Nashua_Night_Hawk

From The Goverment site here: http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/pr.../tsbsearch.cfm

It seems a bit too many TSBs for a 2 yrs car...

Loseit

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can you list em?

Zapata

lol, have you see what BMW has? Stop your whining and complaining for petes sake!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


64.........

330ci sedan 64
coupe has 62
lexus has 28
i30 has 62
a4 2.8 has 34

620401 NOV 01 Fuel Gauge - Does Not Read Full
640801 OCT 01 A/C Center Vents - Low/No Air Flow
110898 OCT 01 Engine - Oil Recommendations/Change Intervals
610201 OCT 01 Seat Heater - Headlights Dim/Idle Fluctuations
630401A OCT 01 Turn Signal lamp - Installation Procedure
630301 OCT 01 Xenon Headlamp Bulbs - Installation Tips
240198 SEP 01 A/T - Fluid Level Checking Procedure
510401 SEP 01 Door Edge Protector Seal - Rubs on Door Panel
610401 AUG 01 Windows (Side) - Won't Return to UP Position
720300 JUL 01 SRS - Warning Light ON/Multiple Fault Codes Set
320201 JUL 01 Steering Gear - Replacement Due to Accident Damage
650401 JUN 01 CD Changer - Installation
110101 JUN 01 Engine - MIL ON/Codes Set/Tapping/Rattling Noise
841197 JUN 01 Navigation System - Numerous Failures/Malfunctions
840401 MAY 01 Battery - Disconnecting Procedure With MK3 Nav System
340101 MAR 01 DSC MK60 - Fault Code Descriptions
630201 MAR 01 Light Bulb - Replacement Guidelines
720101 MAR 01 Seat Belts - Click/Rattle From Upper Mount
360401 MAR 01 Tires - Original Equipment
840201 FEB 01 Audio System - Delayed Sound/No Audio Display
840101 FEB 01 Cellular Phone - No Volume Adjustment
090101 FEB 01 Vehicle and Key - Memory Programming
630101 FEB 01 Xenon Lamp Bulb - Color Change After Operation
640101 JAN 01 A/C System - Musty Odors
611600 JAN 01 Battery - Maintenance
120101 JAN 01 MIL ON - No Faults Displayed
241100 DEC 00 A/T - Will Not Upshift/Goes To Fail-Safe Mode
160400 DEC 00 Check Engine Lamp ON/DTC's Stored
841200 DEC 00 Digital Cellular Phone - Training/Troubleshooting Manual
111190 DEC 00 Engine - Oil Capacities With Filter Change
410200 DEC 00 Interior - Wind Buffeting
121300 DEC 00 MIL ON - DTC FC142 Set
160300 DEC 00 MIL ON - DTC FC142 Stored
650200 DEC 00 Radio/CD Player - Intermittently CD won't Eject
540700 DEC 00 Sunroof - Intermittently Inoperative
110901 DEC 00 Thermal Oil Level Sensor - Operation and Diagnosis
180299 NOV 00 Exhaust System - Back Pressure Checking Tool
510500 NOV 00 Passenger Mirror - Moves When Reverse Is Selected
330200 NOV 00 Rear Differential - Whine Noise
120199 NOV 00 Spark Plugs - Application Chart
240500 OCT 00 A/T - 5L40E MIL ON, DTC FC60 Set in TCM
240900 OCT 00 A/T - Repair/Replacement Guidelines
720897 OCT 00 Airbags - Deactivation
121100 OCT 00 Computer & Controls - DME Module Removal Precautions
241000 OCT 00 Engine Control Module - MS 43 Removal Precautions
121200 OCT 00 Throttle Control - EDK Throttle Adaptation Procedure
840900 SEP 00 Cellular Phone Antenna - Installation At PDI
650499 AUG 00 Audio System - Test CD/Tape
610800 AUG 00 Electrical - Closed Circuit Current Measurement
620400 AUG 00 IC Conversion - Km/h to Mph or Mph to Km/h
230200 AUG 00 M/T - Oil Fill/Drain Plugs Updated
650599 AUG 00 Radio - Security Codes in The DCS
720200 JUL 00 Airbag Control Module - Warning Light ON/Codes Set
510400 JUL 00 Door Sound/Vapor Barrier - Water Leaks
610500 JUL 00 Electrical Connnectors - Stabilant 22A Contact Enhancer
720399 JUL 00 Rear Airbag - Activation/Deactivation
360200 JUL 00 Tires and Wheels - Applications
610700 JUL 00 Windshield Wiper Blades - Noisy/Not Cleaning Well
120700 JUN 00 Fuel Tank Leak Detection - DMTL Test Plan Error
620200 JUN 00 Instrument Cluster - Erratic Operation Diagnosis
640100 MAY 00 A/C - IHKA Module LED in A/C Button FLASHES
240800 MAY 00 A/T - Fault Code 48, TCC Solenoid
160100 MAY 00 Fuel System - MIL ON, Tank Leakage Fault Codes
630100 JAN 00 Headlamps - New Vertical Adjustment Settings
330299 APR 99 Rear Suspension - Pops or Snaps on Dips and Bumps
620279 NOV 79 Turn Signal Indicator - Inoperative/Circuit Change

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HellaWhat

Not to fucking mention you are bitching about 54 TSB's of which the last one was posted in AUGUST of 2002; it's been 5 months! QUIT WHINING.

tsk tsk, anyone say RES??

CLUofI

now did the BMW have alot because it is not built right or because BMW wants it to be perfect, and admits when something isnt.

