CL-S vs. BMW 330 CI
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From: Ft. Myers
CL-S vs. BMW 330 CI
I have a 2003 CL TYPE-S and my best friend just got a new 330 CI. I have an auto and he has the stick. We have raced a lot of times and I have only been beaten by him once ( I accidentally left VSA on). All of the magazines say that his car is faster but I still smoke him. :P
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A few days ago I was leaving my friends neighborhood ( the friend with the 330ci) and we pulled up next to these two kids in a 98 mustang gt. My friend was saying how he thought it would be a good race. I thought that I would kill the kids. So I rolled down my window and told the kid to race me. He kindof smiled and said o.k. He obviously thought that I had no chance. HE was driving a stick shift. I turned off VSA and put it into SS. The light turned and I spun a little and he beat me off the line. Then I started gaining on him quickly. I had already caught up next to him right before 2nd gear. When we got into 2nd gear the kid was gone. I totally left his ass. The kid must have been embarresed because he broke hard and made a u-turn. I guess he learned a valuable lesson. Dont f!!k with a cl.
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The 330ci is a good close race for the stock auto CL-S/TL-S, I have yet to lose to one going up to 100, they are definitely quick, and if you get a bad launch you may be in trouble if you are auto. A stock CL-S six speed, or a modded auto, you should have no problem at all beating a 330ci, unless the BMW is modded, then be careful!
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From: Vancouver,b.c
Originally posted by darrinb
he says hes stock
some where in the 3 figure range, i'll do what ever he wants, i dont care
but it rained again so we'll do it tommorw
he says hes stock
some where in the 3 figure range, i'll do what ever he wants, i dont care
but it rained again so we'll do it tommorw
if he's stock you'll kill him
i've put 3-4 cars with my cl and i've hit times that you have hit
best time ever with the cl was a 14.08
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From: Vancouver,b.c
Originally posted by darrinb
damn thats a nice ass time, 14.08!!!
details?? was it really cold out?? what was the car setup??
damn thats a nice ass time, 14.08!!!
details?? was it really cold out?? what was the car setup??
last year oct 29 i had made 5 runs and i was hitting 14.15-14.25
were running every 40 minutes
and on my final run at 9:00pm temp was 54
the fuel light was on, trunk was clear and we had dropped the tires down to 22 pounds. and brake torq to 2500 and let her rip in drive all the way down.
haven't been back to the track yet this year to see if i could match it.
i'm a lot like scalbart were if i can't match my times then its a one shot wonder. i have already hit 14.17 6 times.
i have no cats
car has a tranny cooler
synth oil (engine,tranny)
and a continus electric fan (i can switch off)
i have noticed that the chevron 94 octane is the best gas for both of my cars.
the truck has been my main focus lately
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From: Vancouver,b.c
Originally posted by darrinb
how do the:
car has a tranny cooler
synth oil (engine,tranny)
and a continus electric fan (i can switch off)
help your performance??
how do the:
car has a tranny cooler
synth oil (engine,tranny)
and a continus electric fan (i can switch off)
help your performance??
there isn't a shit load of mods for these cars
besides the
comp headers
oem intake
pullies
which i have
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dumb question, what's a VSA?
dumb question, what's a VSA?
VEHICLE STABILITY ASSIST (VSA)
First offered in 2000 on the Acura 3.5 RL flagship sedan, the VSA system is standard equipment on the CL Type-S model with 5-speed Sequential SportShift automatic transmission. Like the 3.5 RL system, the CL's system orchestrates the throttle and brakes to seamlessly integrate TCS, ABS and traction control processes. This innovation is designed to assist the driver in maintaining control during cornering, acceleration and sudden collision-avoidance maneuvers by applying brake force to the right or left front wheel as necessary and managing the throttle and ignition systems.
By monitoring input from eight vehicle sensors, the VSA system can calculate a predicted range of vehicle response while constantly monitoring the vehicle's actual response and the driver's control inputs. If the actual response is outside the predicted response range, as when cornering forces exceed the tires performance, VSA automatically intervenes with corrective action. In the case of oversteer (which may lead to spin), VSA applies braking to the outside front wheel to counter the unintended yawing tendency. On the other hand, if understeer is detected, VSA applies braking to the inside front wheel and reduces engine power to turn the car back on to the intended course.
Unlike some vehicle stability systems, which can seem intrusive to enthusiast drivers, the CL's VSA is calibrated to add stability and predictability, without stifling the driving enjoyment of the CL's carefully engineered chassis and double wishbone suspension. An indicator light flashes on the instrument panel while the system is actively enhancing the stability of the vehicle. A cockpit switch is provided to disable the VSA and TCS while leaving the ABS fully functional.
First offered in 2000 on the Acura 3.5 RL flagship sedan, the VSA system is standard equipment on the CL Type-S model with 5-speed Sequential SportShift automatic transmission. Like the 3.5 RL system, the CL's system orchestrates the throttle and brakes to seamlessly integrate TCS, ABS and traction control processes. This innovation is designed to assist the driver in maintaining control during cornering, acceleration and sudden collision-avoidance maneuvers by applying brake force to the right or left front wheel as necessary and managing the throttle and ignition systems.
By monitoring input from eight vehicle sensors, the VSA system can calculate a predicted range of vehicle response while constantly monitoring the vehicle's actual response and the driver's control inputs. If the actual response is outside the predicted response range, as when cornering forces exceed the tires performance, VSA automatically intervenes with corrective action. In the case of oversteer (which may lead to spin), VSA applies braking to the outside front wheel to counter the unintended yawing tendency. On the other hand, if understeer is detected, VSA applies braking to the inside front wheel and reduces engine power to turn the car back on to the intended course.
Unlike some vehicle stability systems, which can seem intrusive to enthusiast drivers, the CL's VSA is calibrated to add stability and predictability, without stifling the driving enjoyment of the CL's carefully engineered chassis and double wishbone suspension. An indicator light flashes on the instrument panel while the system is actively enhancing the stability of the vehicle. A cockpit switch is provided to disable the VSA and TCS while leaving the ABS fully functional.
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