this young guy gave me a couple from a roll races and seemed it came down to the jump...we tried to exchange pleasantries and the "what you got in there?"'s but it was hard at 30-40 mph...we caught a light... while driving he said "i didnt know those were that fast." i said "i've got some stuff done to it,headers, intake,new engine...he said "what brand" i said aem intake comp headers...added they give 25whp he was surprised and said "there's not much for this "...i said "120 hp per litre what ya gonna do ?"
oh ya we caught a light...i tell him watch out this is a bad area city police terrotory 1 mile stretch....i hear him winding it up for the launch...and boom..i didnt break torque but got some wheel spin could tell how much as he was wheeling out in front of me ,notbad,one car smoke was coming from his tires,i assume mine were smoking as well...i gained alittle through second and shit it down...him still most of a car out....I've found new respect for the s2's speed ... we exchange thumbs up and the honk as i turn off...

 

yeah they are pretty quick if driven right! I just think they need more TQ!

 

Typr, I thought you do 13.9s Unless blown S2000 will do 14.8s!

 

Good race Steve. Nashua, a well driven S2K will hit high 13s. There a couple of S2Ks that have run 13.7s. Clutches won't last long but it's been done.

 

Dont take this wrong.....but if you cant beat a S2k how are you running with C5's which you posted about.

 

Maybe he caught the Vette guy slipping!

 

i have run with ...to 70-80 mph...doesnt mean there arent some vettes out there that would never let me look back...im not sure i got my best launch..i was nervous about the area and didnt want alot of tire spin if i over did it...i think i would have reeled him in ,in the 1/4 but would have been close..if they do the 13.9 i read about then im not worried ...that right where i wanna be...i think i mentioned last week i saw one with just filter go 9.1** twice so they're right there when driven hard

 

Maximized. If he can hang with an S2000, then of course he can beat those C5 vettes. It's not like those C5's are light and have loads of torque or anything.

 

Have you seen my baseball?

 

You kidding me? The S2k and of course TypeR's car own the C5... just because it's made out of fiber glass and has 345 at the fly ('98 C5 dyno shows 300.5 rwhp, and 317.1 ft-lb torque) Or I guess we could talk about area under the curve... and how the C5 has WAY more. (see http://www.c5-corvette.com/C5Dyno.htm)

Besides, the S2k is a powerhouse. I hear it dynos at a whopping 206rwhp and 137 ft-lb torque see http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/t61457-6.html)

Or maybe TypeR respects the S2k because it has a base curb weight of 2809lbs to the Corvette's bloated 3246lbs... maybe that makes up for the extra 100 horsepower and 180+ ft-lb of torque)

 

or maybe because of gearing and the driver, ive only met c5 drives that cant, and finally met an S2 that can...
oh and BTW i went against a C5 6mt last night and evethough i pulled a 2.2** 60' to a 9.3** 1/8th i was just over one car back at that point...had this been the run where i went 2.0** 60 and 9.0** i would have been right beside him...at which point he still would have, as i have always claimed ,wlaked away from me at a pace worthy of respect

 

Kind of gearing you got in there.. 4.10? Or something much taller, like 4.88???

 

i was refeing to the vettes and the s2's gearing the vette has a better third than first and second...also a 4.10 is short and 4.88 is shorter

 

Whatever, the ratios are going the right way... 4.88 gives you faster acceleration but lower top speed than 4.10. Anyways, I don't care what gear ratio the s2 has compared to the Vette... it's not gonna give a vette any sort of run for it's money. The Vette does 0-60 in around 5 seconds... The S2000 does it in around 5.7 sec... So gearing or not, it doesn't seem to be "favoring" the S2000 downlow, uphigh, or anywhere in between...

 

Are you kidding me? Lay off the pot and do your homework jr.

 

haha, dude he was making a sarcastic statement...

