Joe5.0

Yesterday on my way to work I was just cruising down the expressway when I see a very nice & clean 5 series. He was driving a little aggressive so i started to also. When it opened up he switched lanes and gunned it. I was ready and already in 4th (going about 80mph). I was about a car length or so ahead when we started, and by the time we shut it down (about 120mph) he had gained maybe a 1/2 car length or so.

Definitely a good race, and if we continued further he prob would have pulled pretty decent once I had to shift into 5th.

Not bad for a 6 speed with only a CT Icebox and heavy 19's.


And yes if we were side by side i would have shifted into 3rd instead of 4th, but i didnt want to have to shift and I didnt want to sit at 6k rpm until he got right next to me.

Mike

good run joe! surprised the v8 didn't pull on you more after 100+

Joe5.0

Me too, but like I said he was inching. plus 90% of them are automatics, so that wasnt in his favor. They make 290hp, unlike the new ones which are like 350+HP.

It was debadged, so I'm not 100% sure it was a 540i, but I would think I would romp on a 530 or 528, and we all know what a M5 would do.

SatinSilverAV6

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Nice race man. Those 540i have some balls. I believe 282HP and 325TQ!

2003lsv8

It was not a 540i trust me, you can get the premium 540 package on the 525, 528, 530 modles to make them look like 540's

Joe5.0

Ummmm why couldnt it have been?

The 6 speeds run low 14's, and the auto's slower than that.

Look at my sig, no reason my car wouldnt be a good race with one.

http://www.bmw540ifun.com/Dynos&QtrMile.htm

SatinSilverAV6

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I believe it was. No 525i, 528i, 530i is pulling on a CL-S especially the 6spd. Period end of subject! Like Joe5.0 said they run low 14's in 6spd form with incredible high end power. Ive seen them run 14.0@99MPH stock before so I know its possible. Joe is in the high 13's!!

Joe5.0

Like I said, most likely it was an automatic anyways.

2003lsv8

In a 1/4 yeah, but already moving at highway speeds is a different story. I don't doubt your time for a moment and yes your right. I have just seen wilder outcomes from them as the speeds increase. Good job either way

Joe5.0

I'm very sure if we would have continued he would have really started pulling on me. I was RIGHT at the end of 4th, so if I would have gone into 5th he would have walked away.

I looked up the gearing of the auto, and I can see why he didnt really pull. At 80mph his car would have downshifted into 3rd, at just about 5k rpm. At about 100mph it would have shifted into 4th, which is a very tall gear. He would have been at about 4100 rpm in 4th, and 4th doesnt run out till like 145mph. At 120mph he had only gone from 4100 to 4900 rpm. I was able to start in 4th at about 4700rpm and run it out in VTEC the entire time till 120mph.

Now again, this is assuming it was an auto, which it appeared to be.

lil_turbo4

I agree with you! Had to have been a different model, because you have been with me and saw for yourself first hand when I raced that 540i on the highway. He was walking away from me!

lil_turbo4

Oh yeah, by the way your sig! I can't buy that, because you ran a 13.9 in the 1/4mile with a trap speed for 98mph! That doesn't add up! I ran a 14.7 stock with a trap speed of 97mph! If your running a 13.9, your trap speed should be a little higher then mine! That really doesn't make sense to me!

Also, do you just have an intake or do you have more? Cause if you just have an intake you shouldn't be breaking 14's at all! You should be in the low 14's though!

Joe5.0

Glad you know what I 'should' run, and that my time is impossible. Do some research, I'm tired of defending my time to everyone that doesnt know how to drive.

SuperTrooper169

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I'm sure it was a 540i. I raced a 528i from a dig and completely walked away from him and I was an 03 auto with I/h, so it makes sense that Joe held off a 540i for a gear. There's now way a 528i or 530i would've been able to even hang a little on a CL-S6.

SuperTrooper169

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BTW, here are the mag #'s on the 540s. Yeah, they're fast, but obviously Joe knows how to drive and has a fast nearly stock 6 speed.

1997 BMW 540i 6.2 14.6
1998 BMW 540i Sport 5.5 14.0
2001 BMW 540i (Automatic) 5.7 14.3
2001 BMW 540i 6-Speed 5.5 14.0

lil_turbo4

Nobody is talking about from a dig, we are talking about Highway speeds! So you can say what you want! Oh yeah, I drive a six speed as well! And I can drive pretty damn good myself! That guy must have not been hitting it like that, cause I have raced two of them and they had me by 3 to 4 car lengths! I know we can smash the 528i and the 530i. I have raced them as well!

lil_turbo4

Do my research? Hmmmmm.... I have done research, but you don't even need to do that in this case cause if im running a 14.7 @97mph, and your running 13.9@ 98mph! Something just doesn't seem right! Ill do you one better, since im about to get my intake, I'll go to the track and get a time! Also whats funny about that time and speed, is when my boy with a six speed as well with i/h/e, ran at the track, he ran a 13.7@106mph! So how is it he ran two tenths of a sec. faster then you and has a higher trap speed then you? Thats common sense! But you go head with your 13.9@98mph with just an intake and 19" rims!

