3rd Generation CL?
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We've been talking about this since 2003 when the CL was discontinued...
Vtec.net still lists a ~$40-50k pricerange, sub NSX Unnamed (Acura) Sports Car/Coupe...
http://vtec.net/modelmatrix/
With even the lowly Altima getting a coupe version ( https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...ma#post5124704 ), you would think by now Acura would have a coupe in their lineup... The NSX is still a couple years away, the RSX is gone (not really a coupe, but a hatchback anyways), so only time will tell if Acura wants to be the luxury brand without a coupe...
Maybe once the NSX is done Acura will concentrate on an affordable coupe, but I've already started looking elsewhere for my next car...
Vtec.net still lists a ~$40-50k pricerange, sub NSX Unnamed (Acura) Sports Car/Coupe...
http://vtec.net/modelmatrix/
With even the lowly Altima getting a coupe version ( https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...ma#post5124704 ), you would think by now Acura would have a coupe in their lineup... The NSX is still a couple years away, the RSX is gone (not really a coupe, but a hatchback anyways), so only time will tell if Acura wants to be the luxury brand without a coupe...
Maybe once the NSX is done Acura will concentrate on an affordable coupe, but I've already started looking elsewhere for my next car...
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By 2008, Acura wants to put out a new 2009 NSX V-10 front engine, but most likely it will have SH-AWD.
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...leId=100707399
here's the link.
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...leId=100707399
here's the link.
#7
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Acura's next coupe is rumored to be off the lowly TSX. ugh. and maybe a convertible ugh.
ok, let's drop the Prelude, the Legend Coupe, the NSX, the RSX, the Integra, and the CLS.
Done.
Now buy a sedan or an SUV, dammit.
ok, let's drop the Prelude, the Legend Coupe, the NSX, the RSX, the Integra, and the CLS.
Done.
Now buy a sedan or an SUV, dammit.
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i have to say i think the most realistic coupe we see next will be a TSX variant w/ 4 cyl turbo (rdx) and sh-awd, but more than likely fwd is acura decides not to move everything over to awd. then i'd wager we see a v8 in the RL, and then a higher end v8/v10 coupe to follow, we MIGHT even see a concept v8 at the auto show next year, but i still dont think itll be released before the upgrade to the RL
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god forbid someone start a thread without performing a search first...
you all need to not take yourselves so seriously and get over your internet protocols for how you think this forum should be used. it's amazing anyone new sticks around with the responses I see around here.
it's a forum, not a search engine.
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you all need to not take yourselves so seriously and get over your internet protocols for how you think this forum should be used. it's amazing anyone new sticks around with the responses I see around here.
it's a forum, not a search engine.
//end 2 cents
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Originally Posted by AustinTaper
god forbid someone start a thread without performing a search first...
you all need to not take yourselves so seriously and get over your internet protocols for how you think this forum should be used. it's amazing anyone new sticks around with the responses I see around here.
it's a forum, not a search engine.
//end 2 cents
you all need to not take yourselves so seriously and get over your internet protocols for how you think this forum should be used. it's amazing anyone new sticks around with the responses I see around here.
it's a forum, not a search engine.
//end 2 cents
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Originally Posted by GreenMonster
Maybe once the NSX is done Acura will concentrate on an affordable coupe, but I've already started looking elsewhere for my next car...
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How many of the current CL owners could even afford a new CL IF Acura even decided to build it? Realistically? I couldn't to be perfectly honest, at least not right now.
If I had to guess, I'd say a new model would fall between $40k - $50k+ like GM stated depending on what it's based off of. I think it would be pretty stupid for Honda to build one based off of anything less than a TL and as it stands right now, the TL Type S is going for about $38k+ MSRP as I just looked at one a little over a week ago. IMHO, it is NOT worth it. The competition stomps Acura as far as I'm concerned when it comes to getting the power to the ground. Come on, FWD!? What a waste. Furthermore, if it does in fact turn out to be moreless a V-10, AWD, NSX replacement, forget about it. Thats gonna run you over $75k and probably closer to $100k and now you're talking exotic, not luxury coupe. It's not even remotely close to a "CL replacement", it's an NSX replacement. So where does that leave us? With no CL replacement.
