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Originally Posted by Renegade
Hahah damn you make me laugh...a good driver in a g35 sedan will consistently run low 14's...with intake and headers sure you may run a 14.3 in your AT once in a while, but think of it this way most of the time he is going to beat you....so if it was a stick and you had him by 3-4 cars and 5+ at the end of the 3rd gear theres two options....his car is automatic stock, or his car is stick and hes still learning how to drive.
Dem, If it was auto and they had one passenger then your story makes sense and I believe you. I remember when the Gs first starting going to the track and they were not doing any better than the TLS/CLSs stock for stock. Now the 6-speeds are much faster no doubt. Bottom line is that a modded CLS beat a stock G35 sedan...wtf is so hard to believe about that?
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Originally Posted by G_Killer
Look at the G35 club forums.
The Auto G35 is almost as fast as the 6spd. The autos are tuned just right.
Some guy just ran 14.2 and 14.3 at 97~ trap speed in a auto with K&N drop in and z tube.
I have a 6spd g35 sedan, and ran 14.32 at 98.6 mph bone stock. 2.2 60ft, still trying to learn my launch.
The Auto G35 is almost as fast as the 6spd. The autos are tuned just right.
Some guy just ran 14.2 and 14.3 at 97~ trap speed in a auto with K&N drop in and z tube.
I have a 6spd g35 sedan, and ran 14.32 at 98.6 mph bone stock. 2.2 60ft, still trying to learn my launch.
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Nothing is hard to believe about that, but he said he "Believed" that the G was a stick, theres no need to say that as he should no there was no way in hell the G was stick and he was crushing him by 5 cars, thats what pissed me off...but im overreacting.
#45
Originally Posted by ferizzo
Thats bullshit! The six-speed sedan is a low 14 second car (before you get your panties in a bunch I am agreeing with you here and believe your times) and the auto is not! At best its a mid-14 car in ideal conditions. Whoever the some guy is, he is not stock, as you noted.
Plus its entirely believable to beat a 6-speed G35 with auto CLS. All the ClS has to do is get the jump and the 6-speed would have to downshift. That may give it enough time to start pulling and the G can only watch the car go bye bye.
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WTF I/H/E=Auto G35???? Um no, I raced my friend with a G35 when we were both stock and 0-70 it was a tie, and all the other times it just depended on the jump.
#47
Originally Posted by Renegade
WTF I/H/E=Auto G35???? Um no, I raced my friend with a G35 when we were both stock and 0-70 it was a tie, and all the other times it just depended on the jump.
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Originally Posted by Renegade
No but neither is an automatic G35 sedan stock. Both are high 14's stock.
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Well I dont know what to tell you, I still think thats a select few, but I do know the G is a fast car that should not be underrated by any means...but a Cl with I/H/E auto, will fuck up a G35 stock sedan auto any day.
#51
Originally Posted by Renegade
Well I dont know what to tell you, I still think thats a select few, but I do know the G is a fast car that should not be underrated by any means...but a Cl with I/H/E auto, will fuck up a G35 stock sedan auto any day.
#53
Originally Posted by ferizzo
Thats bullshit! The six-speed sedan is a low 14 second car (before you get your panties in a bunch I am agreeing with you here and believe your times) and the auto is not! At best its a mid-14 car in ideal conditions. Whoever the some guy is, he is not stock, as you noted.
#54
Originally Posted by Renegade
No but neither is an automatic G35 sedan stock. Both are high 14's stock.
#55
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Originally Posted by EZZ
You are saying that a STOCK CLS = a mid to low 14 second car. I thought the CLS auto was a high 14 second car at best stock ![Dunno](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/dunno.gif)
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"To what I can tell the VQ doesn't seem to have a issue at the track if its cold or hot. It actually seems to run better when its hot. The J32 however ran much better when it was cold.
I let the car cool down for a good 45 min with the hood open. I got a worse time. So I went again 2 more times in a row, my 3rd one was one of my best.
My CL-S ran 14.42 at 99.8 mph when it was cold."