NightRider

The thing that kills our car at the track is launch, which I thought everyone knew? Although it may be hard to BETTER a 13.9 (which it could have even been a 13.99 for all we know, Joe care to elaborate?) with a CLS6 w/ intake, it isn't out of the question for a good launch to save a couple 10ths of a second. My 6MT Legend II coupe (230HP) killed a couple faster cars, including a Z28 Camaro, off the line with a great launch.

Joe5.0

When I said do your research I meant into my times. I guess I'll explain for the hundredth time.

60' ------- 2.105
1/8 ET----- 9.122
1/8 MPH---- 76.55
1/4ET ----- 13.928
1/4MPH ---- 97.33


My mod list for my 13.9 @ 97.3 (i have 13.9 @ 98 in my sig because I also ran a 13.97 @ 98.5 with a slightly slower 60')

- BFG 225/45/17 drag radials
- 17x7" Centerline Storms (~14lbs/piece) up front only, 19's out back
- Comptech CAI
- H&R Sport Springs & Tokico Illumina shocks set at full stiff
- Removed passenger seat
- 1/2 tank of gas

Now my car is definitely NOT going to run 13's right now, it'd be lucky to run 14.5's with the heavy 19's. But btw I ran 14.5 @ 96.5mph BONE STOCK, so your 14.7 @ 97 is still kinda on the slow side.

And what kinda car is your friends, cuz he's not running 13.7 @ 106mph without a power adder in a CLS6.

And just to fuel the BMW loving in this thread, my Cobra (when it was N/A) outlaunched and slightyl pulled on a E39 M5, and my Cobra when N/A was only a 13.3 @ 105mph car. Figure that.

Joe5.0

And it had halo's, and I think they got them in like 2001?

2003lsv8

Well there it is Drag Radials, Seat out and lighter Rims (14lbs right) ok I see your 13.9 now but I am sure your seat was not out (Drag Radial don't count for sh!t at highway speeds) Plus I figure that you was not running on 17's all the way around. So yes that 540 should have murdered you at highway speeds. So you don't have a 13.9sec car at all times more like a 14.3-14.5 90% of the time unless your at the track where you take out seats and run staggered wheels with the DR's up front. Now once questioned look how the post turns into I held him off for a gear!!!!! u don't get points for that especially since u already was a car length ahead. WORTHLESS POST

Joe5.0

Jesus christ, go away. I'm not lying nor trying to make the "race" anything it wasnt. You really need to start comprehending what it is I'm typing.

EL19

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my TLS ran a 14.8 stock so if hes a 6 spd wit a comptech icebox i def believ the 13.9...i can 13.9 with all my mods now...it all depends on the driver, track conditon, weather, & the car...i can burn a 540i up at highway speeds...and Trini has a CLS6 with comptech I/H/E and a SC and he ran a 13.7 at 106mph...it all depends on alot of diff factors...lets not try to depreciate our fellow acuraziners and praise him for holdin down the CL

2003lsv8

That's great that you can burn a 540 L's TL but we talking about a guy that just has an intake that's it (plus some drag radials). I am already at peace with this post after the truth was made clear. I will see you at 214 sometime L's TL and you better put BUS LENGTH's on me cause I am gonna try you and if you don't I am gonna clown you too! (Jus kiddin about the clowin part) & please believe there is nothing but luv for the CL's my brother owns one his name is lil turbo...... All I am saying is I am allergic to bul!sh!t and halfway through this post I started sneezing and coughing that's it nothing more........I do love yall though the cars are sweet.

lil_turbo4

L, What all mods do you have in your car? It was told to me that you had I/H/E in your car. If that is so, you ran a 13.9 with all that, this guy ran a 13.9 with just an intake! If your destroying 540i, he should be doing the samething! That just doesn't add up!

NightRider

Thanks, Joe

Joe5.0

So basically you're a troll with a Lincoln that tries to sniff out bullshit on a forum he doesnt even belong at? I understand that there is alot of shit talkers on the net, but I have backed up all my times with slips and details.

And btw if you'd like, post up some slips for your LS.

