6spd Elect. Throttle Limiter... 'stock'!!

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Old Oct 25, 2002 | 08:40 AM
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Originally posted by Wires
Just a FYI:

It's not SUPPOSED to happen, it just seems like the '03 models have this trait (some engineer at Acura probably was tweaking the tables for better emissions when cold, and kind of screwed up.)

I've taken mine in, but they could reproduce the problem. They then gave me some BS about it's the parts are tight, and that's the problem. Ok, whatever. (That was a couple of months ago).

I'd take it in and see (bitch too!) Tell them Mr. Internet says both '03 autos and manuals have this problem. Hopefully it'll become a TSB, and get fixed. It'll be just a computer code upgrade to fix it. I just don't know if it's gotten back to the Acura engineering that there is an issue.
Ahh ok...well next time I am out there I will talk to them about it. Thanks for the info tho!!
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Old Nov 15, 2002 | 10:04 PM
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WHOA crap! I was crusing around tonight and tried it!!!!

There is a momentary lag!!!! Good thing too because I could hear and feel the LSD pulsing power to each of the wheels trying to get some grip!

The engine was very warm as i was already driving for about 40mins so it's not because it was cold from sitting on the driveway.
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Old Nov 16, 2002 | 12:15 AM
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Guess I am a bit confused there, Zapata. If the LSD was working it was because of loss of traction due to too much power per the available traction.

Not disagreeing, just looking for clarification.
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Old Nov 16, 2002 | 11:07 AM
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Originally posted by scalbert
Guess I am a bit confused there, Zapata. If the LSD was working it was because of loss of traction due to too much power per the available traction.

Not disagreeing, just looking for clarification.

Scalbert, sorry for the fuzzy post Heh. As allmotor describes as you punch the accelerator, you can hear the engine choke hard and then the power delivery. ONce that power delivery starts, i start to feel the LSD function. I was about 40 degrees outside.
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Old Nov 16, 2002 | 09:12 PM
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Gotcha...

I'll try and get some logs of my car monitoring the ignition timing when I go WOT. Also, try to see where the power starts coming back in, I would guess it to be about 4500 revs.
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Old Nov 16, 2002 | 11:58 PM
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Originally posted by NOLACLS
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH thank you so much! I feel the same thing...every morning in the same spot on the way to work....it like almost dies. damn ok well I am glad that it is "supposed" to happen because I was about to go to Acura and see if they can fix it. That would mean I would have to give them my car over night and wait and then they would probably tell me they cat feel it or they dont know what it is. Thank you so much for the info

Sooo it is something that is in need of fixing or is it just like that....cuz I can handel it once in the morning but not if its going to get worse.
Wow, me too.. I'm on the highway and very rarely, when I stomp on the gas (on my 2001 Accord V6 w/4spd auto, J30A1), I have the sensation of the engine choke momentarily at like 4900rpms and then as the revs continue toward 6 grand, it kicks in again, feels weird lol, but only rarely does it happen.
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Old Nov 17, 2002 | 12:22 AM
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Old Nov 17, 2002 | 12:25 PM
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Originally posted by scalbert
Gotcha...

I'll try and get some logs of my car monitoring the ignition timing when I go WOT. Also, try to see where the power starts coming back in, I would guess it to be about 4500 revs.

I'll have to try it again once it stops raining i don't really remember when the power comes back.
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Old Nov 17, 2002 | 01:12 PM
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The power comes back within a second... the power-band on this car is quite good. Obviously with the VTEC actuated its better, but the 'lag' on really in ANY RPM range... for the instant you floor it!
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Old Nov 17, 2002 | 02:04 PM
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Originally posted by allmotor_2000
The power comes back within a second... the power-band on this car is quite good. Obviously with the VTEC actuated its better, but the 'lag' on really in ANY RPM range... for the instant you floor it!
Did your NSX have the same feature? Wondering if Acura put it in so the FWD wouldn't break loose....not that it helps much.....
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Old Nov 17, 2002 | 04:14 PM
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NSX.. .No!

No... the NSX had nothing of the sort. The only similiar 'feature' it had was the TCS (Traction Control System) which checks to see if one wheel is spinning while the other is not and also if the RPM vs. Vehicle speed vs. Axle speed denotes a slippage condition. Nevertheless, there's a buttom on the dash to TURN IT OFF!!

Plus that car was geared different and is mid-enged RWD. Traction is NOT a problem. 2nd gear ends up at 80mph! I had the 5spd and I hear the CL-S 6spd gearing is more aggressive than the NSX 6spd (or probably the final drive might be different... I am not sure).

I think Honda will come up with a big bang when the new NSX is release... maybe 2005 time-frame. It will either have a 3.5 V-6 making 400hp or a V-8 making 400hp. From all the rumors... it will probably be a 3.5 V-6 using the i-VTEC system AND probably variable cam timing on BOTH intake and exhaust cams. If it does not have an aluminum body, expect pricing in the $60K-$70K range. There are rumors of a race-version with the V-8 that is around $120K or something like that.

Then again, Honda can take a plunge like Mercedes has recently and turbo-charge the beast from the factory!!

In case you guys haven't heard, the new Mercedes CL600 and S600 both have twin-turbo V-12's producing something like 500hp and 600ft-lbs of torque! Also, the new E55 (pretty small-car mercedes-standards) makes 469hp and 518 ft-lbs of torque enough to propel it to a 12.4 1/4-mile STOCK FROM THE FACTORY WITH WARRANTY!!!!!
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Old Nov 17, 2002 | 07:08 PM
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Ah yes the NSX layout......that car is perfect Nothing left to be said..... However, I am VERY VERY excited about the possibilities that could be in the new NSX. I would hope that Honda would go the hybrid route and set the standard again but we'll see

You really think Honda would consider a turbo? I saw that little write up about the variable-turbo system that honda was messing with a while back.

I would love to see that engine....can't think of the name....but it basically has variable compression based on RPM load in conjunction with i-vtec.
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Old Nov 18, 2002 | 12:36 PM
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i tried this in my car yesterday and i did feel the lag when i hit it at 2500 but i found that if i brought it up to 2500 and let my foot off the gas completely then floor it there isnt a lag at all
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Old Nov 18, 2002 | 02:30 PM
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I get the 2,000 rpm cold loop hesitation, too. So interesting to read other people have experienced it, too.
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