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Old Dec 8, 2008 | 12:46 PM
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Buttefly valve

Searched. How many buttefly valves in CL-S dual-stage intake manifold?

Just want to double check there is only one, right? I know RL uses two buttefly valves Just curious when IMRC actuator engage does it open one buttefly valve or there two?
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Old Dec 8, 2008 | 02:24 PM
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I can see two IMRC plates in center chamber. But where is the buttefly valve?
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Old Dec 8, 2008 | 03:41 PM
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Just one.
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Old Dec 8, 2008 | 05:29 PM
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hey what he said ^

did not know the RL uses two. wonder why unless they open at diffrent times ??
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Old Dec 8, 2008 | 06:09 PM
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Cool thanks.

poisx7, I meant to say the new RL ('09) has dual butterfly valves.

Originally Posted by hondanews.com
The new 3.7L V-6 uses a dual-stage intake manifold that is designed to deliver maximum airflow to the cylinders across the full range of engine operating rpm. The 2-piece manifold is constructed of cast-magnesium to be very light. Within the manifold are two separate butterfly valves that are operated electrically by the engine's powertrain control module (PCM) to provide two distinct modes of operation via changing plenum volume and intake airflow routing.
Link - Acura Media Newsroom: 2009 Acura RL - Powertrain
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Old Dec 8, 2008 | 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by chirik
I can see two IMRC plates in center chamber. But where is the buttefly valve?
Those two plates you see are both on the same rod activated by the IMRC.
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Old Dec 12, 2008 | 12:24 PM
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I'd remove them... more airflow :-D
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Old Dec 12, 2008 | 01:53 PM
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I'd remove them... more airflow :-D

Then you loose low end TQ.

I drove with the IMRC pinned open for about a month before I bought a new IRMC control valve. Once I put it back in and un pinned it, I could tell a diff in low end. The car already suffers from low TQ, why would you want to make it worse?
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Old Dec 12, 2008 | 04:02 PM
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Yeah, but when you are at the strip I assume you are not below 5.5K RPM!?!
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Old Dec 12, 2008 | 06:01 PM
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Yeah, but when you are at the strip I assume you are not below 5.5K RPM!?!

True, true.
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Old Dec 12, 2008 | 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by CH46ESeaKnight
Then you loose low end TQ.

I drove with the IMRC pinned open for about a month before I bought a new IRMC control valve. Once I put it back in and un pinned it, I could tell a diff in low end. The car already suffers from low TQ, why would you want to make it worse?
add IM spacers gives you more torque
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Old Dec 12, 2008 | 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by SIRSIG
add IM spacers gives you more torque
Are you talking about something like the 1/4 inch spacer from outlaw or P2R?
For the intake runner?
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Old Dec 13, 2008 | 12:38 AM
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232 lb/ft from 3.5k to vtec is quite a bit of torque. especially for a honda engine.
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