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Old Jan 11, 2003 | 09:54 AM
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? About CompTech Sways...

Question for you guys that have CompTech sways. Are they that much better than the standard sways and why? Are they thicker?
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Old Jan 11, 2003 | 10:24 AM
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Yes they are. The rear is much bigger and the front has thicker walls or this what claims Comptech... Major handling difference!
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Old Jan 11, 2003 | 10:25 AM
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Does it have any effect on the ride as well?
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Old Jan 11, 2003 | 10:26 AM
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They are very much worth it, the front is the same size but i think it might be less hallow, the back is bigger. Also you will need those yokohama's when you get sways
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Old Jan 11, 2003 | 10:27 AM
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Wow too people beat me on the first post, before it showed nothing, when that happens you know you got some good people and a good site
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Old Jan 11, 2003 | 10:34 AM
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Originally posted by mretif
They are very much worth it, the front is the same size but i think it might be less hallow, the back is bigger. Also you will need those yokohama's when you get sways
I've already got the Yokohamas.
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Old Jan 11, 2003 | 10:36 AM
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Yes they are. The rear is much bigger and the front has thicker walls or this what claims Comptech... Major handling difference!
Is the difference worth the money? I still can't decide what my next upgrade will be and what's the most cost effective.

Sways, CAI, or Headers...

I kinda want more power since just getting my system insatlled seems to have slowed down the car some.

Have any suggestions?
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Old Jan 11, 2003 | 11:30 AM
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Re: ? About CompTech Sways...

Originally posted by Pappy
Question for you guys that have CompTech sways. Are they that much better than the standard sways and why? Are they thicker?
Like stated above, they are less hollow. Personally, I'd go for Neuspeed though. They're front bar ISN'T hollow like the Comptech (aka less body roll). I put the Comptech's on my '01 CL, and they were waaaayyy better than stock (still could be stiffer though). I'm finding that with the 6 speed and the HLSD, the I have more wheel hop, and the HLSD really contrubutes to body roll by making the car turn harder. I have a Nuespeed on order.
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Old Jan 11, 2003 | 11:54 AM
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i sent you a pm wires
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Old Jan 11, 2003 | 05:06 PM
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Old Jan 11, 2003 | 05:47 PM
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you will feel it in every way. ride quality changes so will your handling performance!

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Old Jan 11, 2003 | 05:48 PM
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Originally posted by NateBoozer
Is the difference worth the money? I still can't decide what my next upgrade will be and what's the most cost effective.

Sways, CAI, or Headers...

I kinda want more power since just getting my system insatlled seems to have slowed down the car some.

Have any suggestions?
IMHO, you'll really get the most bang for the buck with the sways. The first time you enter a freeway cloverleaf, you'll be surprised at the difference. You'll enter and leave faster than ever before.
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Old Jan 12, 2003 | 07:33 PM
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Originally posted by lead_sled_dog
IMHO, you'll really get the most bang for the buck with the sways. The first time you enter a freeway cloverleaf, you'll be surprised at the difference. You'll enter and leave faster than ever before.
I usually say more power, but the sways are awesome and your best bang for the $$
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Old Jan 12, 2003 | 07:53 PM
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What are the difference between the comptech and nuespeed sways?
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Old Jan 12, 2003 | 08:03 PM
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Originally posted by riceburner503
What are the difference between the comptech and nuespeed sways?
Same diameter, but the front Neuspeed bars are solid, front Comptech is still partially hollow. The solid bar is more rigid, and you'll have less body roll.

Both back bars are 19mm, and they are both solid, so I don't think there is much difference there.

I have Comptech's and the front still understeers more than I'd like, so a Neuspeed will replace it next week when it comes in. :P
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Old Jan 12, 2003 | 08:17 PM
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I'd buy his used comptech front swaybar if I were you because it'd be even cheaper than a new one plus it's still an excellent upgrade over stock.

