3.5L upgrade...
05-31-2002, 02:23 AM
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3.5L upgrade...
I am looking into doing the 3.5L upgrade to my CL-S pretty soon here...Can someone please tell me what this consists of completely, and all the other questions I would need answered in order to accomplish this? Such as how much, where to get it, installation, etc....Please help me out! All help is greatly appreciated!
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05-31-2002, 02:45 AM
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What they do is take the heads and mill .0023 off the deck height along with a v-groove channel and replace it with a Apex-W22 .0034 grooved head gasket. Then they remove your connecting rods and extend them with crowler rod extentions giving you more stroke. To make up for this additional stroke they need to replace the piston with a ceramic tipped dome 2 chamber piston. Some just use basic MDX pistons, but that won't hold up over time. Next they have to take all the pushrods and replace them, along with a greddy opt1 fuel rail. Other than that it's pretty much functional. Head work would help out too. Good luck.
05-31-2002, 03:55 AM
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ummm....
Vapor ware...
Save your money... if you are going all motor... have some speciality shop in LA since you are there rebuild your motor for you... Or just save you money and get the Comptech Supercharger.
The Rick Case 3.5L upgrade is 99.999% not something that they are selling. It was a one off.
-J
Vapor ware...
Save your money... if you are going all motor... have some speciality shop in LA since you are there rebuild your motor for you... Or just save you money and get the Comptech Supercharger.
The Rick Case 3.5L upgrade is 99.999% not something that they are selling. It was a one off.
-J
05-31-2002, 08:13 AM
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Originally posted by 4pumpedCL
What they do is take the heads and mill .0023 off the deck height along with a v-groove channel and replace it with a Apex-W22 .0034 grooved head gasket. Then they remove your connecting rods and extend them with crowler rod extentions giving you more stroke. To make up for this additional stroke they need to replace the piston with a ceramic tipped dome 2 chamber piston. Some just use basic MDX pistons, but that won't hold up over time. Next they have to take all the pushrods and replace them, along with a greddy opt1 fuel rail. Other than that it's pretty much functional. Head work would help out too. Good luck.
What they do is take the heads and mill .0023 off the deck height along with a v-groove channel and replace it with a Apex-W22 .0034 grooved head gasket. Then they remove your connecting rods and extend them with crowler rod extentions giving you more stroke. To make up for this additional stroke they need to replace the piston with a ceramic tipped dome 2 chamber piston. Some just use basic MDX pistons, but that won't hold up over time. Next they have to take all the pushrods and replace them, along with a greddy opt1 fuel rail. Other than that it's pretty much functional. Head work would help out too. Good luck.
(connecting rod extensions and pushrods?
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The Rick Case 3.5L upgrade is 99.999% not something that they are selling. It was a one off
05-31-2002, 10:55 AM
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Originally posted by bobowah
ummm....
Vapor ware...
Save your money... if you are going all motor... have some speciality shop in LA since you are there rebuild your motor for you... Or just save you money and get the Comptech Supercharger.
The Rick Case 3.5L upgrade is 99.999% not something that they are selling. It was a one off.
-J
ummm....
Vapor ware...
Save your money... if you are going all motor... have some speciality shop in LA since you are there rebuild your motor for you... Or just save you money and get the Comptech Supercharger.
The Rick Case 3.5L upgrade is 99.999% not something that they are selling. It was a one off.
-J
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05-31-2002, 11:53 AM
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Originally posted by 4pumpedCL
What they do is take the heads and mill .0023 off the deck height along with a v-groove channel and replace it with a Apex-W22 .0034 grooved head gasket. Then they remove your connecting rods and extend them with crowler rod extentions giving you more stroke. To make up for this additional stroke they need to replace the piston with a ceramic tipped dome 2 chamber piston. Some just use basic MDX pistons, but that won't hold up over time. Next they have to take all the pushrods and replace them, along with a greddy opt1 fuel rail. Other than that it's pretty much functional. Head work would help out too. Good luck.
What they do is take the heads and mill .0023 off the deck height along with a v-groove channel and replace it with a Apex-W22 .0034 grooved head gasket. Then they remove your connecting rods and extend them with crowler rod extentions giving you more stroke. To make up for this additional stroke they need to replace the piston with a ceramic tipped dome 2 chamber piston. Some just use basic MDX pistons, but that won't hold up over time. Next they have to take all the pushrods and replace them, along with a greddy opt1 fuel rail. Other than that it's pretty much functional. Head work would help out too. Good luck.