Here is a modded G35s auto and his times:
http://forums.freshalloy.com/ubbthre...e#Post67745978
Here is a 6-speed sedan with a low 14:
http://forums.freshalloy.com/ubbthre...e#Post67729357
Here are some more stats taken by a freshalloy member:
Sedan 5AT 14.90
Sedan 5AT 14.68 97.08
Sedan 5AT 14.70 95.20
Sedan 5AT 14.61
Sedan G35X 5AT 14.83 93.35
show me more than one stock auto (which you have yet to do) doing better than a 14.5
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That first modded G35 link, is the guy I raced just recently, he is The Punisher on the board, and I know him personally. I raced him stock 0-70 and it was a TIE! We raced other times and the best he ever did was have 1/2-1 car on me, because of jumps.
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Originally Posted by G_Killer
The Auto G35 is a mid 14 sec car, the auto cl-s is usually a low 15 sec car but on prime conditions can me a high 14 sec car. I had a CL-S.
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Originally Posted by Renegade
That first modded G35 link, is the guy I raced just recently, he is The Punisher on the board, and I know him personally. I raced him stock 0-70 and it was a TIE! We raced other times and the best he ever did was have 1/2-1 car on me, because of jumps.
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ferizzo, that first link is the infamous 03CLSPunisher on this board. When we first got our cars, we raced each other doing rolls and from stops. Every race we had was very very close with maybe him having a slight edge at the end, but pretty much dead even. So he goes ahead and gets true borla exhaust and stillen intake, giving good wheel horsepower to the g35 sedan. I put in the aem intake. We went at it again, and in all races he only had about 1 1/2 -2 1/2 cars on me, from a first gear roll it was even closer probably maybe one car at higher speeds--85 or more. And hes the run who ran a 14.61.
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Here is a guy that ran 14.33.
http://g35driver.com/forums/showflat...view=&sb=&vc=1
Here is another guy that ran around 14.4.
http://g35driver.com/forums/showthre...ts&Main=136596
Both were stock autos.
Go to G35driver.com and look up 1/4 mile. You will see many that have attained around 14.5. Not that big a deal.
http://g35driver.com/forums/showflat...view=&sb=&vc=1
Here is another guy that ran around 14.4.
http://g35driver.com/forums/showthre...ts&Main=136596
Both were stock autos.
Go to G35driver.com and look up 1/4 mile. You will see many that have attained around 14.5. Not that big a deal.
#61
Mod for mod the g35 is faster.
Stock vs stock the G35 auto is faster
Stock vs stock 6mt g35 vs 6mt cl-s driver race.
The post you pulled the 14.42 at 99.8 mph was my car and my post.![Smile](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif)
Also a auto G35 with the following mods :
2003.5 DP 5AT Sedan (E-thing but Nav)
14.2 @ 97.18
Z-Tube
K&N Drop In & Airbox Mod
10 Wire Hyper-Ground
Crawford Plenum (V4)
UR Crank Pulley
And if you drop a full exhaust system on it, its easily a 13 sec car.
A stock Auto is around 14.5, not better. It would be hard pressed to do better than a 14.5 on a good day. But its still faster than a stock Auto CL-S which rarely breaks 15s.
Stock vs stock the G35 auto is faster
Stock vs stock 6mt g35 vs 6mt cl-s driver race.
The post you pulled the 14.42 at 99.8 mph was my car and my post.
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Also a auto G35 with the following mods :
2003.5 DP 5AT Sedan (E-thing but Nav)
14.2 @ 97.18
Z-Tube
K&N Drop In & Airbox Mod
10 Wire Hyper-Ground
Crawford Plenum (V4)
UR Crank Pulley
And if you drop a full exhaust system on it, its easily a 13 sec car.
A stock Auto is around 14.5, not better. It would be hard pressed to do better than a 14.5 on a good day. But its still faster than a stock Auto CL-S which rarely breaks 15s.
Originally Posted by ferizzo
No, what renegade was saying is that a stock g35s auto isn't either. By the way, this is a post from the same guy that ran the 14.3/14.4 I believe:
"To what I can tell the VQ doesn't seem to have a issue at the track if its cold or hot. It actually seems to run better when its hot. The J32 however ran much better when it was cold.
