CL-S tougher than I thought!
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CL-S tougher than I thought!
I missed a turn doing about 60 (a 25 MPH turn).
I turned the wheel and car kept going straight. I hit a curb at this speed and all I got was a scratched rim and some scratches under the car. Of course I got an alignment after this. I expected some suspension parts to be bent, and nothing.
My car jumped the curb, then I had to jump it back to get on the right lane. The curb was at least a five inches high dividing two lanes.
I know, this was dumb! At least I now know the limits of my car...
:P
I'm running with Eibach springs now. Soon to have sways, etc. installed.
I also now have RH EVO C4's, so I know I wont be doing any crazy driving!
Amazing how strong the suspension components of our cars are!
I turned the wheel and car kept going straight. I hit a curb at this speed and all I got was a scratched rim and some scratches under the car. Of course I got an alignment after this. I expected some suspension parts to be bent, and nothing.
My car jumped the curb, then I had to jump it back to get on the right lane. The curb was at least a five inches high dividing two lanes.
I know, this was dumb! At least I now know the limits of my car...
:P
I'm running with Eibach springs now. Soon to have sways, etc. installed.
I also now have RH EVO C4's, so I know I wont be doing any crazy driving!
Amazing how strong the suspension components of our cars are!
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Originally posted by ABreece
You're lucky. My mom spun my CL-S on the highway (didnt' hit anthing, but did do about 2 360s) and i had to pay for new struts. Ouch
You're lucky. My mom spun my CL-S on the highway (didnt' hit anthing, but did do about 2 360s) and i had to pay for new struts. Ouch
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Originally posted by dgracer
Lucky you didnt kill anyone. What are you trying to prove? Save it for the track.
Lucky you didnt kill anyone. What are you trying to prove? Save it for the track.
Now tell me you never had that feeling before, and did something stupid? ? ?
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Man after this I don’t worry about my car...
I kinda side swipe my both rims on curb…. I didn’t even hit it…just swiped it. So there was a lil tilt on my s. wheel but that got fixed with alignment...
I was worried tho if maybe somehow something was missed...but after reading this i think it should be fine!
I think one thing was slightly off is camber….. or something mechanic said that they cant do anything about that. Cause manufacture says that part can’t be aligned.... (I forgot what part it was.)
Glad you are all alright…and good to know!
I kinda side swipe my both rims on curb…. I didn’t even hit it…just swiped it. So there was a lil tilt on my s. wheel but that got fixed with alignment...
I was worried tho if maybe somehow something was missed...but after reading this i think it should be fine!
I think one thing was slightly off is camber….. or something mechanic said that they cant do anything about that. Cause manufacture says that part can’t be aligned.... (I forgot what part it was.)
Glad you are all alright…and good to know!
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common mistake of inexperienced drivers.
my guess is that you were on the brakes while making the turn, trying to slow down while making the turn. Big Mistake. Reason? to make a turn, your wheels have to be spinning. but since you were stepping on the brakes, your wheels stopped spinning. So, instead of the car moving in the direction of where the tire are pointed, your car lost grip and slid in the direction you were moving. in this case, straight. so basicly you had a better chance just turning the wheel hard and making the turn. yeah understeer is the biggest problem with most fwd cars.
my guess is that you were on the brakes while making the turn, trying to slow down while making the turn. Big Mistake. Reason? to make a turn, your wheels have to be spinning. but since you were stepping on the brakes, your wheels stopped spinning. So, instead of the car moving in the direction of where the tire are pointed, your car lost grip and slid in the direction you were moving. in this case, straight. so basicly you had a better chance just turning the wheel hard and making the turn. yeah understeer is the biggest problem with most fwd cars.
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I think he just overcooked it. I've found that in a (stock) Type-S about the max you can do is double the posted speed of a turn. He was pretty well above that. Actually braking would have helped the front bite as long as the wheels werent locked. It is when you go charging in to a turn either under power or coasting that you experience understeer. Remember, weight on a tire is grip.
