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Old Mar 25, 2009 | 07:31 AM
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So I was bored yesterday and decided to do my Cluster with Blue leds. I have finished my climate control, Radio, shifter, window switches, cruise control and blinkers all in blue leds.

So I thought now the easy part, the gauges but I inslalled all the Leds in the stock position and low a behold I cant see Sh*#. so for any one who has already done this (and a know there is at least 1) how did you get it bright?????
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Old Mar 25, 2009 | 08:10 AM
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just add a few LEDs to fill in the dark spots. LEDs do not put out a wide enough light spread to only fill the stock locations. i would like to try some ccfl to just wrap around inside the cluster. it would make for a much cleaner install and then you can abandon the stock light locations.
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Old Mar 25, 2009 | 08:30 AM
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^ :wow: How much will you charge to do mine? lol
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Old Mar 25, 2009 | 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by distortedolskool
just add a few LEDs to fill in the dark spots. LEDs do not put out a wide enough light spread to only fill the stock locations. i would like to try some ccfl to just wrap around inside the cluster. it would make for a much cleaner install and then you can abandon the stock light locations.
Add a couple more LOL

I was actaully thinking CCFL I think thats what im going to do but the speedometer is going to be hard because you cant put a full circle in it but ill try give me month

oh can I see yours when its lite up
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some of my LEDs have started to change colors. i would like to find a better way with LED strips or something. this way works but it just takes time to solder each LED/resistor/wire connection and then hot glue in place.
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Old Mar 25, 2009 | 02:00 PM
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What colour Leds did you use

Because as you can see I can get ccfls but if you have ever seen them the blue is not as deep as my leds in my Radio etc
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Old Mar 25, 2009 | 02:41 PM
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WOW, i wud be scared to do that to my Ac, unless i had another donor sitting there just in case.
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Old Mar 25, 2009 | 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by MrFluffy
What colour Leds did you use

Because as you can see I can get ccfls but if you have ever seen them the blue is not as deep as my leds in my Radio etc
pure white though some have a bluish hue now.
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Old Mar 25, 2009 | 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by distortedolskool
just add a few LEDs to fill in the dark spots. LEDs do not put out a wide enough light spread to only fill the stock locations. i would like to try some ccfl to just wrap around inside the cluster. it would make for a much cleaner install and then you can abandon the stock light locations.

I did this with my climate control, came out reall nice
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Old Mar 25, 2009 | 05:03 PM
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WOW, i wud be scared to do that to my Ac, unless i had another donor sitting there just in case.
Same here
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Old Mar 25, 2009 | 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by distortedolskool
pure white though some have a bluish hue now.
Have the direct replacement LEDs been treating you well (that may be the source of the blue hues)? I'm getting ready to completely redo my cluster w/o the use of direct replacement bulbs, as they keep dying. Going to try and get it all together w/o having to externally connect the additional LEDs outside of the cluster, and limit the voltage and current running to the LEDs prior to the resistors in order to stop the bulbs/resistors from burning out. The Texas heat doesn't help things either, so finding all the components that'll stand up to 130+F deg heat will be a challenge.
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Old Mar 25, 2009 | 11:00 PM
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Have the direct replacement LEDs been treating you well (that may be the source of the blue hues)? I'm getting ready to completely redo my cluster w/o the use of direct replacement bulbs, as they keep dying. Going to try and get it all together w/o having to externally connect the additional LEDs outside of the cluster, and limit the voltage and current running to the LEDs prior to the resistors in order to stop the bulbs/resistors from burning out. The Texas heat doesn't help things either, so finding all the components that'll stand up to 130+F deg heat will be a challenge.
haven't had the chance to look. i would like to eliminate them with the use of some flexible led strips but i believe they are to thick.

BTW you know there is a meet in austin this saturday.
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Old Mar 26, 2009 | 02:28 AM
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A while back I bought another cluster to do this project...because I was afraid of fawking everything up.

It's just sitting here until I find figure out how to do it...
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Old Mar 26, 2009 | 07:18 AM
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I believe that in the near future...me and a member here from Tampa bay area (oneself) are going to try and tackle our together in a day! But im skeered! LOL
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Old Mar 26, 2009 | 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by TOPHER33884
I believe that in the near future...me and a member here from Tampa bay area (oneself) are going to try and tackle our together in a day! But im skeered! LOL

when you do this (in the near future) please let me know. because I'll drive down there and do my cluster with you guys. been meaning to do something like this.
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Originally Posted by distortedolskool
haven't had the chance to look. i would like to eliminate them with the use of some flexible led strips but i believe they are to thick.
...and not to mention they're probably not bright enough/flexible enough...