Also, even if they come out with a turbo charged TSX variant coupe, like CleanCL said, you're still more than likely talking 4cyl w/FWD. Again, not a CL replacement.
Also, I don't follow any of the other boards so I can't state any facts on the subject but if Honda's not putting a V8 into the Ridgeline, what makes you guys think you will see one in the RL or any other future sedan? If there is talk about a V8 in the truck, I'd like to know about it. Personally, I don't think the truck can stand up to competition without it. However, I do like the truck but unless it had that V8 or the proverbial V10 I'd never even consider it.
Just sharing my , not trying to bash anyone by any means.
If I had to guess, I'd say a new model would fall between $40k - $50k+ like GM stated depending on what it's based off of. I think it would be pretty stupid for Honda to build one based off of anything less than a TL and as it stands right now, the TL Type S is going for about $38k+ MSRP as I just looked at one a little over a week ago. IMHO, it is NOT worth it. The competition stomps Acura as far as I'm concerned when it comes to getting the power to the ground. Come on, FWD!? What a waste. Furthermore, if it does in fact turn out to be moreless a V-10, AWD, NSX replacement, forget about it. Thats gonna run you over $75k and probably closer to $100k and now you're talking exotic, not luxury coupe. It's not even remotely close to a "CL replacement", it's an NSX replacement. So where does that leave us? With no CL replacement.
Also, even if they come out with a turbo charged TSX variant coupe, like CleanCL said, you're still more than likely talking 4cyl w/FWD. Again, not a CL replacement.
Also, I don't follow any of the other boards so I can't state any facts on the subject but if Honda's not putting a V8 into the Ridgeline, what makes you guys think you will see one in the RL or any other future sedan? If there is talk about a V8 in the truck, I'd like to know about it. Personally, I don't think the truck can stand up to competition without it. However, I do like the truck but unless it had that V8 or the proverbial V10 I'd never even consider it.
Just sharing my , not trying to bash anyone by any means.
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Originally Posted by fuzzy02CLS
There is a CL replacement. It's called the Accord coupe.
EX-L V-6 6MT with Honda Satellite-Linked Navigation System™ Manual Transmission
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EX-L V-6 6MT with Honda Satellite-Linked Navigation System™ Manual Transmission
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Forget it, not only did they discontinue the whole slew of Acura coupes, but they also discontinued the S2K, and now have NO rwd options avaiilable. So now you get no coupe or rwd. I don't see the difficulty in entering a market that is doing so awesome, with the 3 series, IS350/250, the G35, hell, even the MB CLK, i mean, there is a market for a simple rwd coupe styled after the TL for $30-$40k, WTF!! Open your eyes Acura.
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Originally Posted by rondog
Forget it, not only did they discontinue the whole slew of Acura coupes, but they also discontinued the S2K, and now have NO rwd options avaiilable. So now you get no coupe or rwd. I don't see the difficulty in entering a market that is doing so awesome, with the 3 series, IS350/250, the G35, hell, even the MB CLK, i mean, there is a market for a simple rwd coupe styled after the TL for $30-$40k, WTF!! Open your eyes Acura.
This reminds me of Subaru when I worked for them. For years and years Subaru refused to put out a high performance vehicle in the US besides the XT or the SVX. But after years and years they finally gave in and we saw the first 2.5RS which turned into an instant success over night and now Suby wants to throw a turbo in everything. Duh! Maybe Honda will catch on someday, who knows.
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Originally Posted by Lord Helmet
How many of the current CL owners could even afford a new CL IF Acura even decided to build it? Realistically?
The quicker the next gen CL comes out, the sooner it'll be on the used car market If they don't come out with a new coupe till 2009, then I'll be waiting till 2011 till they hit the used car market...
Oh, did you know that when the S197 ('05) Mustang came out values of the last gen went up due to the interest in the new model ?? Heck, the intro of the 2003 CLS 6spd probably helped boost values on the old legend 6spd coupes...
Originally Posted by fuzzy02CLS
There is a CL replacement. It's called the Accord coupe.
I think H/A figure that if you want a v6 FWD coupe, just buy an accord... Heck, when I was test driving cars when I was shopping for the CLS, I drove an accord right before I test drove the CL... If you want a RSX, buy a Civic SI...