The forged pistons make sense.
05-31-2002, 11:57 AM
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pipe dreams
Part of my reason for my first response is the following...
Example: Mystery Mod... the Res... well... Uhmmm where is it?
Other than in a pic where some guys was walking around the Las Vegas SEMA and happened to show it in a towel? Don't you think that's weird?
There was talk of Rick Case having a booth there at SEMA to display the product. Shit I was there the day before the show opened and looked around for the "vapor ware booth." But I could not even find them, even on opening day...
I just think the whole discussion around the 3.5L upgrade has a some myth behind it. There are couple of things that are said and sketchy thing go on from Florida on the TL and CL board which I think make things questionable.
Some examples below...
First... mchclsondubs -> mchboostedA4 originally had the 3.5L upgrade and then the car mysteriously ended up in a lake. I think he's on his third car now since he's been on the board... 3.5L CL in a lake, BMW 530i stripped, and now on an Audi A4 1.8T. Either he does not have the cars or his insurance people are really dumb (more likely)
http://www.acura-cl.com/forums/showt...t=3.5L+upgrade
Second, the myster mod which is still a mystery... Autocarparts was supposed to sell it but nothing.
Third, wayneg from Park Ave has talked with the service guys at Rick Case about the upgrade trying to resell it as well and then Rick Case Acura foolios were like no.
So I don't live in Florida so can't verify that there is one and I'm not about to fly down to the swamps to see it.
Believe what you want to believe... I am a skeptic so I do not believe until shown proof.
Example: Mystery Mod... the Res... well... Uhmmm where is it?
Other than in a pic where some guys was walking around the Las Vegas SEMA and happened to show it in a towel? Don't you think that's weird?
There was talk of Rick Case having a booth there at SEMA to display the product. Shit I was there the day before the show opened and looked around for the "vapor ware booth." But I could not even find them, even on opening day...
I just think the whole discussion around the 3.5L upgrade has a some myth behind it. There are couple of things that are said and sketchy thing go on from Florida on the TL and CL board which I think make things questionable.
Some examples below...
First... mchclsondubs -> mchboostedA4 originally had the 3.5L upgrade and then the car mysteriously ended up in a lake. I think he's on his third car now since he's been on the board... 3.5L CL in a lake, BMW 530i stripped, and now on an Audi A4 1.8T. Either he does not have the cars or his insurance people are really dumb (more likely)
http://www.acura-cl.com/forums/showt...t=3.5L+upgrade
Second, the myster mod which is still a mystery... Autocarparts was supposed to sell it but nothing.
Third, wayneg from Park Ave has talked with the service guys at Rick Case about the upgrade trying to resell it as well and then Rick Case Acura foolios were like no.
So I don't live in Florida so can't verify that there is one and I'm not about to fly down to the swamps to see it.
Believe what you want to believe... I am a skeptic so I do not believe until shown proof.
05-31-2002, 01:22 PM
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Re: pipe dreams
Originally posted by bobowah
Part of my reason for my first response is the following...
Example: Mystery Mod... the Res... well... Uhmmm where is it?
Other than in a pic where some guys was walking around the Las Vegas SEMA and happened to show it in a towel? Don't you think that's weird?
There was talk of Rick Case having a booth there at SEMA to display the product. Shit I was there the day before the show opened and looked around for the "vapor ware booth." But I could not even find them, even on opening day...
I just think the whole discussion around the 3.5L upgrade has a some myth behind it. There are couple of things that are said and sketchy thing go on from Florida on the TL and CL board which I think make things questionable.
Some examples below...
First... mchclsondubs -> mchboostedA4 originally had the 3.5L upgrade and then the car mysteriously ended up in a lake. I think he's on his third car now since he's been on the board... 3.5L CL in a lake, BMW 530i stripped, and now on an Audi A4 1.8T. Either he does not have the cars or his insurance people are really dumb (more likely)
http://www.acura-cl.com/forums/showt...t=3.5L+upgrade
Second, the myster mod which is still a mystery... Autocarparts was supposed to sell it but nothing.
Third, wayneg from Park Ave has talked with the service guys at Rick Case about the upgrade trying to resell it as well and then Rick Case Acura foolios were like no.
So I don't live in Florida so can't verify that there is one and I'm not about to fly down to the swamps to see it.
