type-S girl

I have the APEXi full adjustable coilovers and i'm actually having second thoughts on them because it seems like everyone recommends Comptech springs. Don't get me wrong though, I love the ride and the way it handles. I've also gotten many compliments on the drop. but has anyone compared the two? and does anyone have pics of their CL with comptech springs?

Type S

if i were u..i will go with comptech.

Chris

whatever tickles your pickle

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2001 Acura 3.2 CL Type-S w/ Navigation
Nighthawk Black/Ebony
Two 12'' Alpine Type-S Subs, Kenwood 600-watt Amp

BeatYaAll

Hey Type-s girl,
i have comptech Springs.... if u wanna exchange my comptech spring with ur full adjustable coilcover ... we can do that.. ofcourse i will add u some money on ur coilcovers.

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Gold CL-S with comptech headers, mufflers,Springs, V-AFC. ACE hyper black Wheels 235-40-18ZR.
In the future..Supercharger or turbo if there is any.

BIGNASTY

Don't listen to them as long as the ride is good and no problems are caused by them then the APEXi coilovers are far superior to springs alone. Do they ride well? I almost bought them but the ride was the only thing I was worried about.

astro

I was going to get the APEXi Coil Overs for my car but they weren't yet available so i got the comptech, but now I am considering getting something else cuz the comptech stuff just doesn't make it low enough...

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Astroboy out...
2001 Acura Cl Type S: Comptech: Headers, filter, sways, springs, koni shocks, goodridge braided brake lines, full kicker system
1996 Porsche 911 Twin Turbo: H&R Springs and sways, Bilstein shocks

spiroh

I definately would keep the coilovers. Lowered springs on stock shocks, are not the way to ride anyways..I learned that the hard way. How is the ride with the coilovers? Smooth? Rough?

Spiro

GoldTypeS_RENAMED

Check the gallery -
pimpintypes has some pics of his car with the Comptech springs on it. And I have some of my stock car in there as well, if you want to compare the difference before and aft.

NOVAwhiteTypeS

I got a pic of JZ and me before springs w/ before and after pics. facing each other. email me if you want to see the pic.

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CL-S
White/Ebony/Navi/Spoiler/Visor/Full Bra/Mud Guards/Cargo Net/Acura Car Cover/Tint 20%,35%, Rockford 250a2 Amp w/JL10w6 / K&N Drop in Filter. Comptech Springs. Swayz next... Finally Polarg m-6.

type-S girl

The ride is cool...a bit stiff but its almost like stock. I can take corners alot better but the stock tires SUCK!!

Cee eL eS

i agree w/ type-s girl...our stock tires suck. has anyone changed the stock tires w/ aftermarket ones and put them on the original rims? i would assume it would make a difference. too bad our stock rims are so heavy...

WebToker

I don't know much about tires but I do know ours cost around 200$ a piece. Whats wrong with them? Why would acura put shitty tires on this car?



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2001 Acura 3.2 CL Type-S
San Marino Red/Ebony/Navi/Spoiler/Nose Mask/Mud Guards/Wheel locks/
Comptech Springs & Filter/PIAA 1969/20% Tint/Acura lettering removed/
12in Sub with AMP/Dynomated Trunk/Sub control under dash/
Clifford G4 Solaris Alarm

CL SLeePeR

Type-S girl, do you have any pictures of your car? If so an You post'em.?

typeR

while talking ride height.is there anything one could do to adjust ride height stock....somone was saying the koni adj's could be mounted w/the perch upside down for a 1/2 in drop...or could you trim a bump stop or anything like that? the reason i ask is id like to see the front end dropped about 1/3 to 1/2 in while leaving the rear stock or close to it...any ideas?

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'01 3.2 CL typeR
Sundance Platinum
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'98 ACCORD V-6 sedan
16" coupe wheels
215/55/16 nitto's

AC_RENAMED

Cuz stock tires were meant to give you a comfortable ride, not a sporty feel. Plus Michelins are expensive as hell! Acura didn't market our cars as Sports cars so I guess that's why they put on the tires that they did. Maybe?

Type S

i have heard that our stock 17" rim can fit to 235/45/17 tyres??is that true??if that is ture..i will buy the pirelli p7000 supersports tyre or p zero.



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tuleman

Type-S girl.. I have comptech springs. If you want to take a few minutes and check them out let me know. This way I get to check out your car too......

Achance

If the Apexi coilovers are true one piece coilovers then they are alot better then comptech springs. Now if only Tein made coilovers for our car then even me (anti-mod man) would put those bad boys on.

EricL

YES, 235/45x17s fit on 17" wheels. I put Toyo T1S Proxies 235/45ZR-W97* on my stock wheels. Just ran some GTECH runs at 6.1-6.2 to 60MPH with 95 degrees (and I'm a big guy).

I think the consensus is: you will loose a bit of gas mileage, but the car will handle like it is on rails. The stock tires are OK on sand-paper like surfaces (and lousy on the freeway in deep water/fwy speeds).

The current tires make the car feel like I picked up at least .1+ g *and* they don't squeal like little piggies on paint strips.

Repeat after me, they do fit, they do fit, they do fit...

The car is more balanced as well -- go figure...

astro

I have the Comptech springs and koni shocks, the shocks do have notches to allow for additional ride height adjustment, but it does not fit properly on our car on any setting other than the highest



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Astroboy out...
2001 Acura Cl Type S: Comptech: Headers, filter, sways, springs, koni shocks, goodridge braided brake lines, full kicker system
1996 Porsche 911 Twin Turbo: H&R Springs and sways, Bilstein shocks

type-S girl

I'll probably be taking pics of my car this weekend (after a good wash!)so i'll be posting them up soon.

type-S girl

$200 a piece! the tires don't seem to stick to the ground. Even though my car is lowered, when I turn too fast, I can hear the tires sweak like they're slippin.

