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Old Aug 5, 2001 | 02:32 AM
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I noticed that in your sig it says you ran your 1/4 mile at Sears Point Raceway. Where in the Bay Area are you located?? Cause I'm going back up to school in three weeks and I would love to run against you so I could put you and your CL in it's place!!!!
I've noticed that half of your posts on this forum involve some sort of sh$t talking towards S4s. So I'll be up at school at the end of the month, let me know if you want to run sometime.....
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Old Aug 5, 2001 | 02:37 AM
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Go Moon go! Better get that n20 kit asap too!
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Old Aug 5, 2001 | 02:38 AM
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BTW...I do respect the CL Type S as a nice/fast car, especially for the price. But let's get real, it just can't run with a well-driven S4, especially a chipped one.

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Old Aug 5, 2001 | 02:40 AM
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Moo, you have to be the most hated guy over on the audi boards.
You need to change your personal title to "Bringer of Trolls"
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Old Aug 5, 2001 | 05:33 AM
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Chipped S4 vs. Fully Modded CLS...

I wouldn't want to lose my money on the CLS for sure...Go S4!
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Old Aug 5, 2001 | 10:13 AM
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Originally posted by DominicanS4:
<STRONG>I noticed that in your sig it says you ran your 1/4 mile at Sears Point Raceway. Where in the Bay Area are you located?? Cause I'm going back up to school in three weeks and I would love to run against you so I could put you and your CL in it's place!!!!
I've noticed that half of your posts on this forum involve some sort of sh$t talking towards S4s. So I'll be up at school at the end of the month, let me know if you want to run sometime.....</STRONG>
I notice you live in Beverly Hills so I'm just wondering if you bought the S4 and all the upgrades your self. I doubt you did but i'll at least ask you...
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Old Aug 5, 2001 | 03:31 PM
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I notice you live in Beverly Hills so I'm just wondering if you bought the S4 and all the upgrades your self. I doubt you did but i'll at least ask you...
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For the record...I DID NOT pay for my S4 myself. MY PARENTS got it for me, I am only 19. I don't really see what this has to do with the topic I posted though. The fact that my parents bought me the car doesn't make it any slower.
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Old Aug 5, 2001 | 03:39 PM
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Hey, don't you have any concerns about the chipped engine voiding the warranty, as there has been alot of conversation about the stress it puts on the motor. (additional 50+ HP and increased boost!)
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Old Aug 5, 2001 | 03:53 PM
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<STRONG>Hey, don't you have any concerns about the chipped engine voiding the warranty, as there has been alot of conversation about the stress it puts on the motor. (additional 50+ HP and increased boost!)</STRONG>
Yes, that is a concern of mine. However, from the posts I've read on this forum is appears that people think that chipping an S4 is like a death sentence for the turbos/engine. This is not the case. It's obviously undisputable that the chip works the engine and turbos harder, but it is still well within the limits of the engine. The S4 engine in stock form is VERY restricted. And as far as the warranty, I remove the chip and switch it with the stock one, then clear any fault codes with a VAG Tool. So when I take the car in for service, it's stock.
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Old Aug 5, 2001 | 04:15 PM
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Originally posted by DominicanS4:
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Yes, that is a concern of mine. However, from the posts I've read on this forum is appears that people think that chipping an S4 is like a death sentence for the turbos/engine. This is not the case. It's obviously undisputable that the chip works the engine and turbos harder, but it is still well within the limits of the engine. The S4 engine in stock form is VERY restricted. And as far as the warranty, I remove the chip and switch it with the stock one, then clear any fault codes with a VAG Tool. So when I take the car in for service, it's stock.
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Isn't it a reprogrammed ECU like ours, or is it acually a "plug-in" style chip?
Also, what is a VAG Tool?

Damn, I'd like to ride in it sometime - I bet it HAULS ASS!!! How fast is it 0-60 and 1/4 mile???
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Old Aug 5, 2001 | 04:30 PM
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It is plug and play as long as you buy the spare ECU. VAG tool emulates the dealer diagnostic so you can erase any trace of chipping. Here are links to scanned road tests for a chipped S4. For the lazy folk, 0-60 4.8 secs, 0-100 just over 11 secs. Yes, that is a sniff faster than the e46 M3.

http://www.audiworld.com/forum/m/s4/msgs/106433.phtml

http://www.audiworld.com/forum/m/s4/msgs/106435.phtml

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Old Aug 5, 2001 | 04:32 PM
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Originally posted by Ogolden1:
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Isn't it a reprogrammed ECU like ours, or is it acually a "plug-in" style chip?
Also, what is a VAG Tool?