I let the car cool down for a good 45 min with the hood open. I got a worse time. So I went again 2 more times in a row, my 3rd one was one of my best.
My CL-S ran 14.42 at 99.8 mph when it was cold."
Here is a modded G35s auto and his times:
http://forums.freshalloy.com/ubbthre...e#Post67745978
Here is a 6-speed sedan with a low 14:
http://forums.freshalloy.com/ubbthre...e#Post67729357
Here are some more stats taken by a freshalloy member:
Sedan 5AT 14.90
Sedan 5AT 14.68 97.08
Sedan 5AT 14.70 95.20
Sedan 5AT 14.61
Sedan G35X 5AT 14.83 93.35
show me more than one stock auto (which you have yet to do) doing better than a 14.5
"To what I can tell the VQ doesn't seem to have a issue at the track if its cold or hot. It actually seems to run better when its hot. The J32 however ran much better when it was cold.
I let the car cool down for a good 45 min with the hood open. I got a worse time. So I went again 2 more times in a row, my 3rd one was one of my best.
My CL-S ran 14.42 at 99.8 mph when it was cold."
Here is a modded G35s auto and his times:
http://forums.freshalloy.com/ubbthre...e#Post67745978
Here is a 6-speed sedan with a low 14:
http://forums.freshalloy.com/ubbthre...e#Post67729357
Here are some more stats taken by a freshalloy member:
Sedan 5AT 14.90
Sedan 5AT 14.68 97.08
Sedan 5AT 14.70 95.20
Sedan 5AT 14.61
Sedan G35X 5AT 14.83 93.35
show me more than one stock auto (which you have yet to do) doing better than a 14.5
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Originally Posted by ferizzo
most stock CLSs are high-14s in decent conditions. The auto G35s is at best a mid-14 but really a high-14 car also. Don't get me wrong, I think stock for stock they are close with the G35s probably winning 6/10 or even 7/10, but a h/i/e CLS will beat a stock g35s. Most CLSs with that setup are mid to low 14s. Even my sorry ass got a 14.6 in a TLS with headers and intake and I suck at launching (2.35+ 60 foots). meanwhile a few members have hit 14.2-14.4s in their CLSs.
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You really are pissing the fuck out of me, a stock CLS doesnt barely break 15's, wtf are you talking about. You really are a dumbass.
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You really are pissing the fuck out of me, a stock CLS doesnt barely break 15's, wtf are you talking about. You really are a dumbass.
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Only a few cant and that is because they dont know how to launch, in decent weather a 14.9 is definitely possible in almost all acura-cls built
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ok, so....wtf happend to my thread
lol
Now, you're saying that an auto cl-s with I/H/E is = a G35 Auto, correct? Yet in my race, I am an auto CL-S with I/H, no exhaust, and I kicked homeboys ass. He didn't fuck up the launch, didn't misshift or anything for that matter. He simply floored it as did I, and I beat him by a pretty fair margin. So how can you say they're dead even, even with the exhaust?
Also, the norm for CL-S auto drivers on here run consisten high 14's. Fuck that low 15 bullshit. I've seen MAYBE 3 members on here complaining that they ran in the 15's. I don't take that bullshit. Sure, maybe you hit 15's, but thats You, and YOUR car. Anyways, from my observations, I think that an auto cl-s should be even with a stock g35c 6mt. Who knows
. Nice to see people chattin on my thread though
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Now, you're saying that an auto cl-s with I/H/E is = a G35 Auto, correct? Yet in my race, I am an auto CL-S with I/H, no exhaust, and I kicked homeboys ass. He didn't fuck up the launch, didn't misshift or anything for that matter. He simply floored it as did I, and I beat him by a pretty fair margin. So how can you say they're dead even, even with the exhaust?
