Can anyone give me any feedback on how much an aftermarket chip helps performance on a '03 CL-S 6 speed car? Also recomendations on exhaust upgrades. Options look pretty limited. Thanks in advance.

 

What market chips ? Doritos ? The Jseries engine doesn't really take chips .

Exhuast ? Do some searching. Comptech headers fit the cls6 some headers will only fit automatic.

Want some sound ? You can delete the mid muffler and put straight pipe in .

 

There is no "chip" in our cars, or any other car made since the mid 90s for that matter.

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not true

 

I was talking about the modules that plug into the ECU to modify fuel mixture and timing, such as the gforce and others.
As far as the exhaust goes, I'm not looking for anymore sound, just performance. (I'm an old guy) Dont really want to put headers on, and it looks like there is very little room for true dual exhaust. Do the magnaflow converters, resonators and mufflers help much? Dont mean to sound ignorant, but I'm used to dealing with early 70's american muscle car(lots of c.i.d., carburaters, distributors and plenty of room).

 

oldsman!! im originally a mustang dude! it took a while to come to the import side, but i been on this side for about8 years, not looking back yet!!! slight sound and performance gains can be had with comptech headers, they make great power on a stock car....catback/ axlebacks dont make too much power, but to keep it on the quiet side with some power gain, do the comptech headers and comptech axle back, id leave the oem cat and midpipe alone or you will get some drone,and a lot of deepness.....you will totally enjoy the car with those exhaust mods and a cold air intake, it will feel/ sound great.........
thats jsut my .02

i hope this helped ya!!! be careful also, there are a lot of internet thugs and know it alls around here

 

I feel bad for people who buy this car. They do not realize it is not easy to mod like most cars with proper aftermarket support.

If you buy a car made by a japanese company(honda) that is only sold in north america, then your aftermarket options will be limited since all the development takes place in japan. They obviously don't care about a car they don't even have there.

There are no chips. There is a aem ems standalone but that is only made to support the auto motor with manual trans. If you have the manual motor with manual trans you have to figure out how to get it to work yourself. Manual motor uses a different type of sensor. This stand alone plus tuning will easily run you 2 grand plus not including other mods. Most people with these cars now are too cheap for that.

 

If you want any performance out of your engine, you will need to add headers. Slapping on some mufflers or high flow cats will not do much of anything if you're being blocked at the beginning.

 

There are NO chips for our cars. The crap you see on ebay is just that, crap. Our ECU's cant even be reprogrammed. The only way to properly tune these cars is with a full standalone. The SINGLE biggest way to gain HP on these motors is headers. They arent hard to install and they dont make the car noisy, Especially with a stock or slightly modified exhaust. As for true dual, it can be done, but the way the tunnel is designed and being a transverse motor its much harder, especially having to add a 2nd cat in there.

 

Why would you expect there to be a big aftermarket for a car that was never designed for performance and sold in small numbers? The simple fact that almost no one knows what a CL is just by mentioning the name should be a hint that it won't have much of an aftermarket following. The fact that it's now over over 10 years old and was only produced for 3 years means even less chance of aftermarket support.

Sounds like the thread starter hasn't done crap for mods. Even if there were piggyback ECUs available, he'd have no use for one at this point.

 

I'd throw in there that our exhaust systems are already plenty free flowing. The true-dual setups that have been done have shown almost no HP increase and generally a drop in torque. Not really worth it.

 

brian has a big point. acura is only a US car for whatever reason they decided to create them (the 'luxury' honda?)

fun fact: the honda accord is made in ohio

 

The CL is assembled in the US too .

 

Thank you everyone! Being an Olds guy, I know all to well the difficulty of finding good aftermarket performance stuff for cars that were not as popular as chevys, fords, or mopars. (I think Quick Trip sells aftermarket chevy stuff) I will look into the headers, and talk to my buddy at the mufler shop.

 

And with other mods free flowing exhaust like duals do increase HP I felt/noticed a decent improvement and I gained 3mph in the 1/4 with my setup.

 

But the 2nd gen TL is basically the same car and they sold a ton of them and there wasn't much of a aftermarket following. For what ever reason there never was much love for us. Nissan on the other hand .......

 

I also almost had 3mph in the quarter gain .

 

Look at who buys these cars. They aren't sold to performance enthusiasts and their price range put them out of the range of the ricer boys that will attempt to modify whatever they can afford.

 

Main reasons I bought this car: Fun to drive and limited production. Accura is to Honda what Olds used to be to Chevy. Basically the same car only nicer and more comfy.

 

The maximas weren't either but they had quite a bit of aftermarket support

 

I never said I expected anything, not sure where this is coming from.

Whether or not it is considered a sport/performance car is not the point. It all comes down to whether they make/sell the car in other parts of the world besides north america. If it is a honda/acura made only for the north american market it will lack aftermarket support, period. Some examples are 1st gen cl, 2nd gen cl, 2nd gen tl, 3rd gen tl, etc. You can't tell me they didn't sell many 3rd gen tl's.

Now take a honda/acura made in japan, and sold in japan and europe. Take the TSX/euro accord for example. That car has more aftermarket support then all the north american market honda/acuras combined.

Are you gonna tell me the tsx is a performance car and not too expensive for ricers too?