540 vs g35c
08-25-2003, 08:22 PM
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Originally posted by 1SICKLEX
Driver's race. The cars are equal. The ONLY chance I got to run a manual, the guy panicked, missed 3rd gear and I walked him. I would say he was slightly ahead, by a nose. This was when I was stock.
Autos, on the highway the cars pull even up to 120mph+. The winner is the better driver around any traffic.
I met a 540 manual guy as he was interested in the GS (reliablity issues). He was a car guy, owned a 911 turbo as well. This is my car with SRT Intake and upgraded suspension. We took his car through the backroads first. He drove then I drove it. Amazing for a stock car, it was a MANUAL, sweet as can be.
We then drove my car the same way (hard) on the same roads. We both concluded, acceleration was even or negligable if one was faster. My car handled much more flatter than his and we took my car at higher speeds in the twisties. My brakes (upgraded too) were better. Feel was better in his car, due to tight steering and the manual.
That is why I really LAUGH as guys that have no clue. When a magazine gets 6.1 and another car 5.9 (for example) it's a drivers race. I say a car a truly faster when it is .5 seconds faster than another car. Then driver error can be overcome through the power of the larger or better engine.
And as someone has stated, PLEEEEEEEEEEEEASE don't quote ONLY what u want.
For example, Altima owners love quoting that 5.9 sec for the manual and 6.2 for the auto but never mention the 7.1 in Road and Track.
Driver's race. The cars are equal. The ONLY chance I got to run a manual, the guy panicked, missed 3rd gear and I walked him. I would say he was slightly ahead, by a nose. This was when I was stock.
Autos, on the highway the cars pull even up to 120mph+. The winner is the better driver around any traffic.
I met a 540 manual guy as he was interested in the GS (reliablity issues). He was a car guy, owned a 911 turbo as well. This is my car with SRT Intake and upgraded suspension. We took his car through the backroads first. He drove then I drove it. Amazing for a stock car, it was a MANUAL, sweet as can be.
We then drove my car the same way (hard) on the same roads. We both concluded, acceleration was even or negligable if one was faster. My car handled much more flatter than his and we took my car at higher speeds in the twisties. My brakes (upgraded too) were better. Feel was better in his car, due to tight steering and the manual.
That is why I really LAUGH as guys that have no clue. When a magazine gets 6.1 and another car 5.9 (for example) it's a drivers race. I say a car a truly faster when it is .5 seconds faster than another car. Then driver error can be overcome through the power of the larger or better engine.
And as someone has stated, PLEEEEEEEEEEEEASE don't quote ONLY what u want.
For example, Altima owners love quoting that 5.9 sec for the manual and 6.2 for the auto but never mention the 7.1 in Road and Track.
you said it, .5 seconds and above......
08-25-2003, 10:12 PM
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Well, I know the G35 is a pretty fast car...I know the manual is quick as well. It will be pretty close but I still would give the 540 an edge
Fuck it, I'll kill a G35 with my car
more than .5 sec too!
Fuck it, I'll kill a G35 with my car
more than .5 sec too!
08-26-2003, 06:35 AM
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I think it would be a close race but while Nissan overstates HP numbers, BMW understates them. The weird thing is 280hp from a V-6 and the 540 has "only" 282 hp from it's 4.4. ( I like the BMW only).
G35s coupes are very quick cars off the line in manual and auto forms don't sleep. Shit, I really can't call it. I can say I have seen 6 second plus figures in magazines for the G35c and I have always seen sub 6 second figures for the 540.
I think it would be a close race but while Nissan overstates HP numbers, BMW understates them. The weird thing is 280hp from a V-6 and the 540 has "only" 282 hp from it's 4.4. ( I like the BMW only).
G35s coupes are very quick cars off the line in manual and auto forms don't sleep. Shit, I really can't call it. I can say I have seen 6 second plus figures in magazines for the G35c and I have always seen sub 6 second figures for the 540.
08-26-2003, 01:13 PM
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I can recall an issue with the maxima where Nissan had overstated the HP (some said to make it higher than the 3.5 Altima), and I thought they have since admitted wrong doing etc from what I understand. Do you have any proof that the G35's HP is overrated? Saying that they blanketly overstate their numbers on all their vehicles seems a little presumptuous. Just looking for facts
I think the G35hp is dang near underated. I think sedans make 280hp too.
08-28-2003, 02:41 PM
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yea the hp on the q45 is soo over rated....