Also, the norm for CL-S auto drivers on here run consisten high 14's. Fuck that low 15 bullshit. I've seen MAYBE 3 members on here complaining that they ran in the 15's. I don't take that bullshit. Sure, maybe you hit 15's, but thats You, and YOUR car. Anyways, from my observations, I think that an auto cl-s should be even with a stock g35c 6mt. Who knows
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Originally Posted by Dem1K
ok, so....wtf happend to my thread
lol
Now, you're saying that an auto cl-s with I/H/E is = a G35 Auto, correct? Yet in my race, I am an auto CL-S with I/H, no exhaust, and I kicked homeboys ass. He didn't fuck up the launch, didn't misshift or anything for that matter. He simply floored it as did I, and I beat him by a pretty fair margin. So how can you say they're dead even, even with the exhaust?
Also, the norm for CL-S auto drivers on here run consisten high 14's. Fuck that low 15 bullshit. I've seen MAYBE 3 members on here complaining that they ran in the 15's. I don't take that bullshit. Sure, maybe you hit 15's, but thats You, and YOUR car. Anyways, from my observations, I think that an auto cl-s should be even with a stock g35c 6mt. Who knows
. Nice to see people chattin on my thread though ![Racing](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/racing.gif)
![Dunno](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/dunno.gif)
Now, you're saying that an auto cl-s with I/H/E is = a G35 Auto, correct? Yet in my race, I am an auto CL-S with I/H, no exhaust, and I kicked homeboys ass. He didn't fuck up the launch, didn't misshift or anything for that matter. He simply floored it as did I, and I beat him by a pretty fair margin. So how can you say they're dead even, even with the exhaust?
Also, the norm for CL-S auto drivers on here run consisten high 14's. Fuck that low 15 bullshit. I've seen MAYBE 3 members on here complaining that they ran in the 15's. I don't take that bullshit. Sure, maybe you hit 15's, but thats You, and YOUR car. Anyways, from my observations, I think that an auto cl-s should be even with a stock g35c 6mt. Who knows
![Dunno](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/dunno.gif)
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#69
sigh..just liek you said..street races don't prove shit...so what's the point about you coming in this thread bitching about how g's run this and that on the 1/4? john pwned the G in a STREET RACE..and just like you said..anything can happen...and just like some stock g's can run relatively low times, there are some cls's on our board that have run very impressive times stock..i remember seeing a 14.5-14.6 stock run..and at the very best ive seen a 14.1-14.2 with H/E..with that small margin of a difference in times..i wouldn't be surprised if i whipped a g35's ass either..yeah sure maybe at the track they will run better times..but in an actual street race..who gives a fuck..it's not like you're going to yell "EY FOO I RAN A 14.2 AT THE TRACK" even though you lost..if you do..ur an idiot
and auto cls-s usually cant break 15's? you must have had your car filled with fat people if you can't break 15s...the avg 1/4 auto time on this board is 14.6-14.7...man even a stock 6mt got a 13.9 before..maybe you bought a dud
and auto cls-s usually cant break 15's? you must have had your car filled with fat people if you can't break 15s...the avg 1/4 auto time on this board is 14.6-14.7...man even a stock 6mt got a 13.9 before..maybe you bought a dud
#70
Take a chill pill dude. I never claimed bull$hit on the race. I was objectively looking at both cars in terms of 1/4 times. I never hated on the CLS. READ my posts. I claimed most CLS w/I/H/E exhausts run around 14.5...which is about what a stock G35 runs. So next time you fucking tell me I'm bitching about something I ain't read my fucking post.
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#73
Originally Posted by robeaneee
ok anyway let's move on...i think we've all made our point (despite this subject being argued to death hundreds of times already)
A +-0.3 seconds between cars in a street race depends on the driver (IMO).
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Originally Posted by G_Killer
I agree. Like I said, I was the one that ran 14.42 at 99.8 mph in my CL-S which only had OBX Headers and HKS mufflers.
btw, is this Silverbullet???
#75
Originally Posted by Renegade
Only a few cant and that is because they dont know how to launch, in decent weather a 14.9 is definitely possible in almost all acura-cls built
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Originally Posted by EZZ
Here is a guy that ran 14.33.
http://g35driver.com/forums/showflat...view=&sb=&vc=1
Here is another guy that ran around 14.4.
http://g35driver.com/forums/showthre...ts&Main=136596
Both were stock autos.
