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11-09-2004, 11:19 PM
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assuming good driver i would have to put my money on the accord 6 spd. stock they should run mid 14's..ive seen one dude run a 14.28 stock. i highly doubt a cl-s auto could achieve those times (stock of course).
11-09-2004, 11:33 PM
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the accord should win. 
11-09-2004, 11:58 PM
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The 6speed would win obvious.....Dont be fooled on those v6 accords, they r just as fast if not damn near close to our cl's. My bro has v6 accord coup. auto but the car dips strong. I get impressed when I drive when switching from my 6speed cls.
I think better question would have been cls 6speed vs. 03 accord v6 6speed, stock & both being good drivers.
I think better question would have been cls 6speed vs. 03 accord v6 6speed, stock & both being good drivers.
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11-10-2004, 12:01 AM
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nope it will just hang, the stock auto vs 6speed is almost by a second. I doubt you would gain a second just by doing headers. Plus auto trannys eats up lot more power vs manual.
11-10-2004, 12:15 AM
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Originally Posted by 260hpCLS
nope it will just hang, the stock auto vs 6speed is almost by a second. I doubt you would gain a second just by doing headers. Plus auto trannys eats up lot more power vs manual.
11-10-2004, 12:17 AM
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auto 03 av6 run 15.34 stock? get your facts.... 
http://autos.msn.com/research/vip/Sp...=98185&src=VIP
http://autos.msn.com/research/vip/Sp...=98185&src=VIP
11-10-2004, 12:56 AM
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Originally Posted by 3.2cl-s
Ummm.....I think we have a newbie that likes to mag race....hahaha
teh msn autos site isnt where you get numbers....i thought there was a thread about the av6-6spd breaking into the 13's with slicks...
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11-10-2004, 11:49 AM
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Those 6MT Accords are damn fast, if damn ugly. However, not many people know how to drive a stick all too well... so it really does come down to the two drivers. If the Accord driver botches the launch, that's all the CL-S needs to win.
11-10-2004, 12:37 PM
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What kind of race are we talking about, from a stop or from highway speeds. I have raced one of my buddies in his AV6speed on the freeway from around 70 a couple of times and beat him, but he has beaten me as well. From a stop, if he launches it good there is nothing I can do, but take one on the chin 
11-10-2004, 07:37 PM
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I have had good runs with 3-4 of these so far. Compared to the Cl-S, and I have CAI and headers with toyo t1s 235/45/17.
Each time the results were the same the Accord jumps ahead by a car up to the time I slam ssecond in the CL-S. Gate shifting this bites second VERY hard and jumps at least even by 5500rpm in 2nd The CLS continues to pull a least a car by 70mph and 3 cars until you hit fourth. Since 4th in the 5at cl is overdrive. You might as well give up to the V-6 at 115mph.
WIthout headers on the CL, the accord would be dead even from 50-100
Each time the results were the same the Accord jumps ahead by a car up to the time I slam ssecond in the CL-S. Gate shifting this bites second VERY hard and jumps at least even by 5500rpm in 2nd The CLS continues to pull a least a car by 70mph and 3 cars until you hit fourth. Since 4th in the 5at cl is overdrive. You might as well give up to the V-6 at 115mph.
WIthout headers on the CL, the accord would be dead even from 50-100
11-10-2004, 07:39 PM
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The above is mostly because <2.861% of the drivers on the road can not drive like the magazine racers, who are pros.
Especially a stick.
I also have 4 years of experience with hard launches on the CL-S, gate shifting every shift since new......
Especially a stick.
I also have 4 years of experience with hard launches on the CL-S, gate shifting every shift since new......
11-10-2004, 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Roadmaster
I'm running 14.8's in my AUTO 2003 Accord V6 with just an intake.
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11-11-2004, 11:30 AM
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1-3 gears in the Accord are basically the same to the CLS, however 4th is different, but I believe 5th is the same.
VTEC engagement for the Accord is 4900rpm and going from 3rd to 4th I drop to about 4800revs.
The quickest 7th gen AUTO i have seen was a 2003 LX sedan that pulled a couple of 14.5's with an Intake. He is on V6performance.net as LXV6guy.