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BTW you know there is a meet in austin this saturday.
I'd be there if I weren't moving to Houston. Take PICS!
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Old Mar 26, 2009 | 09:34 AM
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when you do this (in the near future) please let me know. because I'll drive down there and do my cluster with you guys. been meaning to do something like this.
Oh yeah...that'll be awesome! I am guessing that 6 hands and three brains could do this better then 2 & 1!
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Old Mar 26, 2009 | 12:12 PM
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Im going to order some CCFL In a week or two and see how that works out ( If this works its goin to be so easy I bet all the 2g CLers will be doing it)

Il take pics if I can find my camera>
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Originally Posted by gaping46and2
Have the direct replacement LEDs been treating you well (that may be the source of the blue hues)? I'm getting ready to completely redo my cluster w/o the use of direct replacement bulbs, as they keep dying. Going to try and get it all together w/o having to externally connect the additional LEDs outside of the cluster, and limit the voltage and current running to the LEDs prior to the resistors in order to stop the bulbs/resistors from burning out. The Texas heat doesn't help things either, so finding all the components that'll stand up to 130+F deg heat will be a challenge.
You're back!!! :gheyhug: you been ok man?
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You're back!!! :gheyhug: you been ok man?
I never left...just been a little incognito, I guess . Doing fine...moving to Houston, so that's been taking up a lot of time.
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^^^ did u make that rhyme on purpose?
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what bulb size is in those clusters...and how many (without adding extras)..i plan to do them red so it should be pretty bright..anyone have all red w/ pics?
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Old Apr 9, 2009 | 03:02 AM
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I've wanted to do this for so damn long! Scared as hell to try and tackle it! Wish someone was close i'd gladly pay for the work! A solid write-up if you can get those flexible leds to fit will def push me over the edge to do it!
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anyone have all red w/ pics?
Courtesy of civicdrivr

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Old Apr 9, 2009 | 08:28 AM
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I like the red better than the blue
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Old Apr 9, 2009 | 09:50 AM
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The red is more "Euro-Style"..which I prefer, easier on the eyes
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who had the "how to" for the red led's
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Old Apr 9, 2009 | 10:18 AM
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^No idea but I've been running searches all morning..lol

If I find it before you I'll PM ya
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Old Apr 9, 2009 | 10:22 AM
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I don't think you can have hot spots with the red ... only the blue/white led's
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anyone know the bulb size ...is it 194, if so how many? also, will i have to remove the stuff on the faces which might change the color of the light (if using red)? thx
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From what I have heard, there is a "Filter" attached to the back of the guages. Remove them, and you will get a much more true color.
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I don't think you can have hot spots with the red ... only the blue/white led's
you have have hot spots with any color of light. a hot spot is just one location where the light shines direct and the dimmer spots are the indirect light. you will have hot spots in the locations of the sock bulbs, while the rest of the numbers take the indirect light and appear dimmer.

and that filter is a film that is applied to the backs of the gauges. it must be removed with acetone (fingernail polish remover).

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^ Thanks bro, I was waiting for you to chime in on the filter thing.
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Originally Posted by distortedolskool
you have have hot spots with any color of light. a hot spot is just one location where the light shines direct and the dimmer spots are the indirect light. you will have hot spots in the locations of the sock bulbs, while the rest of the numbers take the indirect light and appear dimmer.

and that filter is a film that is applied to the backs of the gauges. it must be removed with acetone (fingernail polish remover).
i would think red is much harder to notice...
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^ not really.....its like putting a light about 3" behind a piece of paper. you will have one hot spot and the rest is reflective light, doesn't matter what the color is....light is still light
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removal of the film.


be careful bending everything.


hot spot lesson.
see the location of the plug and play bulbs.


now look at the hot spots.....same location as the bulbs.
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Originally Posted by nf3d0149ab
Courtesy of civicdrivr

^^that one turned out real nice...i wonder what he did... and i still couldnt locate the bulb size for the dash! no one knows?
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