Believe what you want to believe... I am a skeptic so I do not believe until shown proof.
Part of my reason for my first response is the following...
Example: Mystery Mod... the Res... well... Uhmmm where is it?
Other than in a pic where some guys was walking around the Las Vegas SEMA and happened to show it in a towel? Don't you think that's weird?
There was talk of Rick Case having a booth there at SEMA to display the product. Shit I was there the day before the show opened and looked around for the "vapor ware booth." But I could not even find them, even on opening day...
I just think the whole discussion around the 3.5L upgrade has a some myth behind it. There are couple of things that are said and sketchy thing go on from Florida on the TL and CL board which I think make things questionable.
Some examples below...
First... mchclsondubs -> mchboostedA4 originally had the 3.5L upgrade and then the car mysteriously ended up in a lake. I think he's on his third car now since he's been on the board... 3.5L CL in a lake, BMW 530i stripped, and now on an Audi A4 1.8T. Either he does not have the cars or his insurance people are really dumb (more likely)
http://www.acura-cl.com/forums/showt...t=3.5L+upgrade
Second, the myster mod which is still a mystery... Autocarparts was supposed to sell it but nothing.
Third, wayneg from Park Ave has talked with the service guys at Rick Case about the upgrade trying to resell it as well and then Rick Case Acura foolios were like no.
So I don't live in Florida so can't verify that there is one and I'm not about to fly down to the swamps to see it.
Believe what you want to believe... I am a skeptic so I do not believe until shown proof.
I've known Doug for a few years now... went to the track with him the night he took the black 3.5L CL-S to the strip. Posted timeslips for it, even.
I also posted dyno scans for the 3.5L engine.
I also drove the black 3.5L CL-S for about 45 minutes with my friend John who worked at Rick Case.
Believe what you like, but several members of this and the TL board have seen or ridden in the 3.5L cars. As previously mentioned, a CL member OWNED one.
No conspiracy here.
05-31-2002, 01:26 PM
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Originally posted by JasonT
Give me the $6K to get it done, & i'll drive it up to you & show you personally!
Give me the $6K to get it done, & i'll drive it up to you & show you personally!
6k for you or get the comptech supercharger for myself...
I'll spend it on the supercharger...
why don't you ask AcuraCR he's from beverly hills... hahah
05-31-2002, 01:29 PM
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Re: Re: pipe dreams
Originally posted by RAdams
mch's CL-S was stolen.. and apparently so was his 530. Has nothing to do with a 3.5L "myth". Nor does the [apparent demise of] the RES.
I've known Doug for a few years now... went to the track with him the night he took the black 3.5L CL-S to the strip. Posted timeslips for it, even.
I also posted dyno scans for the 3.5L engine.
I also drove the black 3.5L CL-S for about 45 minutes with my friend John who worked at Rick Case.
Believe what you like, but several members of this and the TL board have seen or ridden in the 3.5L cars. As previously mentioned, a CL member OWNED one.
No conspiracy here.
mch's CL-S was stolen.. and apparently so was his 530. Has nothing to do with a 3.5L "myth". Nor does the [apparent demise of] the RES.
I've known Doug for a few years now... went to the track with him the night he took the black 3.5L CL-S to the strip. Posted timeslips for it, even.
I also posted dyno scans for the 3.5L engine.
I also drove the black 3.5L CL-S for about 45 minutes with my friend John who worked at Rick Case.
Believe what you like, but several members of this and the TL board have seen or ridden in the 3.5L cars. As previously mentioned, a CL member OWNED one.
No conspiracy here.
05-31-2002, 01:33 PM
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Re: Re: pipe dreams
Originally posted by RAdams
mch's CL-S was stolen.. and apparently so was his 530. Has nothing to do with a 3.5L "myth". Nor does the [apparent demise of] the RES.
I've known Doug for a few years now... went to the track with him the night he took the black 3.5L CL-S to the strip. Posted timeslips for it, even.
I also posted dyno scans for the 3.5L engine.
I also drove the black 3.5L CL-S for about 45 minutes with my friend John who worked at Rick Case.
Believe what you like, but several members of this and the TL board have seen or ridden in the 3.5L cars. As previously mentioned, a CL member OWNED one.
No conspiracy here.
mch's CL-S was stolen.. and apparently so was his 530. Has nothing to do with a 3.5L "myth". Nor does the [apparent demise of] the RES.
