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Old Sep 18, 2003 | 04:15 AM
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Cheap Hid's

Found a cheap place for hid's, it's where i got my 8500k bulbs from, figured i would share with you guys!http://www.globalpremier.com/
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Old Sep 18, 2003 | 04:29 AM
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8500k HID bulbs will be way too purple, comparing with stock 4100K D2R bulbs, also they are about half bright as the stock HID bulbs which IMO defeats the purpose of having HIDs.

OEM Philips D2S is 3200lm bright (+/-450lm) and 4100K colortemp (0.380x 0.390y). (For comparison)

Philips Ultinon D2S is 2400lm bright (+/-250lm) and 5800K colortemp (0.327X 0.312Y).

As you can see that 6000K Ultinons (people usually call them 6000K while they are actually rated at 5800K), only produces 75% of light comparing with OEM 4100K bulbs, therefore 8500K bulbs will be about half bright or less as the stock HIDs.

Don't get offended. just my 2 cents.
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Old Sep 18, 2003 | 08:50 AM
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Old Sep 18, 2003 | 09:34 AM
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Originally posted by wavesonic
8500k HID bulbs will be way too purple, comparing with stock 4100K D2R bulbs, also they are about half bright as the stock HID bulbs which IMO defeats the purpose of having HIDs.

OEM Philips D2S is 3200lm bright (+/-450lm) and 4100K colortemp (0.380x 0.390y). (For comparison)

Philips Ultinon D2S is 2400lm bright (+/-250lm) and 5800K colortemp (0.327X 0.312Y).

As you can see that 6000K Ultinons (people usually call them 6000K while they are actually rated at 5800K), only produces 75% of light comparing with OEM 4100K bulbs, therefore 8500K bulbs will be about half bright or less as the stock HIDs.

Don't get offended. just my 2 cents.
So then which are the brightest?
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Old Sep 18, 2003 | 09:49 AM
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So then which are the brightest?
OEM HID bulbs, which are rated at 4100K in color, and 3200lm in brightness!
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Old Sep 18, 2003 | 11:44 AM
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Re: Cheap Hid's

Originally posted by withoutcomp1
Found a cheap place for hid's, it's where i got my 8500k bulbs from, figured i would share with you guys!http://www.globalpremier.com/

da hell with the lights
I wanna see pics of your car...... got any????
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Old Sep 18, 2003 | 11:48 AM
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yeah, here you gopics
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Old Sep 18, 2003 | 11:55 AM
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yeah, here you gopics
Man, love your sounds system! How did u connect your computer? very tempting mod, do you have to shutdown the computer before u turn off the car or just leav it?
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Old Sep 18, 2003 | 11:57 AM
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the headliner looks sick, how di dyou do it?
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Old Sep 18, 2003 | 12:24 PM
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Thanks for the sight without. did you notice a dif, is it easyer to see than stock or worse, to me it would seem to be brighter.than stock since it 3500 lums, wich one is for our cars?
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Old Sep 18, 2003 | 12:38 PM
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Thanks for the sight without. did you notice a dif, is it easyer to see than stock or worse, to me it would seem to be brighter.than stock since it 3500 lums, wich one is for our cars?
Which bulb has 3500lums?
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Old Sep 18, 2003 | 12:54 PM
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which ones did you buy? do we need the just the bulbs? will the 9006 be the application to buy and replace my stock HID bulbs?
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Old Sep 18, 2003 | 12:59 PM
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Originally posted by withoutcomp1
yeah, here you gopics
Very nice work......
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Old Sep 18, 2003 | 02:32 PM
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I bought the 8500k bulbs , they are purple not blue, very nice though, in my opinion they are just as bright as stock
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Old Sep 18, 2003 | 02:40 PM
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which model though, do you get it for the 9005 or 9006?
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Old Sep 18, 2003 | 02:43 PM
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Do you have hid' s already? if so i got d2s bulbs, if you don't have hid's the low beam bulb is 9006
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Old Sep 18, 2003 | 02:56 PM
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oh I just need to get d2s bulbs? but I thought d2s was for projectors? I thought we needed d2r?
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Old Sep 18, 2003 | 03:00 PM
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got any pics of your 8000Ks at night? I'd liek to see how purple they really are... for $60 a pop it's not too bad.
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Old Sep 18, 2003 | 03:58 PM
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i will shoot some when i get the car back from the bodyshop, probally not till the end of next week, i am getting the versus kit installed and the car painted again.
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Old Sep 18, 2003 | 04:01 PM
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yeah you're right there is d2r in our cars from factory, i just wanted to experment, there is no differance to me
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Old Sep 18, 2003 | 09:28 PM
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Old Sep 19, 2003 | 02:09 PM
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Originally posted by wavesonic
Which bulb has 3500lums?

the 8000ks it says 3500 lm
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Old Sep 19, 2003 | 03:30 PM
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I just ordered a set of 8500's for my Civic.
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Old Sep 19, 2003 | 04:19 PM
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Cool, can't beat the price!
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Old Sep 19, 2003 | 06:53 PM
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Originally posted by wavesonic
OEM HID bulbs, which are rated at 4100K in color, and 3200lm in brightness!
THe 6000k kit says it's 3500lm. Wouldn't that be brighter than the 4100k/3200lm stock set?
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Old Sep 19, 2003 | 06:57 PM
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THe 6000k kit says it's 3500lm. Wouldn't that be brighter than the 4100k/3200lm stock set?
6000K is never rated at 3500lm, you can check out the PDF spec sheet on Philips Lighting website.

