My friend is going to start a new project car. Tell me your opinions. Its a body of an accord, heart and soul of a Acura CL Type-S.

Here is what he is going to do:

Engine (mod's)

Car = 1999 Honda Accord EX (V4 5spd trans)
Motor = 2001 Acura CL-S type-S
Transmission = (don't know yet) something that is manual
ECU = 2001 Acura CL-S type-S

Interior
Acura CL-S Leather Seats
Full front dash swap (maybe, but $$ is high)

Other:

CL-S HID head lights

This is why i needed the engine code.



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2001 CL-S
Black/Black
Moonroof Visor
Black Wood Dash Kit
Currently on TL rims with Nokian Winter Tires
My Bitch

 

is he really gonna do it? The dash and headlights would be cool. Very unique. But i believe the swap has already been done.

 

yeah he was seriuos, he needed the engine codes for this reason.

btw, i am gonna kick that old alien guys ass

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2001 CL-S
Black/Black
Moonroof Visor
Black Wood Dash Kit
Currently on TL rims with Nokian Winter Tires
My Bitch

 

Good luck getting a manual to hook up to a type s engine, but much props if he can get it done.

I priced CL Type S seats in the TL. The conversion (not including labor) costs over 2 grand. Have fun.

Tell me how he overcomes the problem of the engine hooking up to the wiring harness and all, ripping apart the interior will double the price of the engine swap, not to mention that its never been done before, especially into an I4 engine bay.

CL-S HID's should be a piece of cake.

Engine code? like what? the J32A? number? You can get that at any pep boys or mieneke they write that on every receipt of an oil change.

CLPower: Who's done this swap before? This is news to me!



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Kenny
Slow TL

 

I don't think so, there are no H-A Transversed V-6 5-speed out there. Good Luck!

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tann@808-'00 TL
non-Navi(Doesn't work in Hawaii)

Factory body kit & Wing, 19" Racing Hart C-5's, V-AFC,
Nitto 555's, NEX CoilOvers, CompTech Exhaust,
CompTech Headers, Inpire Taillights, NOS(50Shot),
AEM CAI, Alpine 8080, TL rear door handles in front,
5% + 30% tints,30% front windshield.
tann@pixi.com

[This message has been edited by Tann@808 (edited 03-08-2001).]

 

F=MA, i'm not sure who did it, but i read a whole article w/ pics included on the net one day. I've been looking for it ever since and have had no luck finding it

and TAN...the NSX tranny supposebly will work with the help of an adapter plate. Accord-R knows all about it, i just can't find his email to get ahold of him

 

Sounds like fun !

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2001 Nighthawk Black CLS Type S - Xephyr Performance Cold Air Intake, PIAA 19173(Yellow) Road Lamp Upgrades, Full Wood Trim, Spoiler, Best GTECH Sprint 6.05 Xephyr Performance Intakes

 

Chris, new product coming out soon??? hehe

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Black 2001 Type S
*Xephyr Cold Air Intake
*PIAA 19169 Road Lamps
*Acura Winter Mats
*Mudguards
*Mobile 1 Synthetic
*Rockford 500a2
*Pioneer 12" @ 400w (x2)
---Still 2 rims not scratched---

 

i just talked to the guy right now, he is gonna come online tonight and start posting here talking about this stuff.

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2001 CL-S
Black/Black
Moonroof Visor
Black Wood Dash Kit
Currently on TL rims with Nokian Winter Tires
My Bitch

 

One question: Why?


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'01 Satin Silver w/Black, Navi_less, spoiler, mud guards, wind deflector.
Tint 15%, Polarqs M6s, Things to come: sub, air kit (if exists), maybe headers,K&N filter, CAI, and spring/sway combo.

 

it's something that is often done in the car show seen now a days. I have a buddy w/ a hatch with a gsr motor, he fabricated a GSR dash so it fit right in. Also has full GSR interior, etc.

why they do it i don't know....but i can't talk shit..i have caddy taillights on a 55 suburban

 

Quoted by CLPower,
"TAN...the NSX tranny supposebly will work with the help of an adapter plate."

The NSX has a transverse V-6?????????????????

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tann@808-'00 TL
non-Navi(Doesn't work in Hawaii)

Factory body kit & Wing, 19" Racing Hart C-5's, V-AFC,
Nitto 555's, NEX CoilOvers, CompTech Exhaust,
CompTech Headers, Inpire Taillights, NOS(50Shot),
AEM CAI, Alpine 8080, TL rear door handles in front,
5% + 30% tints,30% front windshield.
tann@pixi.com

 

with an adapter plate it will work...so i've heard from many many people. Accord R had the whole thing written up on what needed to be done, but i can't find his email anywhere. You got any clue what it is?

 

ask him.. he is gonna start a thread on his project and is actually starting this..he has a digital camera, so we can see enough pics and details.

This might help us a lot with the NSX tranny thing too.

