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Old Dec 11, 2010 | 08:19 AM
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ok i hate to ask this. but um.. when its cold out.. and u turn the car on for the first time of the day. let it warm up a lil. and umm the car shifts into second and it shifts hard. but then its gone by the third time u shift into second. what does that mean... FML!
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Old Dec 11, 2010 | 08:59 AM
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if you eaze off the throttle going into the 2nd gear when it changes does it help the harsh engagement?

do you have any codes??

flashing D5?

does D5 come on when you are in ignition II?

when was the last time you changed the fluid, external ATF filter?

how many miles on this transmission.?
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Old Dec 11, 2010 | 02:18 PM
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Its cold.
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Old Dec 11, 2010 | 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by civicdrivr
Its cold.
Yeah, my CL has always shifted a little hard when it's cold outside, after starting up. Within 5-10 minutes of driving the shifting is unnoticeable. As a matter of fact, my transmission isn't the only thing that acts funny when it's cold.... then goes back to normal when the car heats up.
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Old Dec 11, 2010 | 07:20 PM
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manually shift it then, not in SS.
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Old Dec 11, 2010 | 10:26 PM
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I had that problem too and days after that started my tranny wouldnt go out of first gear. it ended up needing to be replaced with a rebuilt. Now with my "new" rebuilt I do not have that problem even when its cold in the morning.
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Old Dec 12, 2010 | 09:08 AM
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when transmission is cold, its normal to have slightly delayed and harder shifts. It should not slip though. Keep in mind that when you warm up a car idling it does nothing to warm up your transmission, transmission gets warmed up only when the car is moving.
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Old Dec 12, 2010 | 11:38 AM
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that's not true.. the transmission heats up sitting in neutral..

I got a transmission gauge to prove it.

when you are sitting in a traffic jam or in park the trans is just roasting itself.



when trans is working properly and is cold the shifts shouldn't be hard per se since the transmission actually engages deliberately much slower to avoid the harsh engagements. but I can only expect as the trans gets older.. it'll delay the shifts less and less when cold.. hence why it feels harsher than normal when cold.

tans is getting worn..
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Old Dec 12, 2010 | 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by CL-S progression 01
that's not true.. the transmission heats up sitting in neutral..

I got a transmission gauge to prove it.

when you are sitting in a traffic jam or in park the trans is just roasting itself.



when trans is working properly and is cold the shifts shouldn't be hard per se since the transmission actually engages deliberately much slower to avoid the harsh engagements. but I can only expect as the trans gets older.. it'll delay the shifts less and less when cold.. hence why it feels harsher than normal when cold.

tans is getting worn..
My shifts dont get smoother after warm up in neutral. Only after I drive it for few minutes. Your tranny probably gets slightly warmed because its sitting next to engine. They are not harsh either, just more distinct opposed to butter smooth after its fully warmed. And ECU by design makes shifts at slightly higher RPMS when engine is cold.
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Old Dec 12, 2010 | 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by CL-S progression 01
if you eaze off the throttle going into the 2nd gear when it changes does it help the harsh engagement?

do you have any codes??

flashing D5?

does D5 come on when you are in ignition II?

when was the last time you changed the fluid, external ATF filter?

how many miles on this transmission.?
actually total ipposite if i hit the gas hard it shifts easier and no flashing
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Old Dec 12, 2010 | 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by xtremecro
actually total ipposite if i hit the gas hard it shifts easier and no flashing
thats a dirty set of words.... what was flashing?

Im on my 3rd tranny, so I am tuned into my dash big time...
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Old Dec 12, 2010 | 10:24 PM
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wait when i turn igniton to II D5 gets lit up and shuts off. and only P stays on.
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Old Dec 12, 2010 | 10:35 PM
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I would also take my car to autozone, etc and have the codes pulled from your ecu... make sure your not having some other source for the problem.
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Old Dec 12, 2010 | 11:02 PM
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i mean no flashing. but civicdrvr asked if d5 light turns on when ur in II it goes on as well as park for a second but whats that mean
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Old Dec 12, 2010 | 11:11 PM
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Originally Posted by xtremecro
i mean no flashing. but civicdrvr asked if d5 light turns on when ur in II it goes on as well as park for a second but whats that mean
I feel ya... I would still see about those codes.
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Old Dec 13, 2010 | 12:20 AM
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Originally Posted by xtremecro
i mean no flashing. but civicdrvr asked if d5 light turns on when ur in II it goes on as well as park for a second but whats that mean
When did I ask that?
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Old Dec 13, 2010 | 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by civicdrivr
When did I ask that?
woops got u mixed up with progerssion
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Old Dec 13, 2010 | 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by xtremecro
wait when i turn igniton to II D5 gets lit up and shuts off. and only P stays on.
Normal.

Not normal when D5 starts flashing when your driving it.
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Old Dec 13, 2010 | 08:12 PM
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ok good no flashing at all. just the igniton II D5 light up and then offf
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