Buying E55 AMG from Houston -- FLOOD?
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Buying E55 AMG from Houston -- FLOOD?
Hey, found a 2001 E55 AMG at a Houston dealership for a relatively "EXCELLENT" price (compared to marked up and sales taxed prices here in California) ... but I recall HUGE floods during the summer there. I'm talking waters that could've been parted by Moses here.
Did the summer flood effect any of the local Houston dealerships in ANY way or form? Can anyone from the area or with knowledge about this issue reply here? I really need clarification!
I can have an appointment with a certified MB starmark but will this help? The carfax report came back clean and there's no flood damage reported ... but I'm worried that I'll be purchasing a Benz that was once submerged in 4 feet of water.
THANKS MUCH.
Did the summer flood effect any of the local Houston dealerships in ANY way or form? Can anyone from the area or with knowledge about this issue reply here? I really need clarification!
I can have an appointment with a certified MB starmark but will this help? The carfax report came back clean and there's no flood damage reported ... but I'm worried that I'll be purchasing a Benz that was once submerged in 4 feet of water.
THANKS MUCH.
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Word of caution with Carfax...
I ran my Accord through Carfax and it came out clean with no accidents. Well, that car had 2 accidents and both had police reports on them...
I ran my Accord through Carfax and it came out clean with no accidents. Well, that car had 2 accidents and both had police reports on them...
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If the price is too good to be true, then it probably is
Just think of the car like this, but with more water. This car had water in the dash, after 2+ more hours of rain. Smelled like burning electrics the next morning. It is an M5, btw.
Here is the interior of one stripped down. Look at all electrics that need to be replaced, I wouldn't want to fight potential gremlins.
this was in Houston, btw. I have uglier pics
Just think of the car like this, but with more water. This car had water in the dash, after 2+ more hours of rain. Smelled like burning electrics the next morning. It is an M5, btw.
Here is the interior of one stripped down. Look at all electrics that need to be replaced, I wouldn't want to fight potential gremlins.
this was in Houston, btw. I have uglier pics
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Originally posted by Eggplant-EX
Word of caution with Carfax...
I ran my Accord through Carfax and it came out clean with no accidents. Well, that car had 2 accidents and both had police reports on them...
Word of caution with Carfax...
I ran my Accord through Carfax and it came out clean with no accidents. Well, that car had 2 accidents and both had police reports on them...
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Damn, I was afraid of all this ...
If I take it to a certified MB dealer for a full inspection, will this suffice? What kind of direct or residual damage can occur with prolonged exposure (or rather, submersion) to flood waters?
Were car dealerships stricken by the waters? And in general, how did they deal with all this? I was just hoping that the lower price was due current economic woes and the introduction of 2002 models.
BTW, the price for the 2001 E55 AMG with under 20K miles is a tad bit over $55K ...
Thanks again for all your help.
If I take it to a certified MB dealer for a full inspection, will this suffice? What kind of direct or residual damage can occur with prolonged exposure (or rather, submersion) to flood waters?
Were car dealerships stricken by the waters? And in general, how did they deal with all this? I was just hoping that the lower price was due current economic woes and the introduction of 2002 models.
BTW, the price for the 2001 E55 AMG with under 20K miles is a tad bit over $55K ...
Thanks again for all your help.
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Damn, I was afraid of all this ...
If I take it to a certified MB dealer for a full inspection, will this suffice? What kind of direct or residual damage can occur with prolonged exposure (or rather, submersion) to flood waters?
Were car dealerships stricken by the waters? And in general, how did they deal with all this? I was just hoping that the lower price was due current economic woes and the introduction of 2002 models.
BTW, the price for the 2001 E55 AMG with under 20K miles is a tad bit over $55K ...
Thanks again for all your help.
Damn, I was afraid of all this ...
If I take it to a certified MB dealer for a full inspection, will this suffice? What kind of direct or residual damage can occur with prolonged exposure (or rather, submersion) to flood waters?
Were car dealerships stricken by the waters? And in general, how did they deal with all this? I was just hoping that the lower price was due current economic woes and the introduction of 2002 models.
BTW, the price for the 2001 E55 AMG with under 20K miles is a tad bit over $55K ...
Thanks again for all your help.
there are some flooded cars here for sale http://autosource-online.com/Photo_frame.htm
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Type S : you are wrong. I reported both accidents to the police and the car was repaired by Burien Honda, WA. Both bills were over $2K and paid by my insurance company...
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I would also consider if you'll ever be able to sell it; others that shop for a AMG would probably not even think about buying one that has had flood damage. Sooooo the overall cost of the car for you will be much higher. Now if the cost of the car was dirt cheap and you plan on keeping it then go for it.
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Originally posted by Eggplant-EX
Type S : you are wrong. I reported both accidents to the police and the car was repaired by Burien Honda, WA. Both bills were over $2K and paid by my insurance company...
Type S : you are wrong. I reported both accidents to the police and the car was repaired by Burien Honda, WA. Both bills were over $2K and paid by my insurance company...
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If the car checks out from the inspection, & they tell you it's fine, & carfax says nothing, & you get it from a real car dealer, then your covered. I wouldn't worry about it. Hey if it has problems, that's what a warranty is for. If it turns out to be a flooded car, then you can have legal action against the selling dealer, carfax, the MB inspection etc.
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Okay. I reread the post and I thought that Type S was saying that my car was fixed by a private party. I am guessing he means the Beemer and not my car....
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Just ask.
Legally they have to tell you.
Don't know if they will... but they should.
If they say some shit like "not that WE KNOW of" walk away.
Just ask.
Legally they have to tell you.
Don't know if they will... but they should.
If they say some shit like "not that WE KNOW of" walk away.
Salvage cars are fine, if you do your own work or have a shop you trust, and don't mind the risks involved.
I don't think there is such a thing as an "EXCELLENT" price on a MB AMG (in perfect form).
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Originally posted by Bluto
They have to tell you. It would be on the car's title as a salvage/flood.
They have to tell you. It would be on the car's title as a salvage/flood.
Not all states report this kind of history and it can be “lost” in the shuffle after several title transfers.
I would think a quality inspection at a certified MB dealer should know what to look for.
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If you are buying from a Mercedes dealer and it is a Certified pre-owned car, I would be comfortable buying the car from them.
Mercedes and Even Acura wont sell any car that has been in any accident as a certified pre-owned car, I doubt they would try to sell a flooded car as a certified pre-owned. Their checks are pretty extensive and thorough.
Mercedes and Even Acura wont sell any car that has been in any accident as a certified pre-owned car, I doubt they would try to sell a flooded car as a certified pre-owned. Their checks are pretty extensive and thorough.
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If the thing has 20K or over on the odometer for little over 55K, I believe that is reasonable...doesn't seem like a flood damaged car at that price, maybe if it was like 35-40K then it might, but sounds like a good deal to me...
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I have had some actual hands on tech experience with floded cars from Hurricane Andrew - my advice is to walk away.
Here is what we found. The flooding gets the wiring wet - after several months to as along as a year later, the connectors in the wiring harness and at sensors corrodes. Due to the relatively low voltages these sensors operate at, the corrosion adds resistance, and throws off the sensor readings by the computer. All sorts of driveability gremlins can pop up - idele problems, too rich, too lean, etc.
Here is what we found. The flooding gets the wiring wet - after several months to as along as a year later, the connectors in the wiring harness and at sensors corrodes. Due to the relatively low voltages these sensors operate at, the corrosion adds resistance, and throws off the sensor readings by the computer. All sorts of driveability gremlins can pop up - idele problems, too rich, too lean, etc.
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