so as the subject says i got beaten by my friend and his type-R... he's got a CAI, while i have headers

anyways he beat me by a car length, got a jump on me off the line and we went up to bout 100 mph, and i stayed bout 1 car length behind the whole way. no one sped up on anyone else after the line...

now heres what he did, he sport shifted (not letting off the gas while switching gears) and i had it in d4 with vsa off

THE BIG PROB IS... i just got my car back from an accident that left the whole front end messed up (but no engine damage) SO IM WONDERING... do you think the race was pretty fair, since my friend knows how to shift his car w/o letting off the gas, OR do you think it woulda been close but i have leaky headers

after the accident what parts can be retorqued or whatever to make sure there's no loss in hp? anything besides headers? the down pipe? and is all hope gone, and i lost the hp cause of the accident? thanks for any info

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'01 cl type-S black/black
mods (in order):
35% neutral smoke tint... cleared out headlights replaced with polarg m-14's and piaa 19169's... piaa 19169's in roadlamps, doorlights, maplights, trunk light, license plate light... mini-max hyperwhite domelight... comptech headers, springs, swaybars, and drop-in filter... infinity basslink subwoofer

 

if your friend is a really good driver then it's possible. My buddy ran a 14.6 in his bone stock type R, he drives real real good.

 

This could go either way. I wouldn't be surprised at all if a Type R with CAI could take a CL-S with headers. I mean... 1 car length from 0-100 is not a helluva lot especially since you said he got that car during the launch. You may have an exhaust leak, but I bet it's not a very bad one if you do.

just my .02

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2001 Acura 3.2CL Type S
Comptech Springs
Comptech Sway Bars
Comptech Headers
AEM CAI
PIAA 19169

 

It's very possible...any guy who is a real real good driver can push their car to the limits.

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2001 Cl-S Black on Black with Navigation
Black Tint all around (15%~45%)
Weapon-R Dragon Filter
Weapon-R Coil-Overs
Koni Adjustable Struts
Comptech Sway Bars
Comptech Headers (hehehe...I got something for you drchang!!)

 

That's nothing to get your head down on. That is what will always happen when you go against cars that are as qucik and can launch better than ours. They get a lead off the launch and it's next to impossible to make up. I lost to a Civic Si this weekend. But he was running 7 lbs of boost. I killed him off the line and had a car car and a half on him to 65, 70. After that he like totally blew me away. Made up the lead and got a car on me. Kinda weird, maybe he's squeezing.

 

theres nothing wrong with your car, your friend is a good driver.

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2001 CL-S
Black/Black
Moonroof Visor
35% Tint All Around
Black Wood Dash Kit
Currently on TL rims with Nokian Winter Tires
My Bitch

 

I met a guy tonight with an ITR with all the mods including lightweight wheels and no backseat with rollcage etc. and the best he ever pulled was 14.8 at the track. You should be right there with an ITR at worst.

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Black/black CLS
Comptech headers, springs, swaybars
Koni yellows
Polarg M6 road lamps
Solaris Hi beams
Potenza RE730 225/45/17
Red AEM CAI
Denso Iridium plugs
35% metallic tint

 

I say you make a few more runs and see if the results are consistant, seems to me that it could go either way.

 

How did you launch? Brake torque at all? Get a CAI and you should be much closer with a good launch.

 

I like the old Chuck Yeager comment about a give a good pilot any plane *and* he will beat the rookie in the newer/faster/more maneuverable one.

If your buddy is shifting like you say, and has a few "goodies" in the car, he can beat you.

BTW -- if your really concerned about the headers, you could have the torque checked without too much trouble.

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Silver 2001 CL-S with NAVI

• Mud guards
• Wheel locks
• Toyo T1S 235/45ZR17-97W* Proxies on 17x8" SSR Competition wheels (48lbs less than stock)
• Kevlar/SS Brake lines w/Brembos?
• Comptech headers & sways
• Silver AEM CAI
• 9 coats of Zaino magic

 

Did you get much wheel spin when you launched? Try to brake torque off the line(1500 to 2000rpms) and shift d1>d2>d3....

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2001 Silver 3.2CLS
Muds, Spoiler, Hardwire 8500, Polarg M-6 lamps, K&N filter #33-2178,
Comptech Headers, Sways, mufflers
Planning: SSR 17X8 Competition Wheels, Brembo Brakes.

 

Isn't the type R slower than our stock S? Poobah some help please? I have raced my friends and it is close (I win) but with headers this should be an easy win. Take a look at the movie section, I was there with the stock cl vs the mod (cai and headers) and the moded Type R vs the mod CLS.