 

Apparently he missed that part of it, huh? Just like I still miss the part where TypeR explains how his "gearing" makes up for his huge deficit in horsepower/torque pretty much everything else. Running with a Vette till 80 mph from a stop is pretty impressive... unless you're saying the C5 (I'm not even talking about the Z06... don't make me laugh) is super slow off the line, and makes it up past 80... if that's the case, then that C5 needs to be regeared. What's the final drive ratio on your car TypeR?

 

i am saying that if not launched very hard ...like an S2000 has to be just to get low 14's the vette can end up with a very high 8 ,1/8th(S2000 capable of low 9's ) to a mid to low 13 1/4 ...so what do you think? different gearing...different driver,both...
the final drive on my car, currently is...what ever a stock CL type S is, minus the small roll change on the tires from a 25.6 to a 25.4...i do need to bring that down some, i hope when i goto a track only setup of 245/50/16 for the fronts ,that it gets me closer to the desired gearing...(3rd gear tops at 113mph im 1/4'ing around 100...)

2.0 60'
8.969 1/8th and you to may find your self beside a C5 if just for a moment

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by typeR
[B]i am saying that if not launched very hard ...like an S2000 has to be just to get low 14's the vette can end up with a very high 8 ,1/8th(S2000 capable of low 9's ) to a mid to low 13 1/4 ...so what do you think? different gearing...different driver,both...
the final drive on my car, currently is...what ever a stock CL type S is, minus the small roll change on the tires from a 25.6 to a 25.4...i do need to bring that down some, i hope when i goto a track only setup of 245/50/16 for the fronts ,that it gets me closer to the desired gearing...(3rd gear tops at 113mph im 1/4'ing around 100...)


Hmm.... 1/4 around 100 is good for a trap speed of around mid-high 13's... depending on launch. So yeah, I'd buy that, especially with a poor launch on the C5 (no one said putting down that hp to the ground was easy) But I was just curious, because I know the S2k is really hard to launch as well, since it has next to no low end torque.

But you're right... maybe you just met an S2k driver who can, versus tons of C5 drivers who couldn't. That's not to say that the S2k is faster than the C5 anywhere in the spectrum, just that all three of your cars are in the same ballpark, and credit can be given to driver instead of looking at just the car.

 

well ive only gone up against one C5 from a stop light and one from a roll...i wouldnt even say were in the same ball park when it comes to 1/4 but the first half i can be close

 

Hey guys u must be kidding, comparing C5 with a S2k in a straight line accl. . Let me clear few things out, first the Auto C5 has 3.23 ratio and the M6 has 3.42. There is no C5 from the factory that comes with 4.10. second, i would smoke a S2k going from 1st to 3rd(skipping 2nd gear) in my Camaro. When i had my 99 Cobra i used to give the S2k a jump start and catch him by the time im shifting to 2nd or by mid 2nd at the most(Cobra times were 13.6-13.7 at 103-104). So there is no way that S2k can hang with a Vette if the vette driver is on the gas and know how to shift at least or leave it in D4. What the hell are u saying guys, there are alot of low 13's to mid 13's sec vette with average drivers.

Hey type R, im sure the vette u raced was playing around with u since this S2K was ahead of u. Hell when i had my CL-S with all the bolt ons i used to beat the S2k 5 times from 10 times. When i used to win he was at my door and when used to win i was at his door(Its thats close). When we both had two people in the car giving same weight i used to beat him always by 1-2 cars.

 

this is a mildly modified SS close to a C5? no you want more?

 

1st run: 60ft---2.29
1/8----8.77@85.79
1/4----13.31@109.11

2nd run:60ft---2.23
1/8----8.65@86.17
1/4----13.18@109.01

3rd run: 60ft---2.28
1/8---8.71@86.19
1/4---13.24@109.14

4th run: 60ft---2.36
1/8---8.81@86.10
1/4---13.33@109.38

Last run:60ft--2.28
1/8------8.70@86.07
1/4---13.22@109.35

modified Z (2000)

 