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Originally posted by TeamBlurryCL
common mistake of inexperienced drivers.
my guess is that you were on the brakes while making the turn, trying to slow down while making the turn. Big Mistake. Reason? to make a turn, your wheels have to be spinning. but since you were stepping on the brakes, your wheels stopped spinning. So, instead of the car moving in the direction of where the tire are pointed, your car lost grip and slid in the direction you were moving. in this case, straight. so basicly you had a better chance just turning the wheel hard and making the turn. yeah understeer is the biggest problem with most fwd cars.
common mistake of inexperienced drivers.
my guess is that you were on the brakes while making the turn, trying to slow down while making the turn. Big Mistake. Reason? to make a turn, your wheels have to be spinning. but since you were stepping on the brakes, your wheels stopped spinning. So, instead of the car moving in the direction of where the tire are pointed, your car lost grip and slid in the direction you were moving. in this case, straight. so basicly you had a better chance just turning the wheel hard and making the turn. yeah understeer is the biggest problem with most fwd cars.
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Re: CL-S tougher than I thought!
Originally posted by Gabo3k
I missed a turn doing about 60 (a 25 MPH turn).
I turned the wheel and car kept going straight. I hit a curb at this speed and all I got was a scratched rim and some scratches under the car. Of course I got an alignment after this. I expected some suspension parts to be bent, and nothing.
My car jumped the curb, then I had to jump it back to get on the right lane. The curb was at least a five inches high dividing two lanes.
I know, this was dumb! At least I now know the limits of my car...
:P
I'm running with Eibach springs now. Soon to have sways, etc. installed.
I also now have RH EVO C4's, so I know I wont be doing any crazy driving!
Amazing how strong the suspension components of our cars are!
I missed a turn doing about 60 (a 25 MPH turn).
I turned the wheel and car kept going straight. I hit a curb at this speed and all I got was a scratched rim and some scratches under the car. Of course I got an alignment after this. I expected some suspension parts to be bent, and nothing.
My car jumped the curb, then I had to jump it back to get on the right lane. The curb was at least a five inches high dividing two lanes.
I know, this was dumb! At least I now know the limits of my car...
:P
I'm running with Eibach springs now. Soon to have sways, etc. installed.
I also now have RH EVO C4's, so I know I wont be doing any crazy driving!
Amazing how strong the suspension components of our cars are!
In Short, I was taking a ramp that gets to an overpass with a total of 270 degree turn at some 50 MPH. The posted speed is 25 MPH. Just as I was coming at the end of the ramp and entering the overpass straight, The stock tire gave away and I had 90 degrees right spin, VSA did it is best to correct, but it was too late. I was one of scariest moment I ever had in ANY car. I tried to correct by steering to the left as fast I can, It did not help! It was so fast, the CLS was moving side ways and ended hitting the right side curb head on and where the right wheel hit the curb first!
The CLS jumped over the curb, the front lower towing hook was bent, and once the front right tire hit the curb the CLS literally bounced back.
My passenger almost felt he died or going to die. He shut his eyes and thought we will be another statistics..
Of course, we were lucky to go from 50 MPH to zero MPH in 1-2 seconds.
I pulled back and tried to drive my CLS. Of course the steering wheel was messed up!
The list of damage includes:
1) A bent right from rim and busted tire that were replaced by the tire shop at no cost!
2) An out of alignment. Again fixed by the tire shop at no cost.
3) A bent hook. Still to date not fixed.
4) some scraps on the lower plastic splash guards.
And most importantly, some bruised ego and embarrassment.
You may ask why I was doing that? Simply a childish act to impress my colleague at work with the ability of my new CLS ride!
Lesson from the story, never drive on mismatched tires!
Nashua.