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Silver S
Black Xephyr Intake
Valentine 1 (Hard wired)

 

I have three words about the Type R:

"Limited Slip Differential"

that's exactly why he pulled on you from the start. it's also why the M3 takes of like a moe-foe when you gun it. after that, in terms of torque/power feel it's identical to the CL-S, in my opinion. and i've driven my buddy's (and my future) M3 plenty of times. he's planning on getting rid of his '98 black M3 next year, and i'm planning on giving my CL-s to my wife and buying his M3 as my little play toy. yippee!!
and then when i miss the CL-S, it's there waiting for me. i love taking advantage of being married and "needing" two cars. the best part is that she doesn't care WHAT she drives....i just want it to be safe, and both are!

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-Silver CL-S, non-navi (shoulda got it!)
-Comptech headers
-Comptech sways
-K&N drop-in filter
-Polarg M6 road lamps
-14% tint all around
-Viper alarm with Car Starter

Check out my sold 98 Honda Prelude:
www.hondaprelude.com/setups/setupsdsply.asp?id=5644&gen=5&orderby=

 

exactly....but, I do have to emphasize...MOST NUMBNUTS DON'T KNOW HOW TO DRIVE AN ITR AND MAKE IT PULL 14.8 EVEN!!!
just my .02 cents.


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2001 Cl-S Black on Black with Navigation
Black Tint all around (15%~45%)
Weapon-R Dragon Filter
Weapon-R Coil-Overs
Koni Adjustable Struts
Comptech Sway Bars
Comptech Headers (hehehe...I got something for you drchang!!)

 

ITR's are not the easiest car to launch and run HARD. I could see someone in a lightly modded ITR running a 14.8 at the track but I think that's using 99.9% of that car's power. At our meet (Mercury's Reference) we watched an ITR get spanked but honestly we don't know how good that driver was. We did know that the CLS had mad length on him by the high-end (go see the video). Mike, did you run against that ITR?

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01' Acura CL Type-S
Piaa 19169 Bulbs
Valentine1 Pig Detector
CompTech Exhaust
Xephyr Cold Air Intake
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01'Acura Integra GSR

 

Got some more bad news for you, the current issue of Automobile has an article on the new RSX Type S and it spanked the old ITR in every way in a head to head.

I haven't seen it yet, but it looks like a dinky thing in the photos.

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lilfeat
01 CLS Red No Spoiler, No
Nav, No Payments

 

I was beat by the mod S by a about 2-3 car lengths and didn't race the R. The R was moded and still got spanked bad by the Mod'd S. I'd say the out of the box car should be beat by our out of the box S.

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Silver S
Black Xephyr Intake
Valentine 1 (Hard wired)

 

good points, i did in fact brake torque to launch.

most numbers i see in mags say the ITR does bout 14.8, do you think that's without letting off the gas? my friend is a real good driver i hafta admit he knows his car. anyways i'll go head to head again after my next maintenance. tha's bout 1000 more miles.

man i gotta go to tha track to get real numbers sometime, anyone know how much it cost to run on a track in houston?

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'01 cl type-S black/black
mods (in order):
35% neutral smoke tint... cleared out headlights replaced with polarg m-14's and piaa 19169's... piaa 19169's in roadlamps, doorlights, maplights, trunk light, license plate light... mini-max hyperwhite domelight... comptech headers, springs, swaybars, and drop-in filter... infinity basslink subwoofer

 

I used to pull 14.4s on my stock ITR @ NapierVille raceway in quebec.

No power-shifting.

My friend could pull a 14.1 in his.



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R.I.P Integra Type-R #932
Black 2001 CL-S
Comptech Headers

 

One of our guys has an 2000 type r and routinely pulls 14.5 quarters out of it on crummy tires.He has headers intake and exhaust.I expect to have the car in the high thirteens by midsummer after we twiddle the cam gears a bit and put some good rubber on the car.Jens

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1992 mazda Miata lowered with Eibach springs KYB AGX adjustable struts Sparco racing buckets 4 point safety harnesses Momo steering wheel lo profile headlite system with PIAA superwhite bulbs Custom audio system Custom gauges Jackson racing supercharger with header and Greddy cat back exhaust and a ton of other stuff 2000 Honda Civic on APEX coilovers Full Alpine Audio system factory fogs with Piaa bulbs Catz ZETA high beam headlamp system H.I.D. Xenon low beam tinted, custom taillites and on and on

 

check it out, from schedule to price listing.
http://www.houstonraceway.com/


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'01 Silver CL-S

 

WHoops, the Automobile article, and also Auto Week did comparisons to the old GS-R, not and ITR.


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lilfeat
01 CLS Red No Spoiler, No
Nav, No Payments