Also the endlinks use eurethayne bushings unlike the OEM rubber ones.
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Old Jan 12, 2003 | 08:27 PM
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Are there any downsides to the new sways? Other than ride quality I mean. Any effect on steering or wheel camber?
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Old Jan 12, 2003 | 08:33 PM
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Originally posted by joeandcarol2
Are there any downsides to the new sways? Other than ride quality I mean. Any effect on steering or wheel camber?
There is no ride quality downside with only the sways.
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Old Jan 12, 2003 | 09:23 PM
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Wires, are u just replacing the front sways with neuspeed ones?
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Old Jan 12, 2003 | 09:38 PM
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Originally posted by riceburner503
Wires, are u just replacing the front sways with neuspeed ones?
For now. I figured I'd install the front right now, and see how it is. I don't think there will be much difference between the Neuspeed and Comptech rears. If I still find the rear is understeering, then I might do the rear as well. I know the 25mm Neuspeed would "solve" that, but the Neuspeed tech guys didn't recommend that bar for non-race car. Problems with the subframe being ripped from the frame. Not cool......
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Old Jan 12, 2003 | 09:47 PM
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Comptech Sways

I have just recently installed the comptech sways... rest of my car is pretty much stock. The sway eliminated about 80% of the bodylean over the stock sways. the car still leans a little but only when I push it really hard around the corners. However, if the car is lowered by 1-2" I am sure of 95% of the body lean will be eliminated.

I think Comptech's front bar might be better than the neuspeed's front sway.. although neuspeed is solid upfront; however, if you installed a stiffer front bar it might induce more understeer(at the limit) But I can see your point where the solid front would reduce lean even more

Either way, I think for the $$, sways are the best. Currently I am getting some 18" rims on 235/40/18 tires, because after I installed my sways I found out that my oem tires do not hold on to the road really well.. but so far I only found +42mm offset for the rim... I hope it does not rub
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Old Jan 12, 2003 | 09:51 PM
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Wow...thanks for your help guys.
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Old Jan 12, 2003 | 10:44 PM
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I also heard that many people in this site had noise problem when they installed their comptech sways...is this true? which this is giving me a doubt to order them sways..
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Old Jan 12, 2003 | 10:48 PM
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Originally posted by CL FWD SPEED
I also heard that many people in this site had noise problem when they installed their comptech sways...is this true? which this is giving me a doubt to order them sways..
You'll only get a noise problem if you don't grease the bushings when installing them.
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Old Jan 12, 2003 | 10:50 PM
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Re: Comptech Sways

Originally posted by jleelu

I think Comptech's front bar might be better than the neuspeed's front sway.. although neuspeed is solid upfront; however, if you installed a stiffer front bar it might induce more understeer(at the limit) But I can see your point where the solid front would reduce lean even more
On our '01 auto, I thought they were great. On our '03 6 speed I find that I get more wheel hop, and with the HLSD, when you turn hard and accelerate, you get power on oversteer which whips the front end around (and causes the a bunch of body roll up front).

I'm hoping the stiffer bar reduces that even more.
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Old Jan 13, 2003 | 01:17 AM
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Originally posted by Wires
I know the 25mm Neuspeed would "solve" that, but the Neuspeed tech guys didn't recommend that bar for non-race car. Problems with the subframe being ripped from the frame.
Been there & done that...TWICE! It's NOT the subframe that breaks, but it's the brackets and endlink bars that you should worry about. At least we now know that they are easy and cheap to replace ($15 from the dealer).

BTW...a bkoken bracket might look like this...



The full story can be viewed here...
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Old Jan 13, 2003 | 07:34 AM
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Wow, it certainly sounds like you guys are happy with the sway swap. Do I have to do anything like a four wheel alignment or any other tweak?
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Old Jan 13, 2003 | 09:51 AM
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Nope, unless you feel that your car is having problems going straight. An alignment is usually required when you lower your car.