It is rated at 2400lm!
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Old Sep 19, 2003 | 07:57 PM
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Originally posted by wavesonic
6000K is never rated at 3500lm, you can check out the PDF spec sheet on Philips Lighting website.

It is rated at 2400lm!
http://www.globalpremier.com/9006hid.html

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Old Sep 20, 2003 | 04:11 AM
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Originally posted by chrisbpickering
http://www.globalpremier.com/9006hid.html

I can't believe you really trust those asian bulb maker's bs description.

Those are not even Philips bulbs, some cheap blue coating HID bulbs.

You can check out the following website to find out the real answer.

http://faq.auto.light.tripod.com

Hopefully that's gonna somehow convince you! And if 6000K bulbs are brighter than OEM bulbs, why don't dealers use 6000K by default instead?
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Old Sep 20, 2003 | 04:46 AM
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You know some people are so ungrateful, i try to help others out and wind up getting drilled by certain people, look i have had my bulbs for a few months and not one problem so if people want to by hid's at a good price let them buy em, one more thing i don't think BMW uses 4100k bulbs in their cars, do they?

OPINIONS ARE LIKE ASSHOLES EVERYONE HAS ONE!!!!!
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Old Sep 20, 2003 | 04:48 AM
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One more think dealers don't but in the hid's the Manufacturer does!
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Old Sep 20, 2003 | 05:01 AM
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You know some people are so ungrateful, i try to help others out and wind up getting drilled by certain people, look i have had my bulbs for a few months and not one problem so if people want to by hid's at a good price let them buy em, one more thing i don't think BMW uses 4100k bulbs in their cars, do they?

OPINIONS ARE LIKE ASSHOLES EVERYONE HAS ONE!!!!!
BMWs are exactly using 4100K bulbs like all the other manufactures using HIDs as you mentioned. The blue cue that illumates on road are the plasma effect from the projector like this:

The projector lens is like an magnifying glass which separate the light into several color band like what we learned in high school physics. That's why you see BMWs light are so colorful from different angle. From Purple-blue-white-yellow. But if u look close up the projector lens in person, u will realize that the bulb color are as yellowish-white as our HIDs. Because our HID low beams are reflectors, that's why we don't get the plasma effect as them!



The picture is a BMW X5 low beam pattern, as you can see the blue cue on top edge is what makes you think they are 6000K, but look at the road pattern part, they are just like our HID colors.

Even if u go to BMW dealship, and buy one of their D2S hid bulbs, they are Philips OEM 4100K. Philips only 6000K for aftermarket uses. So if you manage to retrofit the "BMW" bulbs into your CL, it won't make much difference in color beside it's brightness. D2S is brighter comparing with our D2Rs, but SAME COLOR!

Again Kelvin meansurements means color, not brightness, higher kelvin means less brightness.
You can get 20000K HID bulbs which shines black. and OEMs are Not using your 8500K bulbs. enouf said
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Old Sep 20, 2003 | 12:11 PM
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I was not doubting peolpes arguements here, just asking. I don't know anything about HIDs, and it seems the less expensive next mod for me (the other being pivot door hinges).
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Old Nov 12, 2003 | 11:07 AM
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old thread... but has anyone else ordered these?
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Old Nov 12, 2003 | 11:47 AM
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wavesonic,

Do you know why the HIDs on IS300 are whiter or brighter than ours? The HIDs on IS300 are just like ours - no projector.
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Old Nov 12, 2003 | 11:52 AM
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wavesonic,

Do you know why the HIDs on IS300 are whiter or brighter than ours? The HIDs on IS300 are just like ours - no projector.
IS300 use exactly same set up as ours, the question here is the number of hours usage of your HIDs.

HID bulbs usually have a burn-in period, when the bulbs are new, the first 100 hrs running time will be a bit yellowish, then it will start turning whiter. Also the distance you looking at the light is another factor too, with your headlight, you are staring at the light on the ground when u r sitting inside ur car. But if you walk away for about 50ft, u will notice that your headlights are not as yellow as you see when you were sitting in the car.
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Old Nov 12, 2003 | 11:58 AM
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What a sick car, almost makes me want to order prints.
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