1siclex,
i have driven a ls430( 10 less hp than a GS4), and a 540 auto, i dont think theres any way the Lex can hang w/ the bimmer
1siclex,
i have driven a ls430( 10 less hp than a GS4), and a 540 auto, i dont think theres any way the Lex can hang w/ the bimmer
08-28-2003, 04:34 PM
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i have driven a ls430( 10 less hp than a GS4), and a 540 auto, i dont think theres any way the Lex can hang w/ the bimmer
08-28-2003, 10:50 PM
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U OWE it to yourself to drive the GS 400 and let it push you back in your seat. Funny, only 6 years ago, it was the worlds fastest automatic sedan. Mercedes (AMG) sure shot that to hell, lmao!
08-29-2003, 12:16 AM
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I still remember that silly commercial that tried to make the GS seem creepy...to be like that weird book from high school, "Something wicked this way comes". Remember the lines, 1sick?
A v8 screams from down its throne,
yada yada yada
yada yada yada
when something wicked this way comes.
Wasn't that the year it won motor trend import COY award?
Ahh, memories.
A v8 screams from down its throne,
yada yada yada
yada yada yada
when something wicked this way comes.
Wasn't that the year it won motor trend import COY award?
Ahh, memories.
09-03-2003, 05:20 PM
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ATLcl98, it was a Shakespare quote. I forgot what story of his. I think the one with the ass.
400 faster than 430 cause of e-shift. 430s have no e-shift. Both have 300 hp but the 430 makes peak hp 1000rpm lower, I think 5200 RPM. 400 has 310 lbs torque and 430 320 lbs torque
400 faster than 430 cause of e-shift. 430s have no e-shift. Both have 300 hp but the 430 makes peak hp 1000rpm lower, I think 5200 RPM. 400 has 310 lbs torque and 430 320 lbs torque
09-03-2003, 06:34 PM
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The Z is not overrated. There have been some crappy dyno's, but there have also been MANY excellent dyno's - A few in the 248-252whp range fully stock. We all know many factors can influence dyno's.
Saying a blanket statement that Nissan overrates their HP is stupid.
The Q45 hp was not overrated. It was a combination of grears and ECU tuning. The new tune, it makes all of it's claimed HP
Saying a blanket statement that Nissan overrates their HP is stupid.
The Q45 hp was not overrated. It was a combination of grears and ECU tuning. The new tune, it makes all of it's claimed HP
09-03-2003, 06:38 PM
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Darrinb: I would KILL for a friendly run with you in my Z. I'd even race you where I'd pay you $50 if you win, and I'd take nothing but your pride if you lose. If you are ever in the NY area, hit me up.
I had a CLS auto with almost the exact same mods as you. OBX headers, Intake, etc... Yes, the CLS is fast. I ran a 9.31 1/8th (14.3-14.4), but let me tell you - my CLS was not nearly as fast as my Z.
I had a CLS auto with almost the exact same mods as you. OBX headers, Intake, etc... Yes, the CLS is fast. I ran a 9.31 1/8th (14.3-14.4), but let me tell you - my CLS was not nearly as fast as my Z.
09-03-2003, 06:39 PM
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Last post before I'm labeled a PW. I raced my friend's 540 auto with my CLS (I/H) about a year ago. It was a dead even race. So I find it hard to believe a G35c lost that badly to an Auto 540
09-03-2003, 08:41 PM
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aight cusdaddy, i doubt i'll ever be in nyc, but lemme know if ur ever over here
how fast did u race ur friend 540 till, i can beat my friend till like 80ish then he slowly pulls on me, i dont want to take it into triple digit speeds w/ the 540 or it will get really ugly fo rme past 110
just take your Z to the track and we can compare #'s, i aint sayin i'm faster than u, with the right driver your car is faster than mine, but i know for sure i can take an auto g or z
how fast did u race ur friend 540 till, i can beat my friend till like 80ish then he slowly pulls on me, i dont want to take it into triple digit speeds w/ the 540 or it will get really ugly fo rme past 110
just take your Z to the track and we can compare #'s, i aint sayin i'm faster than u, with the right driver your car is faster than mine, but i know for sure i can take an auto g or z
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Originally posted by 1SICKLEX
ATLcl98, it was a Shakespare quote. I forgot what story of his. I think the one with the ass.
400 faster than 430 cause of e-shift. 430s have no e-shift. Both have 300 hp but the 430 makes peak hp 1000rpm lower, I think 5200 RPM. 400 has 310 lbs torque and 430 320 lbs torque
ATLcl98, it was a Shakespare quote. I forgot what story of his. I think the one with the ass.