I've known Doug for a few years now... went to the track with him the night he took the black 3.5L CL-S to the strip. Posted timeslips for it, even.
I also posted dyno scans for the 3.5L engine.
I also drove the black 3.5L CL-S for about 45 minutes with my friend John who worked at Rick Case.
Believe what you like, but several members of this and the TL board have seen or ridden in the 3.5L cars. As previously mentioned, a CL member OWNED one.
No conspiracy here.
You Floridians are always right...Fine... I'll back out of this thread....
But ACURACR unless you are going to send your car there for 3-6 months... I would recommend skipping the 3.5L mod for the time being and getting the supercharger.
05-31-2002, 03:07 PM
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Re: Re: Re: pipe dreams
Originally posted by bobowah
You Floridians are always right...
Fine... I'll back out of this thread....
You Floridians are always right...Fine... I'll back out of this thread....
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Shane,
Just give me a call. We'll see what we need to do to get you into a 3.5liter upgrade
, if that's really what you want. Just keep in mind that there will be downtime associated with this type of mod. Your block will have to be pulled and completely built. This isn't a small job, for all intensive purposes you will be getting a fully built motor.
Just give me a call. We'll see what we need to do to get you into a 3.5liter upgrade
, if that's really what you want. Just keep in mind that there will be downtime associated with this type of mod. Your block will have to be pulled and completely built. This isn't a small job, for all intensive purposes you will be getting a fully built motor.
05-31-2002, 07:07 PM
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What is the downtime for doing the 3.5L upgrade? And what are the HP gains from it, as well as the 1/4 mile and 0-60 times?
From what it looks like, I think it would be more beneficial all the way around as well as more cost efficient to get the super charger. As soon as I get word about the Super Charger, I will most likely get it. The only thing I am concerned with is the traction, and the tranny. The car already has trouble holding the road when you floor it, who knows what it will do when you have another 100 hp or so behind the wheel. Let me know. Thanks in advance.
-Shane
From what it looks like, I think it would be more beneficial all the way around as well as more cost efficient to get the super charger. As soon as I get word about the Super Charger, I will most likely get it. The only thing I am concerned with is the traction, and the tranny. The car already has trouble holding the road when you floor it, who knows what it will do when you have another 100 hp or so behind the wheel. Let me know. Thanks in advance.
-Shane
05-31-2002, 07:55 PM
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From the FAQ:
Roughly 315 hp and 254 ft lbs of torque
0-60 in 5.7 seconds, 1/4 mile in 14.0 sec.
Note runs done at Moroso Motorsports Park in 90 degree and 90% humidity.
Parts:
From MDX: Crank, bearing, pistons, rods, tranny housing 1->2, intake plenum spacer
Comptech Headers, springs, sways
AEM 2.5" CAI
Brushed aluminum interior
Apex VTEC Controller
Head work is done by the Propulsion Laboratory in conjunction with John Brown Racing of S. Florida.
Compression ratio is 10.85:1
Takes 8 work days to produce/convert one powertrain.
Cost: $4999 for 315 HP, and $6999 for a 335 HP Gen II set-up.
One acura-cl.com got the conversion, ran great with it, and had no transmission problems at all
Roughly 315 hp and 254 ft lbs of torque
0-60 in 5.7 seconds, 1/4 mile in 14.0 sec.
Note runs done at Moroso Motorsports Park in 90 degree and 90% humidity.
Parts:
From MDX: Crank, bearing, pistons, rods, tranny housing 1->2, intake plenum spacer
Comptech Headers, springs, sways
AEM 2.5" CAI
Brushed aluminum interior
Apex VTEC Controller
Head work is done by the Propulsion Laboratory in conjunction with John Brown Racing of S. Florida.
Compression ratio is 10.85:1
Takes 8 work days to produce/convert one powertrain.
Cost: $4999 for 315 HP, and $6999 for a 335 HP Gen II set-up.
One acura-cl.com got the conversion, ran great with it, and had no transmission problems at all
06-01-2002, 12:11 AM
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What kind of 0-60 and 1/4 mile times do you guys think I would be running with both the 3.5L upgrade and the Comptech Supercharger? What would the horsepower be at as well? Let me know? Thanks in advance.