Zapata

What kind of attitude is that? BMW's intentions are pure and Acura's aren't?

Loseit

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bwhahahahahha

i was thinking of a nice way to ask him if he was on crack!! I guess you did!!! bhahahahah

peiqinglong

Atleast there are TSBs....I would hate to blow a tire and roll over...

Slimey

:whocares:

Automobiles are conglomerations of mechanical parts controlled by computer hardware prone to design bugs and excessive or unexpected wear. They are put together on assembly lines by both humans and machine. What do you expect?

A 100% prefectly made car is an oxymoron.

To be reasonable, I don't think we should expect a 100% perfect car. Rather, we should expect good service when there is a problem, especially when it's associated with manufacture. The TSB gives the dealers instructions on how to fix the more common problems. Hence, Acura is attempting to resolve problems.

Obviously, people's experience with Acura service is mixed and seems to be dealer dependent so YMMV.

Zapata

mrdeeno

110898 OCT 01 Engine - Oil Recommendations/Change Intervals 630401A OCT 01 Turn Signal lamp - Installation Procedure
630301 OCT 01 Xenon Headlamp Bulbs - Installation Tips
240198 SEP 01 A/T - Fluid Level Checking Procedure
320201 JUL 01 Steering Gear - Replacement Due to Accident Damage
650401 JUN 01 CD Changer - Installation
840401 MAY 01 Battery - Disconnecting Procedure With MK3 Nav System
340101 MAR 01 DSC MK60 - Fault Code Descriptions
630201 MAR 01 Light Bulb - Replacement Guidelines
360401 MAR 01 Tires - Original Equipment
090101 FEB 01 Vehicle and Key - Memory Programming
630101 FEB 01 Xenon Lamp Bulb - Color Change After Operation
611600 JAN 01 Battery - Maintenance
841200 DEC 00 Digital Cellular Phone - Training/Troubleshooting Manual
111190 DEC 00 Engine - Oil Capacities With Filter Change
110901 DEC 00 Thermal Oil Level Sensor - Operation and Diagnosis
180299 NOV 00 Exhaust System - Back Pressure Checking Tool
120199 NOV 00 Spark Plugs - Application Chart
720897 OCT 00 Airbags - Deactivation
121100 OCT 00 Computer & Controls - DME Module Removal Precautions
241000 OCT 00 Engine Control Module - MS 43 Removal Precautions
840900 SEP 00 Cellular Phone Antenna - Installation At PDI
650499 AUG 00 Audio System - Test CD/Tape
610800 AUG 00 Electrical - Closed Circuit Current Measurement
620400 AUG 00 IC Conversion - Km/h to Mph or Mph to Km/h
230200 AUG 00 M/T - Oil Fill/Drain Plugs Updated
650599 AUG 00 Radio - Security Codes in The DCS
720399 JUL 00 Rear Airbag - Activation/Deactivation
360200 JUL 00 Tires and Wheels - Applications


These are 29 TSB's that have nothing to do with quality or problems except to provide information to dealers concerning changes or something they should be aware of.

take for example
620400 AUG 00 IC Conversion - Km/h to Mph or Mph to Km/h

it seems like you are more concerned with the quantity rather than the substance of the TSB. Oh well, I guess Acura cars suck because the techs need to convert MPH to km/h.

Tom2

Not to start a war or anything, but it's pretty much accepted among those in the auto industry that Honda/Acura have a reputation for "hiding" problems.

I believe they're trying to protect their reputation of high quality, at the cost of alienating faithful/loyal customers.

I can't tell you how many times I've read people complaining (on other auto forums) about how Honda/Acura won't put out a TSB or issue a recall for certain problems..... And then the dealers won't admit that it's a widespread problem at all.....

I dunno, I think Honda is making a big mistake with their approach.

Nashua_Night_Hawk

And ...I am not bitching.. I love my CLS....

Rod

But how much better are other auto companies in dealing with these types of situations? I mean, if a company can conceal a problem it will obviously choose to do so and Honda obviously tried to hide the tranny issue for a very long time and didn't admit to it existing until it became so obvious that they really had no other choice. How did BMW handle the M3's blowing engines? Where they any better? Did they step up to the plate before it was "necessary" or did they also wait until it was an obvious issue?

patsmere

Who cares how many TSB's there are. Everyone knows that, when a company redesigns a car there are alot of bugs to fix. Also as stated before, most of the TSB are for informational purposes. So dont worry how many if none of them effect you at all. Who cares if Honda/Acura wont say whats wrong with there Autos. Its there choice and we can not change what there approach on business is. Apparently its not bad because they keep selling cars. JMO

mrdeeno

even if Acura goes public with the cause of the tranny problem, would most non-engineering people understand it?

It's all hogwash...they admit there is a problem, and they say if you have it, they will fix it.

How long did it take for toyota to admit there is a sludge problem in their 3.0L v6? How long did it take bmw to admit there is a problem with M3 engines? How long did it take for MB to admit that their initial quality has slid to hell?

ALL companies try to play down issues...is it called "hiding them" like mitsu did? If Honda was hiding this, why are there so many TSBs? Does BMW issue recalls to boost its image? Did toyota admit that it is a quality issue with the sludge problem? They STILL insist it's abuse and lack of maintenance, even after offering an extended warranty on the engine.

Find me a company that does not try to "downplay" issues...Honda is no different than any of them out there.

BSK181

bmw handled its m3 blown engines really well

they made people pay for them to be replaced

at 15k or more a pop

NOLACLS

Ohh Ohh I did I did hahaha

Tom2

No, they didn't.