jl03CLS

I was heading back from downtown seattle at about 1 a.m. and i was in the carpool lane with a friend goin about 65. then i pass some mazda3 that kind of looked like that mazdaspeed version. anyways my friend starts staring at teh car and the mazda decides to start speeding off so i dropped it into 3rd and started going at it...i pulled on him and basically ended up going 120 before i cut off. the mazda was at least 10 cars behind me...must not have been the mazdaspeed...in hindsight that was kind of a stupid thing to do seeing how many cops are out on the interstate these days and how i had a passenger in the car ...but at least i can walk away with another win.

'01White3.2CL

nice run. i was wondering how we'd do against a mazdaspeed. i wish you were sure what it was. itd be a good race FWD vs. FWD when the speed3 has 280torque and 220Whp.

but again nice run.

CH46ESeaKnight

What highway were you on? I90,99, I5, or the 405. Just wondering. I used to live up there, and did my share of young and stupid on all thoes highways.

abouelmm

super waste of gas, time, effort...

jl03CLS

yeah i was bored and needed a little excitement on the way home. it seems like there were alot of cars speeding last night and it wasnt even after 2 oclock oh yeah I was on I5 northbound. worst place to go over 70 after 2 am cause of all the kids heading home from the clubs. It was fun though. anyone ever had a run with a mazdaspeed 3 or 6?

1BadCL-S

I did ran up the mazda speed when i had my 03 GTI 1.8T stock.. I am going tell u this. Those craps aint having chance to keep up with our CL-S trust me, Not even auto CL-S.

tommy020

You must be out of your mind man, if you are talking about a mazdaspeed 3, those things are turboed, and can run 13s stock.Your GTI its nothing compared to to mazdaspeed 3 speedwise

1BadCL-S

I know they are turbo, but i dunno if the driver of the one that i ran, is good. But i had him and kept pulling on him.

tommy020

Stock CL-S can't beat properly driven mazdaspeed3, not gonna happened

03_Type_S

My buddy just bought a Speed3. No way a stock CLS will beat it. They are too quick. All the advantages the CLS have the Speed3 have and are better. CLS may beat off line but that is about it. At least in my experiences.

However I went with my buddy to the 1/8th mile track last Friday. His best time was 9.33. But that took about 5 runs to get. I would run right with him even with his best time. I run a consistent 9.5-9.6.

Track and street vary thought and they def have edge in street if you ask me

03_Type_S

I am sure he could get it down to 9 flat range if we went back. And it was probably 60-65 degrees

underst8

I just raced a mazdaspeed 3 off the line the other day. I'm man enough to admit he took me, but he also knew how to shift.

03_Type_S

Yup they quick. I had a good start myself maybe pulled a 1/4th only to get dusted. And I think I am a good driver.

Mike

they're rated at 268hp and weigh less than 3200 lbs. no way we can hang w/a properly driven ms3.

rp_guy

basically the ms6 engine in the ms3 without awd.. they are torque limited in 1st.. and highly doubtful you will win unless you find one that is heat soaked

SERIOUS CL-S

I used to own a CL-S and now own a 08 MS3 and yeah, the CL-s has no chance if the driver of the MS3 can drive.

Two totally different cars though.

Accord_V6_400m

iTrader: (1)

Damn last time I saw one race they trapped at 96mph
Besides having to short shift the car, it hs great low and midrange power but its high end is proportionally much worse. Had guys with MS3's that were afraid to race me after destroying the MS6's out there, go figure.

LIPPSTUH

iTrader: (2)

i heard these were quick as hell... damn

i need that turbo

Sideswipe

I was expecting the story to be very short myself. There's nothing that Mazda makes in this day and age that could touch a CL-S.

Sideswipe

Normally aspirated only. Why go up against a supercharged or turboed with a normally aspirated car?

cbusAcuracls

08 M3's are normally aspirated...I would race that against alot of turboed/ supercharged cars.

All matters on tuning and overall type of car.
Turbo's and supercharged are overrated in my book.
Yes they can be tweaked alot better.. but 80% of the population doesn't know how to do that. All they hear is Turbo...and expect it to kill everything on the road.
Example my buddies 03 GTI turbo...killed it easily every day of the week.
same buddies 02 Audi TT...killed it even worse and our cars are not meant for "straight speed"

Sideswipe

An 08' M3 is in a totally different category. I was talking about racing the Turboed Mazda. The fact that it's an M3 is enough to get anyone's attention. Even though it's normally aspirated the Germans are known for putting out the must tunable cars on the planet. But you're shit out of luck with the electronics.

03_Type_S

That is what my buddy has. I would be foolish to not at least give him a run and see how it goes. I am going to have me headers soon and will let ya know what the verdict is then!

LIPPSTUH

iTrader: (2)

well turboed cars from factory or supercharged is one of the best things i've seen as a trend.

it helps with better mpg and a smaller motor... wut is the ms3? a 2.1 or 2.3? ours is a 3.2 liter engine.

same with the new 335, its turboed, easier to mod IMO. more modifications as well... then again i'm a noob when it comes to FI. i don't know my stuff so w/e

03_Type_S

Yes they are a turboed 2.3

TarzanCLS

iTrader: (1)

last night i raced a speed3 with intake and i had a full tank of gas (im auto and bone stock). we did a 20 roll and a 40 roll. he took me on the 20 roll by half a car at 80 ish and a car and a half at 110. the 40 roll was garbage, he killed me right off the honk and was at 2 cars at 80ish... they pull hard form a 40 because for that gear, the car stays in boost..i thought it was gonna be much worse...im actually happy how it turned out

03CLSMT

mmhhmm not bad for being stock and auto, his intake alone might have helped out a car length

TarzanCLS

iTrader: (1)

thanks. i just got the xs header and just finished wrapping it... should go in this weekend and we will see what happens next week!

03_Type_S

IF the Speed3 driver doesn't take it to redline expect those results to be a little worse. The Speed3 actually loses power in high rpms.

03CLSMT

I have never heard of anyone shifting before redline...? while racing of course

03_Type_S

You have never drove a MS3 then....they actually lose power after 6000RPM

DaInFaMMuS1

I woulda thought the CL-S would be able to keep up with a speed3 alot better than that, and actually maybe beat them. Maybe i need to drive one for myself

03_Type_S

Not stock. My buddy has intake only. We will see after I get headers...I got pushed back to this Saturday

GrandeInter10

i know it's not the same thing but i spanked a MS6 on the 5 earlier. dont know what you guys are talking about those things arent much trouble

MarbleGT

Co-worker has an 08 Speed3. I had an '01 CL (Comptech Headers, CatBack, Intake and UR Pullies).

I lost every time.

03_Type_S

Probably didn't want to waste his time. I am not bullshittin' those things are fast!!!

GrandeInter10

Yeah...that's why he gunned it when he heard me boost and couldnt catch up...that turbo sounded mean but it didn't seem to be spinnin fast enough!

LIPPSTUH

iTrader: (2)

so u're boosted already... bastard.

03_Type_S

I was referring to stock vs stock Of course boosted you'll win! Boost FTW!

Mike