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if someone actually went through all the truoble and $$$$ to give a CL-S a 3.5 upgrade AND the supercharger....the thing should run no more than high 11's and 0-60 in 5 flat....if all that work and money cant get a CL-S down to the 11's thats pretty sad...of course youd probably need friggin racing slicks on the front wheels, mickey tompsons or something....if i spent 6000 on the 3.5 upgrade and another 4000 + on the supercharger, id hang myself i the car couldnt run 11's...take any other car and throw 10,000 bucks at it for mods and yuo can easily be in the 11's or even lower!!
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jsut for comparisons sake, there are people with 97-02 GTPs with no more than 3000 dollars in mods running LOW 12's!!!!! its sad that we would have to spend 3-4 times that money to compete with them.
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Re: Re: pipe dreams
I have to back RAdams on this one. I actually drove the Black 3.5 CL-S before it was sold. It was damn fast!!! All you haters don't have to believe (that's your right) but I can honestly tell you the 3.5 L Upgrade does exist. Now whether or not it's worth the $$, that's another thread. 
Originally posted by RAdams
Believe what you like, but several members of this and the TL board have seen or ridden in the 3.5L cars. As previously mentioned, a CL member OWNED one.
No conspiracy here.
Believe what you like, but several members of this and the TL board have seen or ridden in the 3.5L cars. As previously mentioned, a CL member OWNED one.
No conspiracy here.
06-01-2002, 06:34 PM
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w/ the 3.5L & sc you'd still be in the 12's. it would take nitrous on top of it all to get 11's. imhfo.
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Would Supercharging on the 3.5 even be possible? Reason being, the 3.5 runs compression of 11.85, while it's usually necessary to lower compression when running boost, hmm.. I wonder how that would work. Any answers?
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07-10-2002, 06:48 PM
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Originally posted by jyang411
Would Supercharging on the 3.5 even be possible? Reason being, the 3.5 runs compression of 11.85, while it's usually necessary to lower compression when running boost, hmm.. I wonder how that would work. Any answers?
-jyang411
Would Supercharging on the 3.5 even be possible? Reason being, the 3.5 runs compression of 11.85, while it's usually necessary to lower compression when running boost, hmm.. I wonder how that would work. Any answers?
-jyang411
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11s would still be tough on a blown 3.5, IMO...
High compression, non-cooled boost, I would think making that happen would steer the car away from streetability with the tuning, suspension and fuel you'd need to use.
High compression, non-cooled boost, I would think making that happen would steer the car away from streetability with the tuning, suspension and fuel you'd need to use.
07-10-2002, 10:17 PM
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Originally posted by Pull_T
11s would still be tough on a blown 3.5, IMO...
High compression, non-cooled boost, I would think making that happen would steer the car away from streetability with the tuning, suspension and fuel you'd need to use.
11s would still be tough on a blown 3.5, IMO...
High compression, non-cooled boost, I would think making that happen would steer the car away from streetability with the tuning, suspension and fuel you'd need to use.
who said non cooled?
there's TONS of room under the CLs bumper for an intercooler...
just wait till they hear the price of a godo intercooler LOL
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Originally posted by Astroboy
who said non cooled?
there's TONS of room under the CLs bumper for an intercooler...
just wait till they hear the price of a godo intercooler LOL
who said non cooled?
there's TONS of room under the CLs bumper for an intercooler...
just wait till they hear the price of a godo intercooler LOL
07-10-2002, 11:47 PM
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Originally posted by jimcol711
if someone actually went through all the truoble and $$$$ to give a CL-S a 3.5 upgrade AND the supercharger....the thing should run no more than high 11's and 0-60 in 5 flat....if all that work and money cant get a CL-S down to the 11's thats pretty sad...of course youd probably need friggin racing slicks on the front wheels, mickey tompsons or something....if i spent 6000 on the 3.5 upgrade and another 4000 + on the supercharger, id hang myself i the car couldnt run 11's...take any other car and throw 10,000 bucks at it for mods and yuo can easily be in the 11's or even lower!!
if someone actually went through all the truoble and $$$$ to give a CL-S a 3.5 upgrade AND the supercharger....the thing should run no more than high 11's and 0-60 in 5 flat....if all that work and money cant get a CL-S down to the 11's thats pretty sad...of course youd probably need friggin racing slicks on the front wheels, mickey tompsons or something....if i spent 6000 on the 3.5 upgrade and another 4000 + on the supercharger, id hang myself i the car couldnt run 11's...take any other car and throw 10,000 bucks at it for mods and yuo can easily be in the 11's or even lower!!
