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Old Feb 6, 2005 | 12:39 PM
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Brake squeak

I finally got my Rotora rotors in and installed them with Axxis pads. Car ran fine for a few miles and then I got this horrendous screach everytime I pressed the brakes (seemed to be from the left-side). So I removed everything and re-assembled with ample amounts of anti-squeak on the back-side of the pads.... the sound is still there! I can't see any blatant scratches or anything - any ideas?
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Old Feb 6, 2005 | 01:05 PM
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did you bed/break them in properly?
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Old Feb 6, 2005 | 01:05 PM
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I finally got my Rotora rotors in and installed them with Axxis pads. Car ran fine for a few miles and then I got this horrendous screach everytime I pressed the brakes (seemed to be from the left-side). So I removed everything and re-assembled with ample amounts of anti-squeak on the back-side of the pads.... the sound is still there! I can't see any blatant scratches or anything - any ideas?
did you clean the rotors before installing?
Can you see any brake fluid leaking?
Did you get any brake fluid on anything during the install?
Do the pads fit "right"?
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Old Feb 6, 2005 | 01:36 PM
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Okay... after some trouble-shooting, I have come to the conclusion that I am an idiot!

The squeak or screech is from my rear brake indicators!!!! What is the probability that my rear brakes would touch the indicator the same day I install front rotors/pads?!?!

After two brake removal/installation... now I have to do the rear ones as well
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Old Feb 6, 2005 | 01:42 PM
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d'oh!
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Old Feb 6, 2005 | 01:43 PM
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just wait for the group buy that Excelerate is going to do.
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Old Feb 6, 2005 | 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by allmotor_2000
Okay... after some trouble-shooting, I have come to the conclusion that I am an idiot!

The squeak or screech is from my rear brake indicators!!!! What is the probability that my rear brakes would touch the indicator the same day I install front rotors/pads?!?!

After two brake removal/installation... now I have to do the rear ones as well
at least you figured it out
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Old Feb 7, 2005 | 01:54 AM
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brake squeak as if the pads are fading are normal from the axis ultimate pads, and a lot of brake dust. Me and two of my other friends have the pads on and we all squeak while on the brake but we all stop really well
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Old Feb 7, 2005 | 02:21 AM
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Besides the BBK, what is ultimate brake set (rotors and pads) would you recommend?
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Old Feb 7, 2005 | 03:45 AM
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Originally Posted by 02AV6
Besides the BBK, what is ultimate brake set (rotors and pads) would you recommend?
The BBK-Rotora is what I have on my car with the Axxis pads they are amazingly good. I've heard really good reports on the "green stuff" pads(EBC???) as well. They apparently give of less dust then the Axxis and perform just as good.

allmotor: Glad to hear you got to the root cause. If you're going to do the rears Rotora now does a slotted rear rotor. I put that on with the Axxis as well.
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Old Feb 7, 2005 | 11:45 AM
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i can't see how your rear brakes could be worn out.


my car has 61K on the original rear brakes and they still have a lot of life left.
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Old Feb 7, 2005 | 01:10 PM
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i can't see how your rear brakes could be worn out.


my car has 61K on the original rear brakes and they still have a lot of life left.
you must drive like a :killer:
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Old Feb 7, 2005 | 02:14 PM
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Just a "thumbs up" for the EBC Greenstuff pads.... with Comptech cross-drilled rotors, installed by Jens at PAA, never a hint of squeal - ever.....stopping power is much increased
and dust is insignificant compared to stock linings....Best of luck!
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Old Feb 7, 2005 | 02:44 PM
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Your rotors will squeak a little when coming to a complete stop b/c the Axxis Ultimate brake pad is part Kevlar and part Ceramic. Honda uses only ceramic pads so the add materials int he Axxis pads cause the slight squeaking you will here. Also, Axxis Ultimates will shed a decent amount of dust whereas EBC pads shed less dust. IMO, though, the bite of the Axxis Ultimate pads on the rotor is well worth it. The car brakes ten times better with the ROTORA rotors and Axxis pads.

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Old Feb 7, 2005 | 02:55 PM
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The sound I hear is not a squeak... its a very loud screech. I originally could not isolate the sound as I automatically assumed it was coming from the new install. Now, after sticking my head out and driving etc., it appears to come from the rear. I checked my pads on the back (just through the wheel) and they are pretty worn. I'll replace them and see what hapens. The screeching is very loud and annoying!
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Old Feb 7, 2005 | 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by JaredGMS
you must drive like a :killer:



i only have like 125 runs at the drag strip in this car.
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Old Feb 7, 2005 | 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by JaredGMS
you must drive like a :killer:

Only if that :killer: is Richard Petty.

MattG is definitely not a guy shy on the throttle. Most :killer: I know don't run nitrous.
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Old Feb 7, 2005 | 04:40 PM
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allmotor, it very well could be the rear brake indicator. just get some axxis pads for the rear and youll be fine. also, unless you want the cosmetics of the rear to match the front, i would recommend you keep the rear rotors stock! the rear rotors are nearly impossible to destroy!
on the plus side, it is ridiculously easy to change the rear pads!
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Old Feb 8, 2005 | 01:03 AM
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Originally Posted by 02AV6
Besides the BBK, what is ultimate brake set (rotors and pads) would you recommend?
I think endless pads with slotted/drilled rotors and stainless cables. This was my setup before my current brake system. I think the money though spen ton the first system was a waste and should have been saved to my ultimate purchase. These cars are severely under braked and if you add more power you need more brakin gpower.
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Old Feb 8, 2005 | 10:40 PM
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Okay... I installed the rear pads and all squeaks are gone!! Now I need to get back to the other project while no one notices!
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Old Feb 10, 2005 | 01:35 PM
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So, I have broken in all the brakes now and decided to do some hard-stops... wow! The difference is pretty big between the stock setup and my current setup. I have rotora slotted w/Axxis pads up front and completely stock in the rear.

No fade (so far) and very good stopping power!
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Old Feb 11, 2005 | 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by allmotor_2000
Okay... I installed the rear pads and all squeaks are gone!! Now I need to get back to the other project while no one notices!
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Old Feb 11, 2005 | 10:00 AM
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I did a hard stop from about 120 to 60 with 5 people in my car last weekend....brakes didn't like that at all.
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Old Feb 11, 2005 | 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by allmotor_2000
So, I have broken in all the brakes now and decided to do some hard-stops... wow! The difference is pretty big between the stock setup and my current setup. I have rotora slotted w/Axxis pads up front and completely stock in the rear.

No fade (so far) and very good stopping power!
i have the rotora f/r with cermics ...no dust and the best stopping ive ever seen...i almost launched a passenger in the rear seat through the windshield
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Old Feb 11, 2005 | 06:04 PM
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Wow, I can't imagine that you had, have, all that horsepower with the stock brakes.
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Old Feb 11, 2005 | 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by allmotor_2000
So, I have broken in all the brakes now and decided to do some hard-stops... wow! The difference is pretty big between the stock setup and my current setup. I have rotora slotted w/Axxis pads up front and completely stock in the rear.

No fade (so far) and very good stopping power!
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