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curious about track times for the C5?
mostly looking for the 1/8th mile results Et and MPH...of bone stock C5's ...preferablly in the heat (i live in florida) and not so much the best someone has ever done...but rather what they run "all day "...you LS1 guys could throw in some times for good measure ...thanks in advance
Steve

from the above you you can guess what the C5 would be doing in the first half...the last quote is a guy from florida that runs at bradenton where i go....he's in the 12's but that's what he say's he sees the vettes average...here's what ive seen an S2000 go 9.2 1/8th ,a C5 go 9.0, and ive gone 8.9 now the races happened on the street...where many more variables come into play...but i guess it never happened

 

Wow, all this talk about s2k's and vettes brought my ass all the way over here from the first gen forums. First of all, n s2000 may not have much torque but it is light as shit. You guys are talking about how a c5 will smoke an s2000, well here this, I have given a few vettes a run for their money in my s2k. Vettes aren't the only fast cars out there. Oh and by the way, I ran a 13.5 in the quarter with my STOCK s2000. They might not have a whole lot of torque, but it is th fastest car that I have ever owned.

 

Can you scan a slip of your 13.5 time. That is pretty unbelieveable. The fastest I have seen on S2ki.com is 13.8.

 

Those 60' times are piss poor for a Modded Z. With a good 60' time that car is a high 12s car, just look at the traps.

 

One problem, you make it seem like I give a fuck whether you believe me or not.

But yes, I can scan the slips, it'll take me a few days, but I can. Check the website in my sig on wednesday

 

:o :'( <---waited for 13.45 stock s2000 timeslip, held breath, eyes watered, passed out.

 

oh that was creative, did you learn that in 4th grade? You must have liked the picture books. Like I said, it will take me a few days to post the slips, but check my site on wednesday or thursday.

 

So type R, u showed me slips of Camaro's and vettes doing between 13.1 at 109.xx close to 110 with only a LID. U cant call that "modded" since its like a CAI in jap cars(just say with a intake). How will u hang with them from a roll? Im gussing ur car traps at 100-102mph and that is far away from 106-108 for a stock Z28 and 107-111 for a stock C5. Also IMO the first 1/8 mile doesnt mean anything in racing too(That is like saying im going to race u 1st and 2nd gear and a little bit of ur third, dont go to the rev limiter in 3rd ok because i will race u just to 79mph). what was ur MPH in the 1/8? Im guessing 79mph right?


KC CL 1785, wow 13.5 from a S2k. Do u go on S2ki.com forums? Man u hold the record of the fastest stock S2k. I bet ur 60ft was 1.6-1.7sec on stock tires with only 204rwhp and 134rwtq huh? Did u do some weight reduction? and what was ur trapspeed and 60ft in that run?

 

on the street most races are done by 80 mph...and the track i goto most is an 1/8th mile track

 

the car was almost completey gutted, everythnig that could be taken out was. Take a look at my cardomain site on wednesday or thursday, and the slips will be up there. I know lots of s2000's that have run as well.

Oh, and I guess the car wasn't completely stock, it did have a CAI, but I don't really consider that more than stock.

 

So what did u have left in the car(Ur seat and gear knob LOL)? That figures the 13.5 time. Do u drive ur S2k on the streeets with the diet done to it? What was ur trapspeed on that run and ur 60ft? and by the way great times.

 

check my web site, it is all there now

 

Ur website isnt working. Its giving me timed out connection. Just tell me whats ur 60ft and trapspeed? and do u drive it that way(On diet) while ur driving on the streets?

 

my 60 foot was 1.8. And the top speed was about 104. It says that the website is timed out? Works for me

 

500lbs taken out of the car is not stock. A CAI is not stock. Your car is not stock. You did not run a 13.452 stock. Thankyou, please drive through.

 

Hey KC CL 1785,

The guys at S2ki.forum wants u to come over there. Here is the link http://www.s2ki.com/forums/showthrea...10#post1226010

 

1.8 60ft and 104 trapspeed and u only got 13.5.... I think it should be more like low 13's with that kind of 60ft. Hell i ran a 13.6 at 104 with 1.98-2.0 60ft in my 99 Cobra. So 1.8 with 104 should yield u at least .4 tenths faster than 13.6 which will be around 13.2. Did u miss a shift or shift slow?