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Originally posted by TeamBlurryCL
common mistake of inexperienced drivers.
my guess is that you were on the brakes while making the turn, trying to slow down while making the turn. Big Mistake. Reason? to make a turn, your wheels have to be spinning. but since you were stepping on the brakes, your wheels stopped spinning . So, instead of the car moving in the direction of where the tire are pointed, your car lost grip and slid in the direction you were moving. in this case, straight. so basicly you had a better chance just turning the wheel hard and making the turn. yeah understeer is the biggest problem with most fwd cars.
common mistake of inexperienced drivers.
my guess is that you were on the brakes while making the turn, trying to slow down while making the turn. Big Mistake. Reason? to make a turn, your wheels have to be spinning. but since you were stepping on the brakes, your wheels stopped spinning . So, instead of the car moving in the direction of where the tire are pointed, your car lost grip and slid in the direction you were moving. in this case, straight. so basicly you had a better chance just turning the wheel hard and making the turn. yeah understeer is the biggest problem with most fwd cars.
So you think he got one without ABS, huh?
Dan
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lucky. last year i was making a u turn, and hit a huge patch of black ice there was nothing i could do hit the curb pretty hard and luckly no suspension damage, just fuked up rims
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Originally posted by TeamBlurryCL
common mistake of inexperienced drivers.
my guess is that you were on the brakes while making the turn, trying to slow down while making the turn. Big Mistake. Reason? to make a turn, your wheels have to be spinning. but since you were stepping on the brakes, your wheels stopped spinning. So, instead of the car moving in the direction of where the tire are pointed, your car lost grip and slid in the direction you were moving. in this case, straight. so basicly you had a better chance just turning the wheel hard and making the turn. yeah understeer is the biggest problem with most fwd cars.
common mistake of inexperienced drivers.
my guess is that you were on the brakes while making the turn, trying to slow down while making the turn. Big Mistake. Reason? to make a turn, your wheels have to be spinning. but since you were stepping on the brakes, your wheels stopped spinning. So, instead of the car moving in the direction of where the tire are pointed, your car lost grip and slid in the direction you were moving. in this case, straight. so basicly you had a better chance just turning the wheel hard and making the turn. yeah understeer is the biggest problem with most fwd cars.
Note: DO NOT take anyones work on braking. Find out for yourself and understand the techniques so you apply them properly so as not to damage your car or yourself.
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Originally posted by slyraskal
you had to buy new struts after doing 360's? why is that?
you had to buy new struts after doing 360's? why is that?
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TQ > MPG
It would take a serious f-up to make most fwd cars oversteer. The heavy front weight bias coupled with shitty tires makes the CL understeer quite a bit when really pushed. I did something similat with my taurus last winter. I threw it into a dark turn too fast, and hit a curb straight-on at like 45mph. I also bent both front wheels and popped one of the tires, but no suspension pieces were hurt. :o
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SAME EXACT THING HAPPENED IN MY OLD TL.
fucked up the rim BAD on the curb, and the tire blew on contact. fucking Tl tires are $225, can u believe that BS!? anyway, talk ab bad luck, it was the third flat i got in 2 weeks, ALL ON THE SAME WHEEL! i could have gotten a damn exhaust for the price of all those tires.
there were skidmarks all over the road, it was a blind banana turn that kept getting sharper, and i guess i took it too fast, and the car started to swerve all over the place. y friend lost control in his WRX, same speed, in the exact same spot a few months later.... but that doesnt quite mean our cars could handle just as well as WRXs. hehe
fucked up the rim BAD on the curb, and the tire blew on contact. fucking Tl tires are $225, can u believe that BS!? anyway, talk ab bad luck, it was the third flat i got in 2 weeks, ALL ON THE SAME WHEEL! i could have gotten a damn exhaust for the price of all those tires.
there were skidmarks all over the road, it was a blind banana turn that kept getting sharper, and i guess i took it too fast, and the car started to swerve all over the place. y friend lost control in his WRX, same speed, in the exact same spot a few months later.... but that doesnt quite mean our cars could handle just as well as WRXs. hehe
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