Scrib

I just picked up two kits, which will cover my garage floor. I went to Menards (midwest hardware store, similar to Lowes, Home Depot), Lowes and Home Depot to check the garage floor paint out.

They pretty much carried all the same stuff, except Home Depot carried Behr garage floor paint. You had about 24 different colors to choose from with Behr. The other brands were basically a tan or gray color.

I ended up getting this, which was on-sale (in gray):

http://www.rust-oleum.com/product.as...ct_id=56&SBL=1


Anyone ever used this stuff? It seems very easy to apply. After you etch the floor, you simply combine the two epoxies together and roll it on.


Curious if anyone has had any good or bad stories with this.

synth19

never used it, but the grey one looks great

vinarnold

i used the behr did work good but very important to prep it good.

Ray Khan

did you use the murietic acid stuff to prep the floor? That's what I was told. I want to do this as soon as my garage floor sets, before I bring anything in there.

CLpower

we have it, I like it however it is hard to clean and oil likes to leave stains.


Actually i'm not sure if this is the exact stuff we have but it looks like it

Scrib

Interesting...

Because the product promotes that it repels oil and other stain makers.

DRM600

this stuff is more for industrial applications:

http://www.revereproducts.com/html/m...nce_index.html

dfreder371

Eric: I use a business named Desert Dry to do our floors at work, and they ain't cheap.

But one thing they do do, which I like, is that they surface grind the floor to rough it up.

I know your construction is new, so there will be no stains, but if I were you, I'd get a quote or two. Ask them how important it is to rough up the concrete floor.

I am NOT in charge of this at work, but I had my corrosion and powder labs done, and so far, so good.

Our adhesive lab was done also, the floor was cleaned, but not ground. Saucer sized pieces of the floor are flaking off. Shows what you get when you cut corners. FYI.

Scrib

The kit does come with a muratic-type of acid and along with a wire brush is used to "etch" the floor.

I've been told this stuff works. We'll see how it goes.

Dave, I can ONLY imagine what a professional would want for something like this... I'll pass and do this myself.

stejus

Can these applications you buy at the retail level (Behr, Rustolium) handle standing water and hot tire? Most of the winter I bring in snow and it melts. In the summer those hot tires sitting on paint? Does it really hold up to these extremes? Anyone who has the retail level applications, please add some feedback. I, like Scrib would like know.

Scrib

Yep...

Supposedly, they can withstand all the above. They're made to do this. I know several people who have had their floors painted and they've had no ill-effects from heat, etc.

Even the link above says it can withstand the heat from the tires...

Scrib

Long-lasting performance

Protects against gasoline, antifreeze, motor oil, salt and hot tire pick-up

Easy to keep clean

Morris

I am thinking about putting the Rust Oleum product on my floor this spring too. You might want to check to see how long it has to sit before you can drive on it. I think I remember seeing on the box that you have to let it cure for seven days before driving on it. I may be wrong, but it is worth checking.

Ray Khan

I know Griot's has a product like this as well. A friend of mine has it and it looks awesome. He used 2 coats after doing the murietic acid. I don't think the Griot's route is the most cost effective one though.

rjp

I've got a couple of friends that have done their floor and all have had it flake where the tires contact. I'm looking to put something like this down in the spring:

http://www.bltllc.com/GFloor_home.htm

Big drawback is the expense

gobridge

Yes. I have had this on my garage floor for a little over 2 years. I also have a new house, so I never parked a car in there until I did the floor.

First, it looks great. I have never had a problem with stains.
The only problem I've had is with hot tires. They pull up the epoxy. It started happening after 7 or 8 months. However, since you park the car in almost exactly the same spot, the car is usually sitting on the spots where the epoxy was pulled off. So, it really isn't that bad.

My neighbor has it on his garage floor, too and is happy with it. In fact, I want to use it on my unfinished basement floor.

Scrib

Does it help if you keep the floor clean; i.e. sweep it out every week??? Or do the hot tires really just eat this shit up? On the box, it specifically says that it'll stay down even with hot tire contact.

I'm going to do this on a new garage floor. Did you use anything other than what came with the kit?

I'm thinking that I can give the floor a good power-wash and follow it up with the etching solution. Any recommendations to get the floor nice and prepped???

Thanks!

