Axxis Ultimates vs. Metal Masters vs. Deluxe brake pads

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Old 07-09-2004, 10:50 PM
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Axxis Ultimates vs. Metal Masters vs. Deluxe brake pads

Which pads are the best in your opinions,

Ultimates, Metal Masters or the Deluxe ones?

I am looking for good performance (much better than stock), less brake dust than the stock pads and I would like to get more life from the aftermarket pads.

I have already decided on the Rotora slotted rotors. Thanks for all the help.
Old 07-09-2004, 11:44 PM
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Any inputs? For those of you with the Ultimates, is there less brake dust than the stock pads?
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I'm not sure you'll find any pads that produce less dust. The stock pads are pretty good in that respect, imo.

I have Metal Masters up front, and they produce quite a bit more dust than the stocks. It requires more frequent cleaning of the lip on my rims, but it's worth it, imo.

I've heard that Ultimates are not really necessary for our cars, as they are more of a track pad.
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Deluxe

On my old 90 Legend Coupe, I ran Repco (now Axxis/PBR) Deluxe for over 100k miles (on 2 sets). These made much less dust than stock pads and weren't as aggressive on the discs as MetalMasters, which was the only (?) other choice back then. When I need pads again for my 2001 CL-S, I would like to get the same Deluxe pads, as I was very satisfied with them.
By the way, the stock discs suck. I got the dealer to replace the fronts under warranty (I paid $55 for pads) and now the new set is warping. As with my old Legend, I think I'll have to get Brembos again...
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If you want LESS brake dust than stock DO NOT GET the metal masters!!!!
They are create massive amounts of brake dust. I have them on my car with
the comptech x-drilled rotors. They are awesome for stopping your car, the
brake dust is outta control. I usually wash my car just before we do a twisty
run up in Sac. By the time we are done, my chrome wheels are red. Good
thing I got chrome rims, cause it just wipes off.
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I'm running with metal masters and Comptech cross-drilled rotors on the rear with the Brembo front BBK. Haven't noticed that much brake dust yet cause I haven't done any serious braking yet.
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Originally Posted by AztecRol
If you want LESS brake dust than stock DO NOT GET the metal masters!!!!
They are create massive amounts of brake dust. I have them on my car with
the comptech x-drilled rotors. They are awesome for stopping your car, the
brake dust is outta control. I usually wash my car just before we do a twisty
run up in Sac. By the time we are done, my chrome wheels are red. Good
thing I got chrome rims, cause it just wipes off.

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Originally Posted by AztecRol
If you want LESS brake dust than stock DO NOT GET the metal masters!!!!
They are create massive amounts of brake dust. I have them on my car with
the comptech x-drilled rotors. They are awesome for stopping your car, the
brake dust is outta control. I usually wash my car just before we do a twisty
run up in Sac. By the time we are done, my chrome wheels are red. Good
thing I got chrome rims, cause it just wipes off.
So will I be better off going with the Ultimates? The reason I ask is because I have a machined lipped rim (ASA AR1's) and they already collect brake dust easily on the lip.

For the folks that have the Ultimate pads, do they leave less brake dust than the stock pads?

Thanks for the input.
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Originally Posted by Nofear6370
So will I be better off going with the Ultimates? The reason I ask is because I have a machined lipped rim (ASA AR1's) and they already collect brake dust easily on the lip.

For the folks that have the Ultimate pads, do they leave less brake dust than the stock pads?

Thanks for the input.

No,, a lot more than stock,,, I drive 500 miles per week (mostly highway) and need to (but don't) clean them every week. I clean them about once a month. Still a lot better braking than stock so I put up with it.
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Originally Posted by Nofear6370
So will I be better off going with the Ultimates? The reason I ask is because I have a machined lipped rim (ASA AR1's) and they already collect brake dust easily on the lip.

For the folks that have the Ultimate pads, do they leave less brake dust than the stock pads?

Thanks for the input.
If you want less dust than the stock pads go with the Axxis Deluxe Plus pads. This is what I used with my Rotrora slotted. Better stopping than with with OEM pads with no dust.
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I asked the sales manager from ROTORA about the differences of these pads. He said that he did not recommend putting the Deluxes on our car because it is inferior in quality to the Ultimates. He said that the Deluxes are more organic and do not offer as much performance. Either way it's up to you. He also said the dust emitted by the Ultimates should be low and the dust shed should be non-sticky so it is easily wiped off.
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thanks I will go ahead and order the Ultimates with my Rotora order. Thanks for all the info guys.
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Well, if you've already ordered the Ultimates, this post won't be of any assistance to you.
But, the link takes you to a comparison of the different Axxis brake pads in a number of categories:

Axxis Brake Pad Comparison Charts
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