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I test-drove the Accord coupe 6MT/6cylinder when it first came out, maybe in 2003 or 4. I loved that 6 speed/6cylinder combo so much that I traded in my Legend Coupe for the same setup in the 03 CLS/6MT.
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Originally Posted by rondog
Forget it, not only did they discontinue the whole slew of Acura coupes, but they also discontinued the S2K, and now have NO rwd options avaiilable. So now you get no coupe or rwd. I don't see the difficulty in entering a market that is doing so awesome, with the 3 series, IS350/250, the G35, hell, even the MB CLK, i mean, there is a market for a simple rwd coupe styled after the TL for $30-$40k, WTF!! Open your eyes Acura.
Honda has no discontinued the S2000...yet. But im pretty sure they have plans. It is out once again for 2007 though.
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Damn, Chris. You're on fire in this thread. Nicely said.
Me, personally, I believe they're going to try and become like Pontiac. They killed off all of their good cars (FireChicken, TransAm, and WS6), and switched over to all sedans. But their sedans all have a "sporty side." It's done will for them. Most of their sedans have moderate/decent power for their class. And that's how I see Acura heading.
Me, personally, I believe they're going to try and become like Pontiac. They killed off all of their good cars (FireChicken, TransAm, and WS6), and switched over to all sedans. But their sedans all have a "sporty side." It's done will for them. Most of their sedans have moderate/decent power for their class. And that's how I see Acura heading.
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Originally Posted by All Mine
I also believe that Fuzzy is right. That's what Honder wants people to do. Just buy a daggum Accord.
I <3 my Acura.
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Originally Posted by Lord Helmet
Here's a spy photo of the next Acura CL-S ass kicker...
The new AMG C63 will slaughter the new M3 while having CL-S apple pie
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Originally Posted by Lord Helmet
Damn...
<----- by hotlinked photo...
It was sick though, I hoped at least one person saw it.
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It was sick though, I hoped at least one person saw it.
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This is my guess. Acura has really pumped up the new TL and I wouldn't be surprised to see an AWD TL in for 08 or 09. I'd guess the CL days are gone like the Legend. As for the member who wondered how many peeps who own cl's now would be able to afford a 40k+ new acura, not many. Many of the new members are of the younger crowd still finding their status. Cheers.
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Originally Posted by ThinJim
This is my guess. Acura has really pumped up the new TL and I wouldn't be surprised to see an AWD TL in for 08 or 09. I'd guess the CL days are gone like the Legend. As for the member who wondered how many peeps who own cl's now would be able to afford a 40k+ new acura, not many. Many of the new members are of the younger crowd still finding their status. Cheers.
It's still too bad that Acura is playing it safe while all the other car companies are coming out with better coupes than what they had 5-10 years ago.
But the CL just had bad timing though.
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Honda and Acura have some concept vehicles at the LA auto show, but I've found myself looking at the Altima coupe thread with more interest
https://acurazine.com/forums/automotive-news-6/
and bad marketing... most of the peeps on here are under 30... but acura marketed the CL to older empty nesters....
The few of us over 40, are just cool for our age
https://acurazine.com/forums/automotive-news-6/
Originally Posted by GreenMachine
But the CL just had bad timing though.
The few of us over 40, are just cool for our age
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Originally Posted by Lord Helmet
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Sorry, but I have to chime in on this one. From my perception of Honda, they are a motor company not a car company. Their goal is to use the auto market to entice buyers to cross purchase, which works. I have a Honda Mower, Weed Eater, and a CBR for example. In reference to the CL/CL-S I do not see the car re-energized into the market. So far the G35 Coupe and BMW 3 series coupes are the only cars that offer a true enthusiast driving characteristic in the sub 40K range.
Don't get me wrong. It would be sweet to see an Acura Coupe come into play, with a six cylinder (330hp plus), 6 speed, and all wheel drive or rear wheel drive that seats four people comfortably. But I don't think that segment of the market carries enough interest for Honda to dive back into.
Don't get me wrong. It would be sweet to see an Acura Coupe come into play, with a six cylinder (330hp plus), 6 speed, and all wheel drive or rear wheel drive that seats four people comfortably. But I don't think that segment of the market carries enough interest for Honda to dive back into.