2003lsv8

Never been to the track, but the funny thing is some of your forum members have seen my car in action, I would love to run you in your street trim. Not a stalker at all, and I did tell you that your 13.9 was valid to me, just in the beginning you gotta understand all that stuff you listed later in the thread was not in your sig. So at the track yes you have a 13.9 sec car and that's great. But in your street trim it's a different story that's all I am saying.... You know it's true that is why u getting so emotional. I am far from a troll I actually happen to love your cars they are sexy as hell.

Look I won't keep this going any longer the facts are you held off a 540 (u think, as per your title) for an entire gear all while you started a full car length infront of him. KUDOS TO U

EL19

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Intake headers exhaust pulleys and a unichip wen i feel like actin bad!...i raced a LS V8 Sport the other night and every gear i put 2 lengths on him except for when i hit 4th i put like 5...he went home he was so blow...i thnk it wound up being like 8 cars or sumthn like that...he had an intake...i guess u got a good point there turbo...who knows? i dnt like doubting ppl cuz i h8 when they doubt me...but i will see yall out this weekend lol

SatinSilverAV6

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None of what you said makes sense. He hits 98MPH and the 1/4 mile in 13.9 seconds. You hit the 1/4 mile in 14.7 seconds at 97MPH. Your car would be slower than his! His 60ft time would be faster than yours. You must not go to the track very often. Look at a STI or a EVO. They hit 1/4 mile times in the low-mid 13's but only trap 100-102MPH. So are all of those guys lying! lol fool!!!!

SatinSilverAV6

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You have no idea what your talking about. It has nothing to do with ET times!!! Its trap speed you look at for races like his on the highway!! He is running 98MPH in his trap!! 540i autos run about 97MPH at best stock! The 540i would not murder his 6spd CL-S and thats why he didn't get beat down fool. Not even a 6spd 540i would murder him. They trap 100MPH at best. He would get pulled on highway speeds by a 6spd but barely! You have little knowlege about racing. You have a Lincoln LSV8 that would get walked on by my 03 AV6. My buddy has a newer LSV8 with the 280HP and he lost to me by 2 cars to 90MPH when I just had Intake and im an auto.

SatinSilverAV6

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They have seen your car in action and probobly laughed that it isn't faster than a stock auto CL-S. Ive seen your car in action plenty of times in my rearview mirror. My buddy was pretty upset that a V6 accord kept stuffing his 280HP Lincoln LS lol. Ill run you anyday and you will get walked! and Joe5.0 would blow your doors off!

2003lsv8

That's a joke not even worth replying to a stock one (lol) ok and you r the one that has no idea what they are talking about that trap speed don't mean anything in this race cause his trap is low but his 60 ft. times is great due to the DR's Duh hence the good launch and getting down the track. On the highway already rolling at 80mph that 540 would just pull harder and harder.

So a stock CLS huh well I hang with the MD peeps that always go to 214 to race how about you reach out and find me a stock one this Friday or Sat night and we will get back to you with the results. I won't sit here and debate that with you.

Hey L's TL you know any of yall that are stock????? I will even race Dirty Type S if he wants to even though he is not stock, but he is one of the few people that I have actually met and chilled at the races with.

I really wish you guys were local cause I would love to see Joe Blow my Doors off and you too (not sure what mods u have though so I really won't talk smack just yet) But Joe in street trim, on the highway, anytime.......!

2003lsv8

My God just saw your sig, 03 Accord Intake & Exhaust.......Please Wake Up Or tell me you have more mods than that. I was spanking those a few years back with my modded Solara oh my god now I see why you all over his sack, cause it's like you got a CLS just the BOOTLEGGED VERSION with less of everything including style (lol)

lil_turbo4

See whats funny about that V6 fool, is that he doesnt know squat! You know whos stock, me and babyacura22, Dirty type-s is somewhat modded! Whats funny about it is, when all of us were coming down 495 that night from the races you and dirty race on the high way(dirty has I/H/axle back Exhaust) You were punishing Dirty. Im stock with a six speed and I was able to edge out dirty! I know what car joe would blow the doors off with, would be that v6 accord thats talking!!! And yall cant tell me he don't know how to drive cause he got a auto, and it aint that hard to drive one! All I can say is I will borrow my aunts 540i and check the results for myself! L's TL, I want you to be involve as well. One race with your car vs the 540i and one race with mine vs the 540i.