BTW, I love my Comptech Sways too, IMO, this is the way our TypeS should have come with. Feels much sportier now when I drive the car compare to stock. Got my Comptech Strut setting in my living room, can't wait to put that on too.
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Old Jan 13, 2003 | 10:37 AM
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I discovered why Acura went with stock sway bars...

"To hide how bad the stock tires are ..."

Before the CT sway bars: I was very scared to take corners at >40 MPH.. The body roll was scary... average joe would back off on the throtle beacuse of the body roll not losing traction or understeer...

After the CT sway bars: I can take corners at >40 MPH easy.. The body roll has gone... Now, YOU discover how the stock tires would squeal like PIGS and feel the need to have wider tires, Z rated Summer UHP tires... After which the CLS will hold corners like a mofo... it is only how much "brave or stupid" you can push it...
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Old Jan 13, 2003 | 10:40 AM
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Originally posted by edgalang
Been there & done that...TWICE! It's NOT the subframe that breaks, but it's the brackets and endlink bars that you should worry about. At least we now know that they are easy and cheap to replace ($15 from the dealer).

BTW...a bkoken bracket might look like this...



The full story can be viewed here...

I'll be installing my 25mm next weekend. I can't wait. i think i'm going to order a left and a right bracket and just keep them in my trunk incase of failure. where did you get them from?

Thanks for being the Guinea Pig.
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Old Jan 13, 2003 | 11:41 AM
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Originally posted by edgalang
Been there & done that...TWICE! It's NOT the subframe that breaks, but it's the brackets and endlink bars that you should worry about. At least we now know that they are easy and cheap to replace ($15 from the dealer).

BTW...a bkoken bracket might look like this...

The full story can be viewed here...

What needs to be done to reinforce the rear end? A body shop would do the reinforcing or who?


Tnx



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Old Jan 13, 2003 | 11:49 AM
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3 Questions about SWAYS.


Would it be best to replace the busings with Energy Suspension Polyurithane bushings when upgrading to an aftermarket sway?


I plan on installing a system. I was told that there would be an extra 400lbs added to the trunk. Now if I have that much weight in the trunk would it be best to go with the
Neuspeed 25mm?

When installing sways does it make the car feel like it is riding on rails? Kinda like how the car feels when ur doing 130+. The aerodynamic force that is placed on the car makes it squat and response it very accurate but not sudden. Will I be getting that kinda response from my sterring when I install sways?


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Old Jan 13, 2003 | 11:55 AM
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Re: Re: ? About CompTech Sways...

Originally posted by Wires
Like stated above, they are less hollow. Personally, I'd go for Neuspeed though. They're front bar ISN'T hollow like the Comptech (aka less body roll). I put the Comptech's on my '01 CL, and they were waaaayyy better than stock (still could be stiffer though). I'm finding that with the 6 speed and the HLSD, the I have more wheel hop, and the HLSD really contrubutes to body roll by making the car turn harder. I have a Nuespeed on order.
I agree that the neuspeeds would be better, that's what i'm waiting on as well before i upgrade my suspension.
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Old Jan 13, 2003 | 12:19 PM
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juker008, the added weight increases your the chance of the sway snapping the bracket. go with comptech.
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Old Jan 13, 2003 | 12:22 PM
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Originally posted by beerknurd
juker008, the added weight increases your the chance of the sway snapping the bracket. go with comptech.

Why would u say that? Go with CT, why the walls of the sway are thinner? Plz explain more.


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Old Jan 13, 2003 | 12:32 PM
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whether you go with CT, or Neuspeed, beerknurd is simply stating that the aftermarket sways are stronger and are more adept to handling the increased stress.

it's up to you to decide if you want CT or neuspeed. BUt definetly upgrade them.
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Old Jan 13, 2003 | 12:58 PM
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What's the cost if you upgrade your sways to CompTech plus installation? I'm just trying to get an idea of the price range.
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Old Jan 13, 2003 | 01:01 PM
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they run about $330 from Comptech but u can get then cheaper from a local shop.

I don't know what they run with installation. They should be easy enough to do them yourself though, they are just a bolt on peice.
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