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Old 08-19-2002, 12:42 PM
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6MT clutch is crap...

I hate the clutch on my car... it kicks back a lot when you bring it up to the top and it's almost impossible for me to learn how to drive it very smoothly... it's great when I'm racing my buddies but damn this is rediculous if you can't just go cruisin' somewhere without it snapping back... I have to think to much abouteasing clutch and gas when I'm going through 1-2-3 gear shifts... lemme know if there's any way I can disable the stupid spring back motion...
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Well if you just picked it up a week ago, then give it some time. The CL-S clutch is different, & you will learn how to shift it right. It's not right to say the clutch is crap, if you have only had it a week.
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Man...wrong car to learn a clutch on...
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i was tought how to drive standard on a 4 door M3, new at the time///many years agp.

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Originally posted by amirsafdari
i was tought how to drive standard on a 4 door M3, new at the time///many years agp.

u stupid, stupid man!!!
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Well if you just picked it up a week ago, then give it some time. The CL-S clutch is different, & you will learn how to shift it right. It's not right to say the clutch is crap, if you have only had it a week.
I've driven manuals off and on pretty often... the kickback i'm talking about is just something that I've noticed on the CL alone... no other cars I've ever driven have had that feature... it's an annoyance and a hassle when trying to shift smoothly... also, in a week I've driven this car 1200 miles... some high way and a lot in the city...
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Originally posted by moomaster_99
Man...wrong car to learn a clutch on...


Keep practicing.
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dont say the transmission is crap it isnt the 6 speed in my car is amazing . its for real drivers-limited slip... its SUPPOSED to be like that. you need to learn how to drive.. sorry man. just get some better clutch control
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Old 08-19-2002, 01:42 PM
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i wouldnt call the clutch crap just because you dont know how to drive
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you got a really weak left leg or something? work out more
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You got no skillz mang. The clutch and tranny are some of the best out there. Learn to use them and they will reward you.
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It you need to baby it.....i had a VERY hard time at first but now it's all good. Nice smooth shifts....just remember to gas it a tad as well.

No you can't disable it....
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Old 08-19-2002, 02:03 PM
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I learned on my 330ci Now thats a hard clutch to learn on!!!
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I learned on a 88 Ford bronco II. After driving that I seem to be able to drive anything stick.
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Talking about clutches this one is for GOOD drivers...not AMATEURS. Drive a corvette or a cobra, Same type of clutch. I have driven them and was Really happy to see this in Acura.!!

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Originally posted by purplehaze
Talking about clutches this one is for GOOD drivers...not AMATEURS. Drive a corvette or a cobra, Same type of clutch. I have driven them and was Really happy to see this in Acura.!!

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Yeah first couple of days driving my car

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I know exactly what you mean. I went back to the dealer and drove the car twice with the stick before making up my mind. I had alot of muscle cars in the past, but this clutch is too "sticky" for me, so I opted for the auto. I do think though, the more experience you get driving it, the better you will do.
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Old 08-19-2002, 03:38 PM
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you guys wont believe this, but last night i raced a new m3, and i was pulling on him...at the light, he told me he wasn't the best driver..i admire his honesty...then i smelt clutch...poor kid
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Originally posted by purplehaze
Talking about clutches this one is for GOOD drivers...not AMATEURS. Drive a corvette or a cobra, Same type of clutch. I have driven them and was Really happy to see this in Acura.!!

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Please "GOOD" drivers has nothing to do with it... when you've got a car with 350+ HP then you need to have a very sticky clutch... and those are not supposed to be luxury cars... those are high performance racing style cars... made for a completely different market... drive the M3... not even close to as sticky as this... think before you speak...
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Originally posted by civic4982


Please "GOOD" drivers has nothing to do with it... when you've got a car with 350+ HP then you need to have a very sticky clutch... and those are not supposed to be luxury cars... those are high performance racing style cars... made for a completely different market... drive the M3... not even close to as sticky as this... think before you speak...



think before you speak.............who's talkin,........you called the clutch crap because you dont know how to drive...............its operator error not the fault of the clutch:P ...........in fact get in your car, take it back to the dealer, and beg them to let you trade it for an auto................then maybe someone who can drive a manual will buy it and not come here crying the clutch sucks because they dony know how to use it
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Old 08-19-2002, 05:19 PM
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It took me about a month to get fully hooked up with my 6sp cl-s. It is so much easier to shift than my previous MX-6. the takeup point is very low, and so it takes a ibt of delicate balance of clutch and gas, but once you've got it down, it's sheer delight.
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Old 08-19-2002, 05:20 PM
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Maybe he has a point - maybe the clutch is a little too sporty for the car it's in.
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Maybe he has a point - maybe the clutch is a little too sporty for the car it's in.
I disagree. The reason they put a six speed manual transmission is to give this luxury coupe some more 'sportiness'. You don't put a manual transmission in a luxury car because you want luxury. There isn't even a discount for the manual transmission as there is in many low-end cars.
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Old 08-19-2002, 05:39 PM
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I also agree with what some others have said: once you get your feet, legs, and brain used to the clutch, you can make gear transitions that are silkier then any auto. It's not 'unlearnable' in the least.
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Originally posted by jts1207