2003lsv8

You know what as a matter of fact just push that 03 accord off a cliff. You are way to full of it, you must have the slowest car on this entire forum and I will no longer accept posts from you.

lil_turbo4

All of us need to stop talking about 1/4 mile times and trap speeds! This thread has nothing to do with that, its about a highway race from a roll! I myself cant see why this V6 accord guy is talking for just an intake and cat back exhaust, I can't really sit here and believe that, when I seen my brother (sn 2003lsv8) race one of my boys that has a CL-S with I/H/ axle back exhaust, lose to my brother badly! I drive a Six Speed and I was even able to edge out the same person! As far as V6 accords go which are the 03 to 05 models, me and my brother smash them all day long and most of them have I/h/E more then what V6 accord talking bout with his Intake and cat back Exhaust! But right now your not worth even talk bout! As far as my fellow CL-er, Beating a BMW 540i with Intake and heavy 19" or holding it off for one gear, you either beat him or you didn't, holding off for one gear is pointless! Where the problem lies is L's TL can smash 540i, which is understandable, just look at all his mods, plus I have seen his car in action, its extremely fast. Me and this guy joe 5.0 have the same car, he just has intake and 19", Im completely stock. Ive raced a 540i and lost to it bout 3-4 car lengths, he can beat it by 1-2 car lengths and all he has is an Intake with heavier rims, that really doesn't make any sense what so ever! Joe5.0 Im not really trying to bash you like that, but that is just hard to believe!



Now back to this V6 Accord thats talking all this nonsense! You said you beat a lsv8 by 2-3 cars with just an intake, but when coming back from the races last week with my brother he beat a 350z that was modded and a fellow CL-er that was modded!!! I know for a fact that the same cars that he beat, more then likely can beat your car! Lets be real here. You have no point at all! Also, you might want to check what lsv8 you raced cause all of them are different, that have 5 different lsv8 and some are lighter then others!

Joe5.0

Never said I beat him by 1-2 lengths, he actually pulled about 1/2 car length from 80-120.

And saying I held him off for a gear is also wrong. I COULD have shifted into 3rd, and probably would have done a tiny bit better, but I guarantee he had to run through 2 gears against me.

I NEVER once stated my car runs 13.9's right now. Look back and read, I stated plainly that my car is a mid 14's right now, at best. However the 19's hurt alot less from a roll, and there are no traction problems at 80mph (except in my Cobra, but thats another case ).

And btw my fiance's dad has an 05 LS V8, and while its a nice car it still isnt as fast as a 280hp car should be. He even said that my 6 speed feels faster than his. I did race a newer Thunderbird and beat him by 2 lengths up to like 70mph, and those are even lighter than the LS.

2003lsv8

To be completely honest the car does not feel that fast, I won't even say fast let's say quick. But you also have to realize the car was built as a luxury sedan model so be honest with yourself the exeleration in it is really smooth to the point where you look down and you don't even realize how fast your going. That's cool you can bash the LS or say what you want but at the end of the day I love and that's all that really matters to me. You see I didn't even get on here saying my car is this and my car is that, I know what happened on the high with that 350Z so does Lil Turbo, and so does Dirty. I don't need to brag or boast I am a car lover period. But I will race some CL's for ya this weekend and then they can give there take on what happened, I really hope to see L's TL so he can vouch for the ones I do Race!.........& Joe you said in your own post what I have been saying this whole time (Mid 14 sec car 90% of the time) So why did you get so mad at me for saying that earlier???????????????

SatinSilverAV6

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lil turdball 4 and 2003 LS V8 are the ghetto team lol. Your posts are hilarious. Its funny because you guys don't know what the hell your talking about. Its great just egging you fools on lol. 2003LSV8 you stated yourself in the last post that your car doesn't even feel that fast and you know why.........its because it isn't. Your car is a low 15 second car at best. Ive seen your car on youtube getting smoked at the track against a stock CL-S. My buddy has a stock one just like your overpriced so called luxury car and he lost to me by 2 cars to 90MPH MANY TIMES just when I had intake(not even my exhaust yet). You and lil turdball obviously don't know what 03 AV6's run but you should educate yourselfs lol. Lil turdball your brother with a LS V8 couldn't touch a modded Z. Even if your bros LSV8 had mods it would get dusted by any 350Z. I wouldn't believe a word you said because you have no credibility in my book. Your brother wished he beat a CL-S with I/H and axleback lol. That car is a low 14 second car with those mods in auto form and your bros stock low 15's car cant touch a modded CL-S let alone beat a stock CL-S auto unless your bro has serious mods. Your also a fool because you say your bro beats 03-05 AV6's all day long with I/H/E (bro the accords 03-07 cant have aftermarket headers). They are intergrated with the engine. They aren't bolt on like the CL's or TL's. So obviously your lying! Get your facts straight before you talk crap! Both the CL-S, TL-S and 03 AV6 have a better power to weight ratio over your LS V8(and any other LSV8 with your 5 different overweight models). The LS V8 is outclassed in its own category especially when there are V6's that are faster than it and some that outpower it!