Damn, I'd like to ride in it sometime - I bet it HAULS ASS!!! How fast is it 0-60 and 1/4 mile???</STRONG>
It's not a reprogrammed ECU. Whichever company you choose to chip with (I chose ABT) soders (sp?) their chip onto the stock ECU. What I did, and what most people do is purchase a spare S4 ECU for $500 and have the chip sodered onto that one so you can keep your original ECU stock for when you have to take it in to the dealer. Chipped S4s with exhaust can run 4.8-4.9 0-60s and I have seen timeslips for a 13.1 1/4 mile, however there have been claims of 12.9 and I think I've seen one timeslip with a 13.08 1/4 mile. It's damn fast....330 HP and 370 ft/lbs of torque to slam you into your seat.

Oh yeah, a "VAG tool" is the diagnostic tool used by the service techs to diagnose problems that have been registered by the ECU. It also performs lots of other functions like recoding settings on the car and stuff, it's pretty cool...costs $200 for the software and hardware.

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Old Aug 5, 2001 | 04:34 PM
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Thanks for the info!

It seems that you wouldn't need a VAG tool since you are just going to swap back to the original ECU, when you take it to the dealer for service. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the DTC would be coming from that stock ECU, right?

BTW: AudiAce, your links are too blurry to read!

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Old Aug 5, 2001 | 09:16 PM
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where is moon?
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Old Aug 6, 2001 | 02:46 AM
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<STRONG>where is moon? </STRONG>
Moon, you still here?
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Old Aug 6, 2001 | 01:17 PM
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I dunno where moon is, but if he doesn't show up ill be willing to take you on! But not at Sears Point Raceway...ill take you on while your hear in LA. Your car is slow, and I will rape it with a blind fold on! I've seen your car around, and your intake sounds like your carrying a dead dog around in the engine bay! What now punk? Let me know when you wanna run!

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Old Aug 6, 2001 | 01:40 PM
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Moon, you still here?</STRONG>
still early west coast time...
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Old Aug 6, 2001 | 01:45 PM
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Originally posted by DominicanS4:
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For the record...I DID NOT pay for my S4 myself. MY PARENTS got it for me, I am only 19. I don't really see what this has to do with the topic I posted though. The fact that my parents bought me the car doesn't make it any slower.</STRONG>
Well this is what I mean. The NIRA racer Christian Rado. One of the best on the circuit with undoubtably the fastest car. How does he have such fast cars, nice trailers, and the best mecahnics. His daddy, yes his daddy owns World Electronics and has given him all the money to become the best and this wouldnt have been possible without his dad cuz he's only 20's. He has some sponsors but they dont do jack. I hope you undertstand.
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Old Aug 6, 2001 | 03:12 PM
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I'm here....I'm more than willing to race you...
Just tell me when...in fact, I'll be at Sacto Raceway this weekend for the NHRA Import race...why don't you head up?
FYI, I have not said anything about a MODDED S4....I have said that I can beat a STOCK S4...but whatever...bring it on...
Even 4drAssasin will back me on this one...
If you can't come to Sac...tell me when you wanna go to Sears Point...so, we can run on a Wednesday...let's see...the end of the month works for me if you can get that Wednesday off...the 29th?
BTW, since I am the underdog...what happens if I win??? I probably won't...but what if???

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Old Aug 6, 2001 | 03:13 PM
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Old Aug 6, 2001 | 03:16 PM
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BTW, since I am the underdog...what happens if I win??? I probably won't...but what if???Moomaster99
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Old Aug 6, 2001 | 03:17 PM
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Originally posted by 4thGSi:
<STRONG> He will treat you in a nice restaurant and you will get your respect </STRONG>
Hehehe....okay...I guess that's enough...
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Old Aug 6, 2001 | 03:19 PM
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Originally posted by moomaster_99:
<STRONG>BTW, since I am the underdog...what happens if I win??? I probably won't...but what if???

[ 08-06-2001: Message edited by: moomaster_99 ]</STRONG>
**cough cough** **super-charger, super-charger** **cough cough**
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Old Aug 6, 2001 | 03:22 PM
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Originally posted by Cee eL eS:
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**cough cough** **super-charger, super-charger** **cough cough** </STRONG>
**NOS**...**NOS**...**NEW WHEELS**...
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Old Aug 6, 2001 | 03:24 PM
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<STRONG> He will treat you in a nice restaurant and you will get your respect </STRONG>

Don't you mean HIS PARENTS will!!!


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Old Aug 6, 2001 | 03:26 PM
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Originally posted by Pele77:
<STRONG>I dunno where moon is, but if he doesn't show up ill be willing to take you on! But not at Sears Point Raceway...ill take you on while your hear in LA. Your car is slow, and I will rape it with a blind fold on! I've seen your car around, and your intake sounds like your carrying a dead dog around in the engine bay! What now punk? Let me know when you wanna run!

*~SHANE~*</STRONG>
HA!!!! That's a good one Shane. Right after your done washing that dirty POS come over so I can rip that car a new A$$HOLE!!! I'll smoke you like BAAAAA!!!!!!