He told me he is doing it cause its slightly cheaper than being a CL-S..and he finds it to be more fun to drive a car you practical built, and to have something NOBODY has. I guess this would be pretty fun for him.

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2001 CL-S
Black/Black
Moonroof Visor
Black Wood Dash Kit
Currently on TL rims with Nokian Winter Tires
My Bitch

 

Hmmm...just my two cents...but isn't the NSX tranny a rear wheel drive and thus the motor would have to be mounted differently (to accomadate the drive shaft), and even then you'd have to convert to rear wheel drive. Oh yeah, btw, where are you gonna get the brain from?

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2001 Cl-S Black on Black with Navigation
Black Tint all around (15%~45%)
Weapon-R Dragon Filter
Weapon-R Coil-Overs
Koni Adjustable Struts
Comptech Sway Bars
(sooner than I thought...)
Comptech Headers

 

custom linkage will need to be made

 

All right, I guess to each his own, but I think he should just buy a cl-s and make changes to the cls instead of hooking up an accord to be something close to the real thing, but not quite.
I deffinetly agree that it will be something no one has, but using that methodology might as well buy that 85 mr2 with 50 or whatever turbos.



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'01 Satin Silver w/Black, Navi_less, spoiler, mud guards, wind deflector.
Tint 15%, Polarqs M6s, Things to come: sub, air kit (if exists), maybe headers,K&N filter, CAI, and spring/sway combo.

 

that MR2 is slow

 

i think the mr2 isnt that fast either.

the guy selling it was sounding a little sneaky with the wording he used. its like he wants people to think it goes REALLY fast, with the BIG CAPS, and the way he tried to make the description like its a fast"CRAZY CAR". If it was REALLY fast he would have verified it and said exactly how fast.

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2001 CL-S
Black/Black
Moonroof Visor
Black Wood Dash Kit
Currently on TL rims with Nokian Winter Tires
My Bitch

 

NSX Tranny.... That's gonna be a huge bundle. I'd guess atleast $5k or maybe $8k....

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2001 Acura 3.2TL
Satin Silver

 

yep, i had a good explanation of why i thought it was slow over on another post. let me get it for you

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"the needle got buried at 140.....1,500 RPM later...the tach got buried"

pays to be young and crazy


99 3.0 CL
55 Chevy Suburban (chopped, dropped, tubbed and FLAME RETARDENT!!)

58 Eldorado Biarritz

 

It's not a joke, it was most likely something built out of junk parts by a shop class...it also probally isn't that fast since the thrust speed is only 190 lbs and they only run at 450 psi (should be more like 750) I bet it won't due above the 85 mph he said he did.


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"the needle got buried at 140.....1,500 RPM later...the tach got buried"

pays to be young and crazy


99 3.0 CL
55 Chevy Suburban (chopped, dropped, tubbed and FLAME RETARDENT!!)

58 Eldorado Biarritz

 

Accord-R and I know eachother pretty well online, I've been big in the whole swap thing, and he's helped out quite a bit.


http://members.aol.com/typerv611

That's his webpage and here's his email

typerv611@aol.com




Guys don't forget that the NSX is Mid engine, so there is no drive shaft running the length of the car. the engine and the drive wheels are in the same place, as the CL's and Accords engine and drive wheels are in the same place.

Also on that note, I worked out the gear ratio's for the 6 speed NSX, they're a bit too agressive, but I'm sure something could be done about it. I worked out the exact numbers but have misplaced them, all I remember though is that in 6th gear (highway gear) youre turning some 3500 rpm at 80 mph... yikes. I even cruise at 90+ sometimes... Car's gonna be churning like a GSR/Type R. I'm sure something can be done about the Final drive to get that fixed though.

Just a heads up.

//edit: Oh yeah, and as to answer the question as to "Why?"

Because the Accord is some 250 lbs lighter than a CL Type S. That's why.


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Kenny
Slow TL

[This message has been edited by F=ma (edited 03-08-2001).]

 

[quote]<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by F=ma:
[b]Accord-R and I know eachother pretty well online, I've been big in the whole swap thing, and he's helped out quite a bit.


http://members.aol.com/typerv611

That's his webpage and here's his email

typerv611@aol.com





thanks for your help f=ma.

and soopaaa, you driving me crazy moving around all the tools, and now these little pics! ther cool, but you confusing me!

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2001 CL-S
Black/Black
Moonroof Visor
Black Wood Dash Kit
Currently on TL rims with Nokian Winter Tires
My Bitch

[This message has been edited by amirsafdari (edited 03-08-2001).]

 

Okay....sounds good for the tranny...but there is a small matter of a brain, right??



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2001 Cl-S Black on Black with Navigation
Black Tint all around (15%~45%)
Weapon-R Dragon Filter
Weapon-R Coil-Overs
Koni Adjustable Struts
Comptech Sway Bars
(sooner than I thought...)
Comptech Headers

 

Your check engine light will be on. The type S ECU controls the SS and since you want a manual tranny your fucked. Also you need to get the ecu from the same donor car because of the immobilzer. Otherwise you won't be able to start your car. Maybe if you get a tranny from the accord R (avaliable overseas) it might work, but then you will paying out the ass for the tranny. And besides it will still be an accord.

