Rajca

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Well, since i ordered my CF hood, im gonna find a way to weigh my oem hood and the cf hood and see how much weigh i shaved off. this isnt going to be a quick process, just what i can do for the time being until i boost it and make it my official track/ weekend warrior car

03 Cl-S6 curb weight- 3446 lbs
My weight as of 4-26-08- 180lbs

so far i have removed:
"FR. BUMPER DYNAMIC DAMPER": 4 lbs

poisx7

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GOOD LUCK WITH TTHAT.
what'z ur goal for the car ?

fuzzy02CLS

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Lighten rotational mass. Light rims/tires,/brakes.

Rajca

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^looking for some light weigh 17 now, just shopping around as of now.

my goal is to get around the 3200-3250lbs for the track.

OEM hood and grill- 39 lbs
then dropped my scale and need to get a new one, damn

StonedCL

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I dont understand why people buy a luxo cruising coupe and try to turn it into a race car. There are so many other cars that are much better suited to do this to. Our car is HEAVY , Its a luxery car , why are so many people tring to turn it into a rocket. You have to put so much money into it just to hit 13's in th 1/4 mile. I don't THINK you van make this car do 12's no matter what u do, and if you do and have a auto trans then say goodbye to that tranny!

DC3328

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^ go home

good luck rajca, hopefully some of these things can be done on the TL too

Rajca

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its bc it can be a sleeper. a 2dr luxury couple hanging with V8's puts a smile on my face any day.
my plan is to hit low 13s to high 12s and only spending 5k to get their. i bought the car for $1800 so its not like i fucked up. and u dont see cl run 13 or lower. i want to be different. not like every civic their that has a turbo and completely stripped running 11-12s

civicdrivr

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Track car right? Take out the rear seats. Replace the driver and passenger seat with racing buckets. Take out the spare tire, jack and tools. Remove the molded carpet in the trunk. If you feel like going really wild, pull all the carpet and dry ice the sound deadening. That stuff is surprisingly heavy. Remove radio and all components. Again, if this is truely a track only car, remove all the climate control bs; fan, ducting, a/c compressor, evaporator, condensor, lines, the whole nine. If money permits, pull the rear glass and install lexan, and remove the sunroof and replace with a cap of some sort (you can make a CF one, fiberglass one, or even just weld it up.

Most of that sttuff is free. Keep in mind that racing buckets can cost upwards of a grand.

CleanCL

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3250 is well within reach.

replace:
-carbon fiber hood and trunk
-battery
-wheels/tires
-front brake kit
-suspension
-intake
-full exhaust
-3 piece pulley set
-single din radio
-replace rear deck with cardboard covered in black fabric

remove:
-floor mats
-all trunk lining
-spare/tools
-engine bay covers
-cruise control module & cable
-windshield washer tank/pump/lines
-heat shields on underbody
-front/rear brake dust shieldso
-maintain half tank of gas

remember, almost all aftermarket parts weigh less than factory parts. doing all of the above should remove close to 200lbs and also maintain a stock look and safety until you can dedicate it to track.

Rajca

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im not planning on making it a full track car. just what i can remove for the track

i took out the sound denoting from my tl-s and it was quite heavy when u pick it up all at once. planning on making something for the sunroof too. but i want to keep everything but the glass and make a cf replacement so it can still slide open. not planning on removing any ac/heater stuff.

StonedCL

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Good luck hitting 12's with the CL , post your timeslip if you do...

StonedCL

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I have been on this forum since this car came out in march 2000 and people did the 3.5 swap comptech supercharger,headers,intake, exhoust and still did not break 13..
Then they realized this IS NOT A RACE car and sold it and moved on to something lighter with more potential.. You will get wiser as you get older and move on also!

fuzzy02CLS

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Post a slip when your done.

phee

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YOU DO REALIZE that he has a 6 speed cl right? not an auto. if you dont agree with his progres then you dont have to bash his work. move on

LIPPSTUH

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u go with vis?

if anyone lives in socal: i called for VIS for a quote $750 for both vis cf trunk and hood... cash picked up. cheap, probably can go down..

krisdlm

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best of luck bro, i had a s/c cl and was not able to break into the 12s due to tire spin/crappy tires. Closest I got was a 13.2. Evo broke 12s couple wks ago, but they are 2 totally different cars

DC3328

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has anyone used drag radials or slicks to track their CL?