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<STRONG>**NOS**...**NOS**...**NEW WHEELS**... </STRONG>
**Didi**...**Didi**...
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Old Aug 6, 2001 | 03:29 PM
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Originally posted by Cee eL eS:
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**Didi**...**Didi**... </STRONG>
Sup Dominican!?! We running or what??? I'm down...more than happy for a friendly race...but you wanna make a side bet that my friend's Galant can rip YOUR 40K car a new asshole??? C'mon...it's fair...both of you have turbo AWD!!
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Old Aug 6, 2001 | 03:29 PM
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Originally posted by Bluto:
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Don't you mean HIS PARENTS will!!!


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ROTFLMAO

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Old Aug 6, 2001 | 03:30 PM
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Originally posted by Bluto:
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Don't you mean HIS PARENTS will!!!


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Speaking of parents....I took your MOM out last night, she liked my S4...the backseat that is!!

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Old Aug 6, 2001 | 03:33 PM
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Originally posted by moomaster_99:
<STRONG>I'm here....I'm more than willing to race you...
Just tell me when...in fact, I'll be at Sacto Raceway this weekend for the NHRA Import race...why don't you head up?
FYI, I have not said anything about a MODDED S4....I have said that I can beat a STOCK S4...but whatever...bring it on...
Even 4drAssasin will back me on this one...
If you can't come to Sac...tell me when you wanna go to Sears Point...so, we can run on a Wednesday...let's see...the end of the month works for me if you can get that Wednesday off...the 29th?
BTW, since I am the underdog...what happens if I win??? I probably won't...but what if???

[ 08-06-2001: Message edited by: moomaster_99 ]</STRONG>
I don't know where Satco is but Sears Point on the 29th sounds good to me. I don't want you to think that this is some sort of trash talking war I'm trying to start. I just want you to see what a chipped S4 can really do, at a track. BTW, where in the Bay Area are you, do you guys have CLS meets up there?
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Old Aug 6, 2001 | 03:33 PM
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Take out the chip and spank him stock.
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Old Aug 6, 2001 | 03:36 PM
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Originally posted by AudiAce:
<STRONG>Take out the chip and spank him stock.</STRONG>
....not until he gets some lessons at the track....
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Old Aug 6, 2001 | 03:38 PM
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Originally posted by DominicanS4:
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I don't know where Satco is but Sears Point on the 29th sounds good to me. I don't want you to think that this is some sort of trash talking war I'm trying to start. I just want you to see what a chipped S4 can really do, at a track. BTW, where in the Bay Area are you, do you guys have CLS meets up there?</STRONG>
Naw...no problem...it'll be cool...than we can see what your car does run though...I live in SF. Yes...we just had a meet a couple of weeks ago...just missed it...we're gonna have one more sometime this summer...hopefully, before labor day...have you run your car at the track yet?
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Old Aug 6, 2001 | 03:43 PM
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Originally posted by DominicanS4:
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HA!!!! That's a good one Shane. Right after your done washing that dirty POS come over so I can rip that car a new A$$HOLE!!! I'll smoke you like BAAAAA!!!!!!

[ 08-06-2001: Message edited by: DominicanS4 ]</STRONG>
Evan, Ill take you on right after your Beaner ass comes and cleans my car for me! And then I will steal your keys and drive your shit into a wall! Your clear bra wont do shit for it then!!! I actually want moon to rip you a new asshole, and then you wont talk down to CL type S's anymore! Right after he does it, I will do it too! Go Moon Go Moon!!!! :p :p :p :p :p :p

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Old Aug 6, 2001 | 03:48 PM
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Originally posted by Pele77:
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You're right man....my car is such a piece of shit. The only reason I got was cause the S4 was too much. I would seriously need a rocket attatched to the back of my car just to keep up. Go smoke that moon guy and then can I please drive your car??</STRONG>
....no flame on you Dominican...but all this talk is gonna look bad if you haven't taken your car to the track before...
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Old Aug 6, 2001 | 03:49 PM
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Originally posted by moomaster_99:
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Naw...no problem...it'll be cool...than we can see what your car does run though...I live in SF. Yes...we just had a meet a couple of weeks ago...just missed it...we're gonna have one more sometime this summer...hopefully, before labor day...have you run your car at the track yet?</STRONG>
Haven't run at a track yet. It'll be a learning experience....for both of us.

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Old Aug 6, 2001 | 03:50 PM
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Originally posted by DominicanS4:
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Haven't run at a track yet. It'll be a learning experience....for both of us.

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Cool....those guys on Audi world been telling you how to launch your car yet?
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Old Aug 6, 2001 | 03:58 PM
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Originally posted by moomaster_99:
<STRONG> ....no flame on you Dominican...but all this talk is gonna look bad if you haven't taken your car to the track before...</STRONG>
Why is that?? I've never raced a CLS on a track, but my friend Pele77 has one with more mods then yours and I've smoked him plenty of times...from a stoplight, from a roll, you name it. It'll be the same at a track, just more people to witness it. No flame BTW.
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Old Aug 6, 2001 | 04:00 PM
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