Go to G35driver.com and look up 1/4 mile. You will see many that have attained around 14.5. Not that big a deal.
http://g35driver.com/forums/showflat...view=&sb=&vc=1
Here is another guy that ran around 14.4.
http://g35driver.com/forums/showthre...ts&Main=136596
Both were stock autos.
Go to G35driver.com and look up 1/4 mile. You will see many that have attained around 14.5. Not that big a deal.
#77
Originally Posted by Dem1K
ok, so....wtf happend to my thread
lol
Now, you're saying that an auto cl-s with I/H/E is = a G35 Auto, correct? Yet in my race, I am an auto CL-S with I/H, no exhaust, and I kicked homeboys ass. He didn't fuck up the launch, didn't misshift or anything for that matter. He simply floored it as did I, and I beat him by a pretty fair margin. So how can you say they're dead even, even with the exhaust?
Also, the norm for CL-S auto drivers on here run consisten high 14's. Fuck that low 15 bullshit. I've seen MAYBE 3 members on here complaining that they ran in the 15's. I don't take that bullshit. Sure, maybe you hit 15's, but thats You, and YOUR car. Anyways, from my observations, I think that an auto cl-s should be even with a stock g35c 6mt. Who knows
. Nice to see people chattin on my thread though ![Racing](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/racing.gif)
![Dunno](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/dunno.gif)
Now, you're saying that an auto cl-s with I/H/E is = a G35 Auto, correct? Yet in my race, I am an auto CL-S with I/H, no exhaust, and I kicked homeboys ass. He didn't fuck up the launch, didn't misshift or anything for that matter. He simply floored it as did I, and I beat him by a pretty fair margin. So how can you say they're dead even, even with the exhaust?
Also, the norm for CL-S auto drivers on here run consisten high 14's. Fuck that low 15 bullshit. I've seen MAYBE 3 members on here complaining that they ran in the 15's. I don't take that bullshit. Sure, maybe you hit 15's, but thats You, and YOUR car. Anyways, from my observations, I think that an auto cl-s should be even with a stock g35c 6mt. Who knows
![Dunno](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/dunno.gif)
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The Auto sedan or coupe will never see 15s unless he is a granny driver.
#78
Originally Posted by Dem1K
dood, neither of us got the jump on one another, it was dead even for the first second or 2
plus, most I/H auto cl's Ive seen are between 14.3-14.5
plus, most I/H auto cl's Ive seen are between 14.3-14.5
Okay, show us a few. Not just one, but a few instances with those mods. We showed you stock auto g35 running 14.3-14.5.
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#79
Originally Posted by robeaneee
sigh..just liek you said..street races don't prove shit...so what's the point about you coming in this thread bitching about how g's run this and that on the 1/4? john pwned the G in a STREET RACE..and just like you said..anything can happen...and just like some stock g's can run relatively low times, there are some cls's on our board that have run very impressive times stock..i remember seeing a 14.5-14.6 stock run..and at the very best ive seen a 14.1-14.2 with H/E..with that small margin of a difference in times..i wouldn't be surprised if i whipped a g35's ass either..yeah sure maybe at the track they will run better times..but in an actual street race..who gives a fuck..it's not like you're going to yell "EY FOO I RAN A 14.2 AT THE TRACK" even though you lost..if you do..ur an idiot
and auto cls-s usually cant break 15's? you must have had your car filled with fat people if you can't break 15s...the avg 1/4 auto time on this board is 14.6-14.7...man even a stock 6mt got a 13.9 before..maybe you bought a dud
and auto cls-s usually cant break 15's? you must have had your car filled with fat people if you can't break 15s...the avg 1/4 auto time on this board is 14.6-14.7...man even a stock 6mt got a 13.9 before..maybe you bought a dud
Hmm I just did a search, seems the average is a 14.9-15.2
#80
Originally Posted by ferizzo
I think you and I agree although a stock CLS is a high-14 second car. I think you and I just suck at teh launch (I got a 15.2 in my stock TLS in 80 degree weather on a humid day). Most stock times I've seen are in the 14.7-14.9 range with a few higher and a few lower (I think I've seen two in the 14.6 range).