400 faster than 430 cause of e-shift. 430s have no e-shift. Both have 300 hp but the 430 makes peak hp 1000rpm lower, I think 5200 RPM. 400 has 310 lbs torque and 430 320 lbs torque
09-04-2003, 06:29 AM
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Originally posted by darrinb
just take your Z to the track and we can compare #'s, i
just take your Z to the track and we can compare #'s, i
Once again, I would put money on it that if you were to run at Atlanta Dragway you would not break into the 14's. Does that mean you car is slower, no. It is a different track in a different area and cannot be compared.
The only real comparisons should be made with vehicles running at the same track on the same day.
ET's are for bragging but are worthless for a true comparison of vehicles.
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Well, I can't get a Z to run me to save my life. They all back down and will not punch it. DarrinB, you can gateshift but it's no where close to as fast as E-shift to the computer. Besides we are talking .1 or .2 seconds slower 0-60. On the other hand Motor Trend got a 13.9 sec 1/4 mile run in a GS 430. 
The Q45 is a slow pig to have 340hp period. And every magazine has stated what I found out driving it, it ain't no where close to a sports sedan.
Nissan's best cars are their cheaper ones, the Z and G35.
The Q45 hp was not overrated. It was a combination of grears and ECU tuning. The new tune, it makes all of it's claimed HP
Nissan's best cars are their cheaper ones, the Z and G35.
09-05-2003, 11:58 AM
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i raced one ( a 540i, that is) back in june. i posted the results on 6mt.net. ill tell the story here too......
so these are my results. pretty even if you ask me.....
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Dateline - Austin TX
on my way to the office to do some painting. minding my own at light on parmer, listening to joe budden ("telling me she dont give brain like im stupid........."). notice a nice silver 5 series in the far left lane (im in the far right). didnt know if it was a 530 or 540 but i did notice the meaty split-five 18s on it. so the light turns green and he hammers it. i take off normally and notice his antics. shift to 2nd and floor it. i get behind him. it is a 540. i ve always wanted to try one in my GS. is now the chance? he slows as we have to take a sweeping right to get onto mopac. he absolutely flies through the turn...........much faster than i am accustom to taking it. so we get on the on-ramp to the highway. i guess he noticed me because he slows down his manic pace. i pull to the right and get beside him. look over and wave, he smiles and points forward........the good part.
we're going about 60, i shift to 3rd and wait. i assume that he is too sophisticated for the 3 honks thing, so i pace him. i notice that his car lurches downward, downshift i assume. i look over again and he gives me the thumbs up and punches it. i was ready............we both take off even. by the end of 3rd, i have crept ever so slightly. shift to 4th, pull about a half a car. by the shift to 5th, his nose was at my rear bumper. i shut it down as i am not too fond of speeds over 120 on a public road . it was over. no doubt about the results. the guy goes by me, waves and gives the thumbs up. wow, and i thought all BMW drivers were pricks. really made the painting alot less tedious..........
Dateline - Austin TX
on my way to the office to do some painting. minding my own at light on parmer, listening to joe budden ("telling me she dont give brain like im stupid........."). notice a nice silver 5 series in the far left lane (im in the far right). didnt know if it was a 530 or 540 but i did notice the meaty split-five 18s on it. so the light turns green and he hammers it. i take off normally and notice his antics. shift to 2nd and floor it. i get behind him. it is a 540. i ve always wanted to try one in my GS. is now the chance? he slows as we have to take a sweeping right to get onto mopac. he absolutely flies through the turn...........much faster than i am accustom to taking it. so we get on the on-ramp to the highway. i guess he noticed me because he slows down his manic pace. i pull to the right and get beside him. look over and wave, he smiles and points forward........the good part.
we're going about 60, i shift to 3rd and wait. i assume that he is too sophisticated for the 3 honks thing, so i pace him. i notice that his car lurches downward, downshift i assume. i look over again and he gives me the thumbs up and punches it. i was ready............we both take off even. by the end of 3rd, i have crept ever so slightly. shift to 4th, pull about a half a car. by the shift to 5th, his nose was at my rear bumper. i shut it down as i am not too fond of speeds over 120 on a public road . it was over. no doubt about the results. the guy goes by me, waves and gives the thumbs up. wow, and i thought all BMW drivers were pricks. really made the painting alot less tedious..........
Doc
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