03CLSMT

So last night i was in north Austin and I come up on a 335i sedan , so i down shift and punch it next to him to see if he wants to run... i slow back down and he does a fly by. Finally we get lined up and we do about and eighty punch [in 3rd], he pulls a steady car length through third but about 6.5k in fourth i slowly close the small gap. Now Im on his bumper and inching on him slowwwwly, but i ran out of gear around 120 = / and didnt want to race in 5th .

i was a little surprised i did that well... but then again i have ran with a ws6 auto before and edged out a lightning

CL Platano

Joe5.0

Saw a bone stock 335xi run a 12.9 @ 107mph, so you must have ran into a pretty bad driver.

03CLSMT

nooot real sure what your trying to say... if u don't believe it or something thats cool, u dont have to. Just thought i would share my encounter with everyone talking the 335i's up so much ...i really wasn't impressed... i might just have a freak CL i duno

03CLSMT

: joe 5.0
yea he didnt look like he knew what he was doing cause it took forever for us to even get lined up, but i dont see why i would inch on him unless he shifted to fourth early?? could be a possibility... and it wasnt the xi

CH46ESeaKnight

Well He said 335I, not XI. If I'm not mistaking the XI is twin turbo. And the I is not. There is a big a** differance there.

03CLSMT

the XI is the AWD edition...

rp_guy

first, it's difference
2nd, X in BMW's means 4 wheel drive. ALL 335's are TWIN TURBO pushing at least 300hp (probably a conservative number)


12.9 in an XI means that although he has traction, it's probably slower than a regular 335i because it's heavier, and higher off the ground. SO THAT'S WHERE THE DRIVER COMMENT CAME IN.

Accord_V6_400m

iTrader: (1)

yeah....

Haven't seen any stock ones trap that high yet. Saw a modded one keep up with 04accordcpe's car at LACR where they were both trapping at 101, which brings me to my other point comparing times from different places can be outright dumb when they are geographically challenged, by that I mean California Speedway isn't the best place to set records and some place in the midwest or east coast can be. I've seen strips with a slight downhill slope

I can believe a 12.9 from an twin turbo AWD BMW but the 107 seems much too unlikely for a car that puts down 280Xwhp/29Xwtq stock in non-AWD trim. Maybe with the right conditions its possible but not here. Where the average might be 104-105 going off of Seans SCed Accord times. I have yet to have a good race with one, even though they seem to be all over the place here in So Cal.

Who knows maybe its the same thing as the Mazdaspeed 3 where shortshifting the car at ~5K gives better performance because you aren't going into the portion of the powerband that has torque taking a dive.

CH46ESeaKnight

Thanks for the spell check. That's one of those words I can't remember! Anyways, My bad on the assumption. I don't know why I thought that the twin turbo was an option on thoes cars.

BTW the XI is rated @ 300 hp. you were right. Conservative, very well could be. Weighs in at 3814 lbs. It's 300 more than the cls, not a big deal. I can't imagine it would completely destroy a cls though.


Also every 1/4 mile calc I use says the same thing. Even if 300 hp is conservative # and we use 325 HP @ 3814 lbs with AWD at sea level this car should not be below a 13.2 second car with a trap around 102.5. Just saying.

Could he have gone up against a bad driver? He probably did if he (The CLS) was making up ground. But is his CLS modded?

krisdlm

iTrader: (1)

the 335s are everywhere, i guess bmw finally caught up with the tt trend which I thought was set in the 90s w/ the supras, mazdas, nissans, etc. Not to bust the thread, but do think I would have a chance against a chipped 335? One of my friends just got his chipped and he says for sure he can take me. I have another friend w/ dinan 335, but thats out of the question.

Joe5.0

Well I witnessed it, and it was definitely stock looking/sounding. Could have had a chip, but it was a 25 y/o girl that seemed real cool and wouldnt lie.

SIRSIG

those are the kind you need to be careful with

stock 335i here in cali barely hit 102mph or low 14's to high 13's

Accord_V6_400m

iTrader: (1)

Good luck if its chipped, its still possible but you'll need a really good tune and some weight reduction that or the HBP.

Friend just gave me a call and said that his stock Z and a stock 335 manual were dead even on the freeway, guess they're getting slower and slower everytime I hear about them.

nova_G

congrats on keeping up those 335i's are pretty fast. those cars have endless power and almost no turbo lag so i would have to assume that it was driver error on the 335i. 12.9 in the 1/4 with a 108 trap for an XI stock? i highly doubt thats possible. the 335i's are seeing 13.3-13.7 100% stock an XI would be around the 13.5-13.9 100% stock but, add a chip then you'll see 12's regardless of what model. as for the 350z keeping up with a 335i/335xi the 2007+ 350z have a new engine and the times for the new engines are around 13.1-13.7 so stock vs stock it would be a good race given equal drivers.

av6ent

That's why street racing means nothing (generally speaking) but track is the one that can show the drivers skills and car potential.

Joe, that girl who ran 12.9@107 is full of sh*t if she claims her 335i stock. None managed to break into 12s without PROcede, JB2HR, SSTT or other piggyback computer. Bone stock they run between 13.2-13.5. Crazy modded managed to break into 11s with peak boost at 15psi. The fastest claimed so far 11.89@115mph.

You better watch those out people

Seattle Cl-S

I saw a Procede 335i run 12.9@107ish. His buddy was stock and was running mid-13's @ 104ish. Doubting your 335xi witness was stock. Even the highly strung tunes are "only" getting 12.5 @ 110 in perfect conditions. Don't get me wrong, still fast.

Joe5.0

Maybe so, but it sounded/looked stock. Girl could have been lying, ut who knows.

Either way you'd need a SC to run with even a well driven 335 if you're driving a CL-S. IMO