Shawn S

I heard that even the BEST paint and the BEST prep job will eventually flake off when the hot tires are on there.
Especially if you’re parking a performance car with soft, wide & sticky rubber like most guys here run.
That’s why I didn’t paint my floor.
Also, I like to wash my cars while inside the garage.
Unless you add some kind of aggregate to the mix it will get slippery as hell when it’s wet.

Shawn S

CLean

I helped my neighbor do this to his place but his did not incluse the chips, so we sprinkled some same on the top for some grip, and thank god we did. The places that were smooth were like ice when they got a little bit wet.

Looks cool...

Scrib

So....


Should I return this stuff and just seal it with some good ol' Thompson's Water Seal???

Seriously. I am just pissing $100 down the drain?

Shawn S

Why do you need to do ANYTHING to the floor ???

Scrib

For the look mainly. Nothing more. But if this stuff is going to be flaking off on me... I'm beginning to rethink the decision.

NSXNEXT

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Oh here we go again.. Why mod your car? Cause it looks cool.

I've heard good things about Griot's kit. As everyone mentioned, prep is the key. You only get one chance.

Shawn S

I think he understands that it’s just for looks.
I just wanted to make sure that people here know that there isn’t really any need to do this to “protect” the cement from damage.
It’s not gonna make it last any longer and even most painted floors will stain if you drop certain automotive fluids on them.

Scrib

Tile would be nice, but at $3-$4 per square foot and shipping, it'd cost me a pretty penny.

I just want a different look in the garage. But if this shit is gonna come up...

I'll have to think about this.

NOLACLS

This is what I have heard as well. I preped my floor and used the stuff from home depot and in less than a year it started to come up (from the tires) and now it looks nasty again. My plan is to just get 2 car mats and then I can repaint the floor and park on the mats. That in my mind is the best way to go. Then you car dosent drip all the rain water snow and whatever else on the floor so it can flow from under the car and then you step in it with your socks on....ewwww wet socks hahaha.

The floor does look good with a fresh coat on there...I would just use a mat to park on to keep it looking good.

NSXNEXT

iTrader: (2)

I wonder if you could powdercoat a concrete floor :thinking:

NOLACLS

There mey be some concrete stains that would hold up. I am going to ask one of the guys downstairs to see what they use if anything off shore that might hold up better.

juniorbean

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A buddy of mine did the Rustolium and it came out great. Did it in November, so far no problems through the winter. He also does all of the mechanical work on his cars, and no chipping or anything from tools, the cars, parts, etc.....

NOLACLS

Yeah I talked to the guys here and they say use a 2 part epoxie and make sure its clean clean (witht the acid) before you lay it down. He is going to talk to some other people that deal with it all the time and give me some more info. Also he said make sure you use some sand or anti skid stuff in it or you WILL bust your ass!

03typeS6spd

I just put some stuff like that down before winter... and it looks great, was really easy to apply, but I can also verify that warm tires made the stuff peel off or in my case "melt", it is weird looking, I can take some pics tonight if you want to see

but on my floor it comes up looking stark white on the grey flooring but like a footprint in the shape of the tire tread, not the concrete color the floor was obviously before.

Scrib

Define "2 part epoxy"... I'm assuming Rust-Oleum is a 2-part... But I'm not sure.

NSXNEXT

iTrader: (2)

Scrib, they are all two-part systems, resin and hardener.

Scrib

So should I do this shit or not!!!???

car_lost

how about trying some of that rhino lining stuff? u know, the spray-on bed liners for trucks. they supposedly hold up pretty well.

NOLACLS

NSXNEXT is right....it is a 2 part.

I would do it...just make sure you clean with the acid fist very very well and also make sure you use some sort of anti skid stuff or sand or maybe thats what the chips are for. Lay it on thick and let it sat for a day or so before you park on it just to give it a little extra time.





Then let us all know how it holds up :P

NSXNEXT

iTrader: (2)

Scrib,

Spend a little more and get Griot's FLOOR PAINT His stuff is expensive, but I would trust him. Read the test they did on it. I plan to use that stuff when my house is done.

Scrib

Crap...

That'd cost me over $400 to do my garage. At that price, I'd rather go with something like...

http://racedeck.com/racedeck.htm

NOLACLS

hmmmm now scrib that looks like the thing to do...how much is that stuff?

Scrib

It's horribly expensive. Like $4 per square foot PLUS tax. I got a quick quote from another vendor and it was like $1400 shipped.