The Auto accords will run pretty much 15 flat in stock configuration. With induction systems and higher octane fuel (it helps us) the cars dip into the 14.6-14.8 range.
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VTEC engagement for the Accord is 4900rpm and going from 3rd to 4th I drop to about 4800revs.
The quickest 7th gen AUTO i have seen was a 2003 LX sedan that pulled a couple of 14.5's with an Intake. He is on V6performance.net as LXV6guy.
The Auto accords will run pretty much 15 flat in stock configuration. With induction systems and higher octane fuel (it helps us) the cars dip into the 14.6-14.8 range.
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11-11-2004, 12:40 PM
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Wow! A CLS auto will not beat a 7th gen AV6 6-speed! Like most have said it would take a CLS auto with headers and intake to hang. Auto vs auto is a very good race and manny vs manny. Both times I would give the edge to the CLS but it would probably be 6-4 in 10 tries. Remember the accords have 240 horse vs. 260 on the CLS but the accord weighs about 200lbs less.
11-11-2004, 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by mattg
we've seen cl-s auto's run as quick as 14.6 w/ just intake.
11-11-2004, 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by ga2000
mine did 14.4 with just intake cls auto>........................
How did you get a 14.4 with only 95mph trap speed?? The slips I have seen from some members here are pulling 14.8's with that trap.....you must have had a killer launch (2.1's). (By the way not flaming you or saying you didnt get those times but damn dude, way to go!
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11-11-2004, 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by UNCTYPE-S
i would have my money on the cl, but i think it would come down to the driver
I don't know, it's been the general consensus from what I've seen CL-S's running that they are low 15 second cars (w/ few exceptions), i've seen a few 6 speed accords in the mid 14's
11-11-2004, 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Dem1K
that's not what MOST are running?
if not then
I know when I last went to the track w/ Mike and some of the SD Type S guys they were in the low 15's and he had intake and headers, and that was at Carlsbad which is generally a quick track.
11-11-2004, 04:36 PM
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As always, the car, track, weather and driver are always going to be a big factor in the performance of a vehicle. That and the fact that we are talking mere tenths of a second. I for one run at Indianapolis Raceway Park in Indianapolis Indiana. The weather for my runs does vary but my 14.8's have always been in rather average conditions. Sure, I've run my fare share of 14.9's, 15.0's, 15.1's but the conditions were all different and the condition of my car, ie weight in vehicle, gas, and break in miles have changed.
I typically cut 2.2-2.3 60-foot times with the automatic.
The J30A4 is the motor in the Accord and produces 240hp and 212lb/ft of torque on 87 octane fuel and (per honda's indication, but yet to be fully and accuratly proven) 250hp and 222lb/ft of torque on premium fuel.
The 6-speeds employ a dual-stage intake manifold, the Automatics do not. Likewise the redline on our motor is a touch lower than the J32's at 6,800 and the rev limit is set at 6,900rpm.
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I typically cut 2.2-2.3 60-foot times with the automatic.
The J30A4 is the motor in the Accord and produces 240hp and 212lb/ft of torque on 87 octane fuel and (per honda's indication, but yet to be fully and accuratly proven) 250hp and 222lb/ft of torque on premium fuel.
The 6-speeds employ a dual-stage intake manifold, the Automatics do not. Likewise the redline on our motor is a touch lower than the J32's at 6,800 and the rev limit is set at 6,900rpm.
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11-11-2004, 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by CLpower
that's not what MOST are running?
if not then
I know when I last went to the track w/ Mike and some of the SD Type S guys they were in the low 15's and he had intake and headers, and that was at Carlsbad which is generally a quick track.
if not then
I know when I last went to the track w/ Mike and some of the SD Type S guys they were in the low 15's and he had intake and headers, and that was at Carlsbad which is generally a quick track.
11-11-2004, 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Dem1K
I was laughing at him pulling out the mag stats and trying to school me. If anyone is going to try and tell me that the same car, one with a 6spd, and the other being a 5spd auto is an ENTIRE second difference in the quarter mile, you can blow me. That's ludicrous, to say the least.
eh, I wouldn't be suprised if it was close to a second. Esp. considering these shitty power sucking trannies
I'd say .5-.7 may be accurate