 

i believe the tranny has it's own ECU?

 

Kenny Tran's 8 Second Tube Framed CRX is still a CRX.

That car can rip any McLaren F1, Benz CLK-GTR, Porsche GT1 a new a-hole in the 1/4 mile. (Note I didn't say the GT1's specialty was 1/4's but you have to realize GT1's are GT1's)



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Kenny
Slow TL

 

Yeah but it cant make any turns. All that car is a drag car. Who cares about the 1/4 mile, try putting the two cars in an autoX race and see who will win. I don't know about you but I would take any of those cars over a crx any day!

Also I've been thinking why else this swap won't work.

the ecu and wiring.

the NSX is a C series engine, so the tranny won't work. Also the Cl-s was made an auto, so there are no support brackets, clutch assembly, and other parts avaliable. And anybody who has done a civic auto to manual swap will tell you how hard it is. And they even have all the parts.

The accord R is an H-series motor so my Idea was wrong also.

 

Nope, that is why it is called a PCM, Powertrain Control Module. All shift solenoid, line pressure control valves and selection input I/O are tried to the same PCM that controls the engine.

 

Great Story!!!

LOL, sorry, couldnt resist

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Silver 01' Type-S w/all the trimmins
Acura loyalty
retired a 2000 TL and a 94' Acura Legend Coupe
Comptech Springs, axle-back exhaust,headers
AEM CAI
yellow bumper (fog lights) bulbs
Clear Headlights

 

My point was that if I could have a 13 second civic that corners at .92 lateral G's or a 14 second integra that corners at .89 lateral G's, I'd take the Civic hands down.

So I'm on the highway cruising in my civic and this Integra with boltons runningn 14's comes by and decides to race. Well we run em, and as I'm putting him to shame, he's yelling at me telling me to roll down my window, As I oblige to his request he yells at me, "its still a civic." Expecting me to bow down to his car that costs a few grand more. I suppose he would go on to tell everyone that witnessed his loss that his car is still worth more since it costs more and is of a more prestigous marque, hell its and "Acura" woooooo! I'd laugh in his face and take a dump on his car right then and there.

There's no "Its still a civic"/"Its still an accord" about it. To me a faster and better performing car is a faster and better performing car. Especially when they're 60% complete they're indistinguishable rolling out of the same Marysville Ohio plant.

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Kenny
Slow TL

[This message has been edited by F=ma (edited 03-23-2001).]

 

I had a bad ass hybrid civic as my last car. It had an ITR engine swap, plus CTR cams, JDM 4-1 headers, etc..... And all it was, was a $20k+ 93 civic dx. I wish i could of saved money and just bought a real ITR, instead of trying to bolt one together. My car was faster than an ITR, but it just wasn't the same. The guy wanting to do the swap should realize that he will have a $40k+ accord that won't be any better than the Cl-s (if it runs at all). He is better off buying a CL-s and taking some weight out, if he is just looking for speed.
He are 2 pictures of my old semi-rice civic that would blow the doors off the CL-s. It was a good little car and I miss it. its name was "Project DarkCloud" because hybrids suck!

 

Why do people buy Civics, Accords, Sentras, etc etc. and then spend all kinds of money to make them look like more expensive cars???...Sorry I think its RICE! I saw an Accord 4-door the other day that had all kinds of IS300 badging and lights and stuff all over it...To me thats just sad! But hey thats just my humble opinion.

 

well alot of people don't have the money up front to buy a good car to start off w/ so they buy a cheap car and as they make more money they just add on to it rather than buy a new one. Also if you a really hard core performance guy who don't care about looks or luxury you'll buy one of those hatch backs and swap an engine.



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CL-S
White/Ebony/Navi/Spoiler/Visor/Full Bra/Mud Guards/Cargo Net/Acura Car Cover/Tint 20%,35%,5% on Sun Roof, Rockford 250a2 Amp w/JL10w6 / K&N Drop in Filter. Comptech Springs. Polarg m-6.
Comptech Headers, Comptech Sways, Eurolite Xenon Crystal high beams.
AEM CAI once they decide to make the dame thing.
235/40/17's or 225/45/17's once I found out which one works for me.

gtech 0-60 6.03 w/ 438 pound load. preheader.

 

it's the same thing thats been going on for decades. It started w/ the old hot rods. Swapping lights, doors, interiors, motors etc. It's been going on forever, it's just less to your liking now.

 

Yup much cheaper if he bought a stock CL-S and then found ways to lighten the CL-S.. ie lighter wheels/tires combo, take out the back seats (haha).., no spare tire, lose weight, change to aluminum body panels, etc.

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2001 Satin silver CL-S
* no navi, spoiler, mudguards
* wheel locks, full front mask
* fenderwell and door trim