Can We Run E85 Fuel In Our Cars?

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Old 12-21-2007, 01:05 PM
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Question Can We Run E85 Fuel In Our Cars?

I recently found a station near by that sells it at $2.40 a gallon, and its octane rating is 105. Would it be harmful if i switched to this?
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don't think so

E-85 ethanol is used in engines modified to accept higher concentrations of ethanol. Such flexible-fuel engines are designed to run on any mixture of gasoline or ethanol with up to 85% ethanol by volume. The primary differences from non-FFVs is the elimination of bare magnesium, aluminum, and rubber parts in the fuel system, the use of fuel pumps capable of operating with electrically conductive (ethanol) instead of non-conducting dielectric (gasoline) fuel, specially-coated wear-resistant engine parts, fuel injection control systems having a wider range of pulse widths (for injecting approximately 40% more fuel), the selection of stainless steel fuel lines (sometimes lined with plastic), the selection of stainless steel fuel tanks in place of terne fuel tanks, and, in some cases, the use of acid-neutralizing motor oil. For vehicles with fuel-tank mounted fuel pumps, additional differences to prevent arcing, as well as flame arrestors positioned in the tank's fill pipe, are also sometimes used.
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the gas we use has 10% ethanol in it.....grrrr
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Somewhere, I read we could, but you'll get decreased mileage.
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I wouldnt, i see a big decrease in mileage with gas with 10% in it. No way would i stick E85 in my car.
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i dont mind the loss of gas mileage. i just wanna keep the octane high and detonation away
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you can run E85 in any engine, as long as you make the necessary adjustment thats are required for it. I can't remember everything needed, but i recal my fuel's teacher talking about. I'm sure some research online and u can find out. question is it gonna be worth the money your gonna spend on custom order components?

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Originally Posted by New Image
i dont mind the loss of gas mileage. i just wanna keep the octane high and detonation away
Get a e-manage and a tune.
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Originally Posted by New Image
i dont mind the loss of gas mileage. i just wanna keep the octane high and detonation away
wouldn't that defeat the purpose of buying the cheaper e85 gas if you have to fill up more?
IMO...go buy some 93 premium...and some octane booster..
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Originally Posted by Alperovich
you can run E85 in any engine, as long as you make the necessary adjustment thats are required for it. I can't remember everything needed, but i recal my fuel's teacher talking about. I'm sure some research online and u can find out. question is it gonna be worth the money your gonna spend on custom order components?
Yes there are kits to upgrade your fuel system..but the money spent on the kit is not a practical reason to save 10 cents at the pump. If there is even a kit out there for us?????...probably would have to make a custom one. Kinda a big waste of time and money IMO.
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Originally Posted by cbusAcuracls
wouldn't that defeat the purpose of buying the cheaper e85 gas if you have to fill up more?
IMO...go buy some 93 premium...and some octane booster..
Octane booster doesn't raise octane by much. It raises it by .1 So his gas would go from 93 to 93.1 Also, from my understanding, it only works on 87 fuel anyways.

Go to Home Depot or Lowes, and get Toluene or Xylene. Both have an octane rating of 115. That's what I use for my nitrous. It's $15/gallon, but who cares, it's small money compared to what you're preventing.
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Originally Posted by cbusAcuracls
Yes there are kits to upgrade your fuel system..but the money spent on the kit is not a practical reason to save 10 cents at the pump. If there is even a kit out there for us?????...probably would have to make a custom one. Kinda a big waste of time and money IMO.
yup true that. i never said it wasn't pointless, i kinda ment to imply it thou
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Originally Posted by cbusAcuracls
wouldn't that defeat the purpose of buying the cheaper e85 gas if you have to fill up more?
IMO...go buy some 93 premium...and some octane booster..

i wasnt lookin to save money, looking to prevent detonation for the time being till i can find a good tuner
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Didn't you just put a blower in? With that setup I'd just spend my money on a piggyback, a tune, and 93.
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Originally Posted by Cocoa
Octane booster doesn't raise octane by much. It raises it by .1 So his gas would go from 93 to 93.1 Also, from my understanding, it only works on 87 fuel anyways.

Go to Home Depot or Lowes, and get Toluene or Xylene. Both have an octane rating of 115. That's what I use for my nitrous. It's $15/gallon, but who cares, it's small money compared to what you're preventing.
Just don't spill any on your hands or the ground.....that stuff is a carcinogen and EPA would have a fit.
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Originally Posted by underst8
Didn't you just put a blower in? With that setup I'd just spend my money on a piggyback, a tune, and 93.
ive been had a blower, i just put in a new motor

bleh, i was just curious, it dont bother me. seems like a hastle
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ah right doh.
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e85 where i am is about 60 cents cheaper per gallon. i've considered doing a half and half mix, but without any definitive answer on how safe it is to use a higher percentage of e85 in an engine not designed for it, i'm just going to stay away for now.
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You can't use E85 long term because of the unavoidable corrosion that would occur, the flex vehicles modif their fuel systems to prevent this from ocuring.

You'll get about half the fuel economy with I thinkit was either E85 or E100, either way at that cost, your only going to benfit from its higher octane which is great because at twice the cost to get the same fuel economy it will stil be less the $5 a gallon which is at least $1 cheaper then ordinary 100 octane gas.
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what if you filled half tank 93 half tank e85
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the main point here is to just not put e85 in ur tank... stick with 93 and octane booster and get on with it =)
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Originally Posted by vetalik
what if you filled half tank 93 half tank e85
Not sure, hard to say how much ethanol is safe in our vehicles, obviously up to 10% is alright since most gas here in So Cal has up to 10% of it.

It would work for a little bit, the problem is long term consequences. So go for it.
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Originally Posted by Soccer_playa1579
the main point here is to just not put e85 in ur tank... stick with 93 and octane booster and get on with it =)
1. gasoline contains 10% ethanol
2. octane booster is snake oil
3. a stock honda engine is designed for maximum efficiency on pump gas anyway
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Originally Posted by BustedS13
1. gasoline contains 10% ethanol up to 10%
2. octane booster is snake oil true
3. a stock honda engine is designed for maximum efficiency on pump gas anyway true
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