's a bit less then a I remembered. I just looked it up on http://www.acuraautomotiveparts.org

Part 3 FLYWHEEL List $412.13 Sells at $316.52
Part 9 CLUTCH SET List $288.60 Sells at $221.67
Part 1 DISK, FRICTION List $122.32 Sells at $93.96

I'd still seriously consider the lightened Comptech version if the reports here continue to show that it's durable and does not produce increased NVH.
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Old Nov 25, 2003 | 06:56 PM
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Originally posted by Slimey
Transmission made in Japan...

I guess the 6MT has been out long enough now that we'll start seeing some of the more abusive drivers start slippin' away.
i remember when people here blamed the drivers for the first failures of the 5at...not saying this is the same situation, but this isn't the first clutch on a 6mt i've seen bite it...jury is out as far as i'm concerned.
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Old Nov 25, 2003 | 07:06 PM
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I'll accept that the 'jury is out' on this one, but I'm not sure how the 6MT can be equated to the 5AT. Although they have the same job of transferring the engines power to the wheels, they are not equivalent devices. Manual transmissions by their very nature are a bit more bulletproof.

And don't forget, the clutch is a wearable part, just like a brake pad or a tire. Some people will always wear these out faster then others.

I think only two failures here (I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong) were so early that abuse was probably not an issue. Every other premature wear issue was followed with a story about clutch dumping or racing, known activities that will wear a clutch faster then 'regular' street driving.

And I'll say it again -- the clutch is a wearable part, just like a brake pad or a tire. Some people will always wear these out faster then others. It's really not that big of a deal and should not be equated with catastrophic transmission failure.
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Old Nov 25, 2003 | 07:10 PM
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yeah, but do you think the clutch is a wearable part?















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Old Nov 25, 2003 | 07:16 PM
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Old Nov 25, 2003 | 08:20 PM
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ok maybe i was wrong to be suspicious; here's an 03' 6 spd with 200,000 miles on it

http://www.westchesteracura.com/inve...vpr&make=Acura
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Old Nov 25, 2003 | 08:25 PM
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Clutch shouldn't slip within 20K miles... abuse or not. The Comptech unit uses the stock pressure-plate... so the 'wear' with similar driving is the same as a stock clutch. The material probably causes the clutch to 'bite' a little more... but that's it. The majority of the Comptech performance gains (hence the price) is from the flywheel. I have had a lot of trouble with this unit in the past... but it has always pointed towards install. This time I KNOW it was installed correctly... so we'll just have to wait and see about reliability.

There are NO aftermarket clutches available - if somebody re-designed the pressure-plate, I'd be very weary of it. It is possible that a clutch made for the new Accord will fit.
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Old Nov 26, 2003 | 05:41 AM
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The clutch in my Legend coupe lasted for 120k miles, and I was a little abusive in that I would ride it with my foot sometimes.
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Old Nov 26, 2003 | 05:49 AM
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Originally posted by Scrib
Lord man... Do you beat on your car?
Originally posted by SLY1TYPES
but i can still get a 2nd gear 10ft marks!!
The defense rests

I think that some people are a little tougher on the wearable parts then others. For example: I have a tendency to downshift hard into second for corners, which I know is not good for the longevity of the clutch. Because of that I won't be suprised if the clutch on my 6spd will need replacement earlier then on other peoples 6spds.

YMMV, actual figures depend on driving style, etc. etc.

SLY1TYPES: you might want to ease up a little when you get a new clutch.
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Old Nov 26, 2003 | 05:52 AM
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My original clutch in my 91 Legend Coupe was still working great when I sold the car with 110,000 miles.
I hope to see 100K in this car.

A question for the original poster: SLY1TYPES
Your profile says that you’re 24-years old.
What is your background with driving stick and how hard are you on the car?
Besides what you admitted to in this thread that is.

Shawn S
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Old Nov 26, 2003 | 06:52 AM
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I'm hard on my car. I don't downshift alot, or track it. I do alot of high speed, high rpm runs. I also tend to slam the clutch & the shifter thanks to all the past sticks I had which were all trucks. This is my first stick car. I have almost 14K miles with no sign of a problem.
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Old Nov 26, 2003 | 07:11 AM
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Originally posted by Shawn S

A question for the original poster: SLY1TYPES
Your profile says that you’re 24-years old.
What is your background with driving stick and how hard are you on the car?
Besides what you admitted to in this thread that is.