TarzanCLS

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i havent been here very long, but despite my age, i have built many hondas and have more hands on knowledge and experience than 60% of the people on the forum. added i am studying mechanical engineering at FSU. from all of the research i have done on this forum, please let tell me if i have somehow missed a historical thread like that, but NO ONE has completed a 3.5L Turbo. i read some people making into the high 3's for whp. CL-S6 made 380 running lean on stock internals. i think with internals/ bigger turbo he would easily hit 430+whp which should be enough to break into high 12s if axles hold up, however it might not be feasible for 5k including the car... i agree w/ phee^ dont bash on someone when we dont see you getting your hands dirty trying to make some history.

princelybug

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You mean "09", right?

Rajca

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^ my bad 09.

im planning on boosting around 10-11psi max with stock internals and looking to get over 400whp and over 350 wtq. (its been done once)

i know tracking will be a big problem, gonna run slick and hope for the best.

i went with a vis cf hood. payed $580 shipped ($150 just to ship the thing).

one thing i have about sc is that they take away power to make power. the most ive seen a cl/tl get was 80whp out of a sc. and for the price of one its not worth it.


the car is not included in the 5k limit. the turbo is already big enough for me to boost up wards of 45psi (but i wont). turbo lag will be a problem, got that solved with a 75-100 shot nitrous from 2000-4500ish rpm to help it spool.

EL19

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^^^ u shuld be able to hit 13s easy. My boy ran 13.3 with intake, headers, exhaust, pulley, and a bunchy of port & polish work and drag radials in his 03cls6. Shouldnt be an issue really. Hell he made 13.7 with just intake, headers and no exhaust. I ran 13.9 in my recently deceased auto TLS 13s are easily in reach just have to know how to drive and launch and mod. Good luck.

TarzanCLS

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13s? my new hero is shooting for 12s

Rajca

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im gonna track my car stock in a month or so to see what i have to start withj

phee

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i posted a serious cat post in an earlier thread with all the stuff that can be removed from a 2nd gen tl. everyone said i was bored. i cant seem to find the post. but its hella helpful.

StonedCL

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I am not bashing anyones will to try or work.
I'm just letting you know I have been on this forum since day one even before it was acurazine when it was 260hp.com and I have seen ALOT of people try to turn this car into a 1/4 monster with little success.
I am just trying to save you time and energy if you think you can muster under 13 with this car. I love to go on this forum and see the crazy things with there cars and am not discourging anyone from doing it, just letting you know from the 9 years on this forum that many have tried!

phee

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i understand your argument.

but i have to rebute with the fact that a-lot of developments have been made in the passed nine years.

another member here put down well over 300 HP in his 6 speed CL running relatively low boost.

it seems like rajca is planning on forged internals with low compression and high boost.

A 3g TL-er known as typ-s09 ran 13's stock just from excellent shifting. he was in a base model 6 speed tl. it is common knowledge that an auto type-s 2g tl is just as fast as a base model 3g tl. so one can conclude that a 6 speed cl is just as fast as a 6 speed base 3rd gen.

with the right tune, the right tires, and the right shifting and boost. the cl can be a mid to high 12 second car.

just a thought

Rajca

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well back then when the cars were 30k+ and under warranty no one would want to void it by throwing a turbo on it or stripping it. now since u can pick up t he for under 12k and the warranty is out, then why not go all out on the car

aznboi2424

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some guy spent a year and a half dropping in a turbo'ed J32A3 into his CL-6

davepaul033

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So the race for the 12's has begun! I will let you guys know when i do it lol

Rajca

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back on topic. ill make a new thread on what i have removed for the track when i run NA.

spare tire:28lbs, small jack and tools:7lbs. total 35lbs

spare tire carpet/wood cover: 8lbs

so if anyone want to strip the entire trunk they can remover a good 50-55lbs.

sinfulj32

deceased? u never got to swap the 6spd?

civicdrivr

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Wuss

Rajca

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wuss? haha. i just want to hit 12s and im good. later one i might go for 11's if moneys not going to be a problem

civicdrivr

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Haha, turbo'd I really don't see why this car couldnt get into the 12s. And thats with full interior. Once you strip it and run drag radials at the least I definately don't see why you couldnt get into the 11s. Just work on your 60ft.

nf3d0149ab

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Oh really?

I would drive down there for that price.

nf3d0149ab

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Good thread Rajca.

*Subscribed*

GrandeInter10

didnt allmotor hit 12s?

civicdrivr

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Im pretty sure there was someone on here that got into the 12s.

Rajca

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hitting 12s na is not possible with our engine in our cars. in a civic, yes. not in ours.

DC3328

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Kris might get close to it