EricL

Tire racks sells the stock tires for around $177 ea.

Check out the RE-730s ($135-$150), the Toyo T1S Proxies ($150-$200 depends on dealer rip-off pricing -- got mine for around $150ea).

The pig squeal goes away

type-S girl

I'll be getting rims soon so thats ok... thanks for the suggestion though.



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Chris

hey type-S girl... how old are u?

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2001 Acura 3.2 CL Type-S w/ Navigation
Nighthawk Black/Ebony
Two 12'' Alpine Type-S Subs, Kenwood 600-watt Amp

CLpower

i had apex'i on my 3.0 for a little while...and let me tell you....they are the best things i've ever ridden on!

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pays to be young

-99 acura 3.0 CL
-58 Caddy Eldorado Biarritz
-55 chevy suburban (chopped dropped tubbed)

spiroh

They do make Tein coilovers for the accord..would these fit on our cars?

check this linkhttp://www.inlinefour.com/teinhacoilda.html

I need a car that rides almost like stock..would the coilovers do this?

type-S girl

i'll be 21 in March.

CLpower

hmmm....OP?....marry me?



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pays to be young and crazy

-99 acura 3.0 CL
-58 Caddy Eldorado Biarritz
-55 chevy suburban (chopped dropped tubbed)

Achance

here is tein's official homepage if anybody wants to read up on them. They are a true one piece coilover. You would probably want the tein HA series They are not seperate pieces like tokico structs and comptech springs. But as far as will they fit on our car? I don't have a clue. Somebody else will have to do the research on that.

http://www.tein.co.jp/indexe.html

EricL

Hate to sound stupid -- I looked at one of the pages and they show a progressive rate spring. What's the major advantage from a handling perspective (I never climbed this hill)?

I'm not asking about the progressive rate thing, but about the "coil-overs" in general as they improve handling...

F=ma_RENAMED

EricL, when you think about it, spring manufacturer's have to build springs that will go with either stock shocks and not blow them or be rugged enough for performance shocks, to fully utilize its potential. When you want a vast compatibility, you give up specialized performance. Same goes with a shock manufacturer, they have to build shocks with the mindset that some lame-head would put them on a car with stock springs, or someone could put them on a car with springs that lower the car 3". Two VERY different scenarios, and hard to make a good shock for both that do both well. So as you can imagine, manufacturers sacrifice some hardcore-ness for crowd pleasing-ness.

Coilovers are built as a single unit, those specific springs to work with those shocks, they both know their limitations and performance capabilities. In essence its like trying to row a canoe with a random joe and trying to row it with your identical twin.

Type S Chick From the two or so members on the TL board, I hear that the coilovers are initially pretty rough, but after a few weeks they break in, and feel a lot smoother, while still retaining that "on rails" type of handling.

If you haven't already, think about investing in some Suspension Techniques adjustable front and rear sway bars. Suspension tuning at its finest, adjustable coilovers with adjustable sway bars. (at least as far as for street/daily driving goes). Accord V6 owners claim that with the sway bars at certain settings the car will oversteer (feel loose), that's impressive for a FWD car, that inherently pushes/understeers.



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Kenny
Slow TL

F=ma_RENAMED

Fun with Apexi coilovers!

(Not a Photoshop)








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Kenny
Slow TL

EricL

to F=ma:

I think I grock it... So, can I assume that when the springs are adjusted (in the case of the coil-overs) that the shocks re-valve themselves for bound/re-bound settings in response to decreased/increased spring rate. I am familiar with control theory, are we talking about being able to adjust ride height and keep the springs critically damped?

For example:

Adjust ride height up -- springs are less compressed *and* shock is adjusted for different damping?

Adjust ride height down -- springs are more compressed *and* shock is adjusted for higher/different damping?

F=ma_RENAMED

Actually, althought its a little counter intuitive, FULL coilovers are both independently ride and height adjustable.

You can have hit high and stiff or low and stiff, high and soft or low and soft, or anything in between.

Height is adjusted by twisting the seat around the threads that controls how initially compressed the spring is.

The shock damping however is seperate, there's a little dial or something somewhere on there that you use to control the damping.

The Apexi's are not exactly full coilovers, but they're still nice. They are threaded, but the shocks are only ride height adjustable, not damper adjustable. Which is why I mentioned above that some ppl initially complain about the harsh ride. (If they were damper adjustable they'd just soften it up if they had any issues).

Upcoming coilovers from Tein and APEX, are going to be threaded and both ndependently height and ride adjustable.

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Kenny
Slow TL

EricL

To F=ma:

Thanks for that very clear explanation. Got it. Sounds very cool. I like the ability to adjust ride height *and* spring rate -- very, very cool.

Finally, would you suspect that one could just lower the car an inch?

F=ma_RENAMED

Yeah of course, the drop prolly ranges from half an inch to something ridiculous like 4"

But that's just a guess.

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Kenny
Slow TL

type-S girl

type s chick or type-S girl?

F=ma_RENAMED

Heh, do you really care that someone calls you a chick instead of a girl? If so, I'm sorry, my intentions were obviously not to harm, since I was trying to help you with the coilovers. I guess it just comes from habit.

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Kenny
Slow TL

CL SLeePeR

Hey Type-S girl when is you B-Day? Mine's March 2nd. Ima be 21 too.! What nationality are u?