think before you speak.............who's talkin,........you called the clutch crap because you dont know how to drive...............its operator error not the fault of the clutch:P ...........in fact get in your car, take it back to the dealer, and beg them to let you trade it for an auto................then maybe someone who can drive a manual will buy it and not come here crying the clutch sucks because they dony know how to use it

take it easy bro.....new dude was just commenting....yah it's a bit whiney but no need to ask the guy to take it back etc.,
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It doesn't matter how many of your friend's sticks you have driven. It's really about how long you have driven it....it took me 2 less than 2 weeks to get shifting and playing with the clutch to get it down to where its natural...this is on a miata...absolutely the best clutch to learn on tho...
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A good driver can drive anything
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Old 08-19-2002, 07:52 PM
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Sorry…..after reading all this CRAP I just have to comment.
I’ve been driving stick shift cars for the last 20-years and have logged well over 450,000-miles while using BOTH feet to drive.
I’ve driven everything with three pedals from a VW Rabbit to a 24-Foot long U-Haul with "3 on the tree".

The 2003 CL-S clutch is one of the best I have driven so far.
It’s been since 1995 that I had the chance to tool around in an NSX for the day, but I seem to remember the “abruptly grabbing clutch” and tight gate was quite familiar to what’s sitting out in my garage right now.

Yes, the clutch is tricky and it takes a bit to master it, but the rewards are well worth it.
Whenever you read about a test drive of a Lamborghini or Ferrari they always seem to describe the “enjoyment” of learning to properly drive them.
The same is true of the meek little CL.

Acura did a WONDERFUL job with the CL-S Tranny and I think they made all the right decisions.
I’ve only stalled the thing TWICE so far and both times were within the first two weeks.

I’ll be adding another 100,000-miles to my 3-pedal enjoyment and loving every minute of it.

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Yeah you're right that clutch is CRAP ...Why don't you let me take it off your hands.

I'll be willing to do an even trade with you, my automatic shifts very smoothly...

I'll even throw in my I/H/E & 18's.

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I've driven manuals off and on pretty often... the kickback i'm talking about is just something that I've noticed on the CL alone... no other cars I've ever driven have had that feature... it's an annoyance and a hassle when trying to shift smoothly... also, in a week I've driven this car 1200 miles... some high way and a lot in the city...
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i agree with Shawn

I started out in little 4 door Volkswagon Rabbit Diesel with 54 horsepower..LOL..WOW!!.. I loved that thing cause I got about 50 miles to a gallon of fuel....LOL... I drove a stick for the past 10 years. I drove my friends 2002 Celica the other night and then jumped into the seat of my CL-S and I almost shit my pants.. His car is junk. I almost stalled my car for the 2nd time since i bought it.. I will never go backwards when buying a new car. I expect only a Vette or M3 on my next purchase in 5 years or so. A Ford Lightning would be nice. But just relax with it, go drive alittle 4 banger stick and then jump in your car and see the big difference. Try feathering the gas and letting the clutch out slowly...How old are you anyways? you sound very young, I am guessing under 20...
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there is a car called the rabbit?
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there is a car called the rabbit?
yes they kicked ASS!!!! they aren't around.
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Yeah

Pretty funny huh.... 1984 Volkswagon Rabbit...4 door.. 5-speed Diesel... they made them from 82-85 I think. You could opt for the gas or diesel auto or manual, 2 door of 4 both with rear hatch. The damn car is still in my family too, got over 250,000 miles on the body and 134K on the 2nd motor....LOL... My dad drives it too and from work since he works at a Chemical plant and he is not worried about the paint job getting ruined... I just laugh at him when I go visit him....

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White Volkswagen Convertible Rabbit = ultimate 80's sorority girl car.

Like, totally. F'sure.

(No offense Smitty)
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smitty,
if you ever want to sell that car i'll buy it!!!!!! I love those cars!
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How does CLS 6spd compares to an s2k 6spd? I drove both but dont remember how the CLS felt. The s2k was very nice, good for heel-and-toeing, smooth close ratio short throw 6spd.

I would think they are similar as they are both honda intended to handle 240hp plus.
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This guy rules at local autox (Spokes). Pax'd results of course. It's a VW Scirocco, basically same thing as a Rabbit.

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Thats a VW Shadow, , my neighbor named his dog after it...
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i'm not exactly sure about any of this clutch business, but i have an 03 cls 6mt, and it drove, for about this first week, beautifully. Now though, it is way too stiff and it feels as if there is just way too much pressure, CERTAINLY much more pressure than i felt the first week of driving it. i loved it the first week, now i'm getting annoyed ... oh well, i have an appointment tomorrow with service at Keyes Acura at 1:30p... wish me satisfaction... thx
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Oh, I HOPE I GET A LOANER NSX!@#!@# heh.
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