CLS6 need to replace transmission mount bushings.

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Old Jun 24, 2022 | 07:40 PM
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Exclamation CLS6 need to replace transmission mount bushings.

I have a problem, I need to get these exact bushings, I've seen that the 3rd gen TLS6 has one of those bushings in the brand new transmission mount but the issue is is it even the correct size or could I just find the bushing itself, I tried and I even asked someone that knew this stuff and couldn't find it. Anybody can help me I need it because that engine and transmission can not go back in.






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Old Jun 24, 2022 | 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by MaxBeast4Z
I've seen that the 3rd gen TLS6 has one of those bushings in the brand new transmission mount but the issue is is it even the correct size...
As you may already know / realize, the two OEM transmission mounts for the 2003 CL-S6 have been discontinued with no aftermarket equivalent.

With that said, here are a few pictures, below, of the actual 04-08 TL6 (50860-SEP-A12) Rubber, Rear Transmission Mounting (Mt) you speak of.

To find out whether the 3G TL6 bush is anywhere near the size dimensions you picture for the 2G CL-S6 bush one would need to acquire the TL6 50860-SEP-A12 component and measure them.

If that is not an option, you would have to find:
1) a used CL-S6 trans. mount set on the interwebs or
2) find a nearby intact Canadian salvage CL-S6 to harvest them from or
3) ?







The one thing that I do see is the CL-S6 Flange bolt 95701-10085-08 that goes through the mount is 10X85.
The TL6 Flange bolt 90167-SCV-A01 is 10X105.
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Old Jun 25, 2022 | 06:13 AM
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Wait, what's wrong with that bushing? from your other swap thread it appears you broke a bolt off the aluminium bar. The mount appeared rusty. but intact.

Originally Posted by MaxBeast4Z

Update I was able to finally remove the transmission mounts for the manual transmission, The transmission aluminum bar mount one of the bolts broke in it I can still use it only on one mount but it's not good.



There's a p2r part for the bar
https://www.powerrevracing.com/03-CL...ing-p/p802.htm
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Old Jun 25, 2022 | 07:03 AM
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There's also a whole set, bar and mounts on ebay. Maybe msg them to see if they'd sell just the part you need:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/33443078370...mis&media=COPY

I'd get it myself as a spare, but you're in need more than me.
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Old Jun 27, 2022 | 05:52 PM
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Wait, what's wrong with that bushing? from your other swap thread it appears you broke a bolt off the aluminium bar. The mount appeared rusty. but intact.

There's a p2r part for the bar
https://www.powerrevracing.com/03-CL...ing-p/p802.htm

I am aware that they now make the transmission mount but I still have to find the solution for the rubber bushings and the mount that holds the rubber bushings
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Old Jun 27, 2022 | 05:57 PM
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As you may already know / realize, the two OEM transmission mounts for the 2003 CL-S6 have been discontinued with no aftermarket equivalent.

With that said, here are a few pictures, below, of the actual 04-08 TL6 (50860-SEP-A12) Rubber, Rear Transmission Mounting (Mt) you speak of.

To find out whether the 3G TL6 bush is anywhere near the size dimensions you picture for the 2G CL-S6 bush one would need to acquire the TL6 50860-SEP-A12 component and measure them.

If that is not an option, you would have to find:
1) a used CL-S6 trans. mount set on the interwebs or
2) find a nearby intact Canadian salvage CL-S6 to harvest them from or
3) ?





The one thing that I do see is the CL-S6 Flange bolt 95701-10085-08 that goes through the mount is 10X85.
The TL6 Flange bolt 90167-SCV-A01 is 10X105.
I actually bought the 3rd gen transmission mount there's no guaranteed that this could work, I'm willing to give it a shot.

I will give an update as soon as I get results.
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Old Jun 27, 2022 | 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by MaxBeast4Z
I actually bought the 3rd gen transmission mount there's no guaranteed that this could work, I'm willing to give it a shot.

I will give an update as soon as I get results.
Just curious, can you clarify / explain why you cannot use the trans mounts pictured below?
As 619rcr mentioned above, they look a bit 'rusty'; however, intact enough to serve the purpose, no?

How did you 'press' the bush below out of the metal trans mount housing & why?


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Old Jun 28, 2022 | 06:41 PM
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Just curious, can you clarify / explain why you cannot use the trans mounts pictured below?
As 619rcr mentioned above, they look a bit 'rusty'; however, intact enough to serve the purpose, no?

How did you 'press' the bush below out of the metal trans mount housing & why?

It was a pain in the butt for the second one because the rubber bushing casing was so rusted it actually butterflied itself so it wasn't going to come out without me cutting it in half.

I push them out due to the fact that one of them was deteriorating, I did both at the same time. One downside is you're better off to melt the rubber instead so you can have a howsing to mount possibly a smaller bushing or a custom bushing.
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Old Jun 29, 2022 | 04:49 PM
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This is very promising a 3rd gen TLS6 rubber bushing for the transmission will fit for the 2nd gen CLS6.

The only difference is that the metal surrounding the rubber bushing itself not the outer the inner is just a bit smaller.
Depending if they're not rotted out of course or what you could do is push the 3rd Gen mount bushing out cut the welds surrounding the cylinder, try to put the cylinder on the existing CLS6 mount.

I will have to put it on and see!







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Old Jun 29, 2022 | 05:26 PM
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Nice job!
Interested in your final result.
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Old Jun 29, 2022 | 06:54 PM
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Nice job!
Interested in your final result.
I actually tested it further and I found out that because of the thickness of the bushing metal cylinder the original one is 2.30 mm the new one is 1.45 mm, which means it fits but it's loose, so what I'm going to do is cut out the cylinder off the 3rd gen mount and I'm going to have to modify a lot on the CLS6 bushing mount.

This is going to take some time to modify and I only have one shot at it, there will be an update it will take a while.
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Old Jun 30, 2022 | 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by MaxBeast4Z
I actually tested it further and I found out that because of the thickness of the bushing metal cylinder the original one is 2.30 mm the new one is 1.45 mm, which means it fits but it's loose, so what I'm going to do is cut out the cylinder off the 3rd gen mount and I'm going to have to modify a lot on the CLS6 bushing mount.
It would be great if one could find a softler tubing sleave, like brass, that was just a little larger than the 62.33mm below, that could be slipped over the existing bush metal.
At the same time, make up for the .85mm thickness difference between the outer case of the TL bush and the CL-S6 trans mount assembly inner wall?
That way the TL bush could be pressed into the existing intact CL-S6 trans assembly case without modification rather than 'recreating the wheel', as they say?

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Old Jun 30, 2022 | 10:42 AM
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Just throwing 'stuff' out there to consider.
Another idea would be to 'band saw' cut an appropriately wide slit (red line below), on the CL-S6 trans mount case, compress it closed with a vice.
Then weld it together with the result being enough to make up the .85mm difference; thus, allowing you to press the existing TL bush into the trans mount assembly?
Like you said, you'll only have one shot, so careful consideration & planning will be paramount.
I used the TL6 trans mount assembly, in the picture below, just to clearly convey what I was talking about.

Good Luck!

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