Shawn S
I admitt i do drive my car pretty hard, but i do know how to drive a stick very well, this is not my first, I usally don't get on it to much from a stop because i am still on stock tires, but once the clutch is all the way out I will floor it and break loose the tires all the way through first gear sometimes, and I do 20-100 runs and quite a few downshifts. But not every time I have been to the track about 5 times, BUT I DO KNOW HOW TO HIT THE GEARS.

But isn't the only time the clutch is really abused is when it starts to smell because of excessive heat????????????????
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Old Nov 26, 2003 | 04:12 PM
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I'll accept that the 'jury is out' on this one, but I'm not sure how the 6MT can be equated to the 5AT. Although they have the same job of transferring the engines power to the wheels, they are not equivalent devices. Manual transmissions by their very nature are a bit more bulletproof.

And don't forget, the clutch is a wearable part, just like a brake pad or a tire. Some people will always wear these out faster then others.

I think only two failures here (I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong) were so early that abuse was probably not an issue. Every other premature wear issue was followed with a story about clutch dumping or racing, known activities that will wear a clutch faster then 'regular' street driving.

And I'll say it again -- the clutch is a wearable part, just like a brake pad or a tire. Some people will always wear these out faster then others. It's really not that big of a deal and should not be equated with catastrophic transmission failure.

At least the clutch in the manual is easier to get to...

There are just a lot MORE wearable parts (clutches) in our slush box (More than one clutch disk per gear and about 1 clutch pack per gear.) Too bad they are so hard to get to, and Acura had brain damage when it came to designing the filtering system.

There was someone earlier that "complained" about the clutch being "crummy" and not robust enough (someone managed to get it to slip pretty early on). I only remember seeing one other report -- and that was in the transmission problems forum.

With only two reports (or multiply by a small number of your choice), there could be a production flaw, abuse issue, or any number of problems that can kill a few. Compared to the automatic transmission reports, the number is very, very small.

The DSG (Direct Shift Gearbox) should be much more robust and maintainable automatic with a twin multi-plate clutch (in lieu of a bunch of clutch packs buried inside of bunch of gears) ( )

YMMV
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Old Nov 26, 2003 | 05:10 PM
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Originally posted by EricL
, abuse issue

you hit the nail on the head Eric!!!..
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Old Nov 26, 2003 | 05:22 PM
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Originally posted by SLY1TYPES
... because i am still on stock tires, but once the clutch is all the way out I will floor it and break loose the tires all the way through first gear sometimes...
If you're running stock tires, there's even less chance of burning up the clutch if driven properly - harder to load up the clutch because the tires will break loose. The stock clutch is sufficient to hold the HP once engaged.

You either have a bad clutch or do a lot of shifts where RPM of Flywheel and Pressure plate are dissimilar and held in that state for a longer than normal time (riding the clutch).
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Old Nov 26, 2003 | 08:19 PM
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Re: clutch is slipping already!!!

Originally posted by SLY1TYPES
Hey guys i was wondering if anyone new about any good clutch packages out for a type S 6-spd NOT THE COMPTECH ONE because mine is starting to slip, at first it would only slip when i hit third gear hard after driving hard for a while, now it slips into 3rd every time at redline but i can still get a 2nd gear 10ft marks!! I was wondering how much longer this clutch has and will just start slipping a little bit more each time or will it just go out and leave me stranded somewhere??

would a clutch from another honda/acura work ex. accord lengend, nsx I know ACT makes clutches but nothing for us.

I need a stonger clutch!!

this is all after 22K miles

hey Iam replacing my Clutch with Comptech Lightweight flywheel and CT clutch, I have 10k miles on my OEM clutch , make me an offer.........
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Old Nov 27, 2003 | 12:21 AM
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I think i will probley upgrade to the comptech clutch when mine finally goes out, But i don't ride my clutch (slipping it) if it went because abuse i think it was because of shifting very quick and hard, and i do know how to shift well, but I will have to see what the dealers says when my clutch finally goes!! but i am expecting i will have to pay for it all!
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Old Nov 27, 2003 | 06:10 AM
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remember to get your flywheel resurfaced or get a new one cause you almost definatley got hot spots on it. if you dont it will crack and cause a mess. good luck
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Old Nov 27, 2003 | 04:53 PM
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Re: Re: clutch is slipping already!!!

Originally posted by Essarak Huot
hey Iam replacing my Clutch with Comptech Lightweight flywheel and CT clutch, I have 10k miles on my OEM clutch , make me an offer.........
Remember that the only parts you can sell are the stock flywheel and stock clutch disk. You will be re-using the stock pressure-plate.

A NEW clutch disk AND pressure-plate is $217, so I don't really recommend screwing around with the clutch on this car and putting in old parts! (especially when you are paying $600 on labor!)
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