I think the hanging would be a real possibility.... and I really like the idea of a CLS sleeper.
Perhaps if some "real" drag slicks were installed with some "traction devices"... (Not a daily driver)
There is a lot of loss in an Auto (with no LSD) and the manual would still need to get the power down to the ground.
I would love to see one of these get into the low 13s, but the 3.5L (given the rather hot temps that hurt great run times) only managed 13.9 (or so) in rather hot temps.
The car needs to pick-up a lot at the high-speed end of the track due to the weight transfer issues. And, considering that the 3.5 with modded torque converter would melting Michelin Pilots, I would think it would need to start looking like 1) manual tranny or 2) auto tranny with lots of love, care, cooler, synthetic fluid, mods?, etc 3) traction assist devices (take your pick).
I don't think it would be a "daily driver", but it's just my opinion...
(Hey, gut the sucker, and add wheelie bars, slicks, etc and save some money on the HP end of things and make it a dedicated "lightened" CLS with some NOS)
07-11-2002, 09:59 AM
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i don't get it....
why all of this internal engine work? why not just get a 3.5 from a salvage MDX or RL, clean it up and drop it in? i would think if you wanted higher compression, you could just mill the heads a smidge.
07-11-2002, 02:21 PM
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Originally posted by CL SLeePeR
How would the 3.5L upgrade handle extra boost? Any insight?
How would the 3.5L upgrade handle extra boost? Any insight?
07-11-2002, 03:41 PM
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no 3.5l upgrade
all this talk of upgrading got me upset again.. i was getting ready to drive down to Rick Case and was speaking with Doug twice a week, until the day i called and they said he doesnt work there nemore 
so the only cars that were done at Rick Case exist as 3.5l and no more will be made.
so the only cars that were done at Rick Case exist as 3.5l and no more will be made.
07-11-2002, 03:45 PM
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Re: pipe dreams
[QUOTE]Originally posted by bobowah
[B]Part of my reason for my first response is the following...
Example: Mystery Mod... the Res... well... Uhmmm where is it?
Other than in a pic where some guys was walking around the Las Vegas SEMA and happened to show it in a towel? Don't you think that's weird?
There was talk of Rick Case having a booth there at SEMA to display the product. Shit I was there the day before the show opened and looked around for the "vapor ware booth." But I could not even find them, even on opening day...
I just think the whole discussion around the 3.5L upgrade has a some myth behind it. There are couple of things that are said and sketchy thing go on from Florida on the TL and CL board which I think make things questionable.
Some examples below...
First... mchclsondubs -> mchboostedA4 originally had the 3.5L upgrade and then the car mysteriously ended up in a lake. I think he's on his third car now since he's been on the board... 3.5L CL in a lake, BMW 530i stripped, and now on an Audi A4 1.8T. Either he does not have the cars or his insurance people are really dumb (more likely)
http://www.acura-cl.com/forums/showt...t=3.5L+upgrade
YOUR A HATER :pfawk:
[B]Part of my reason for my first response is the following...
Example: Mystery Mod... the Res... well... Uhmmm where is it?
Other than in a pic where some guys was walking around the Las Vegas SEMA and happened to show it in a towel? Don't you think that's weird?
There was talk of Rick Case having a booth there at SEMA to display the product. Shit I was there the day before the show opened and looked around for the "vapor ware booth." But I could not even find them, even on opening day...
I just think the whole discussion around the 3.5L upgrade has a some myth behind it. There are couple of things that are said and sketchy thing go on from Florida on the TL and CL board which I think make things questionable.
Some examples below...
First... mchclsondubs -> mchboostedA4 originally had the 3.5L upgrade and then the car mysteriously ended up in a lake. I think he's on his third car now since he's been on the board... 3.5L CL in a lake, BMW 530i stripped, and now on an Audi A4 1.8T. Either he does not have the cars or his insurance people are really dumb (more likely)
http://www.acura-cl.com/forums/showt...t=3.5L+upgrade
YOUR A HATER :pfawk:
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Re: no 3.5l upgrade
Originally posted by ZodiakTL
all this talk of upgrading got me upset again.. i was getting ready to drive down to Rick Case and was speaking with Doug twice a week, until the day i called and they said he doesnt work there nemore
so the only cars that were done at Rick Case exist as 3.5l and no more will be made.
all this talk of upgrading got me upset again.. i was getting ready to drive down to Rick Case and was speaking with Doug twice a week, until the day i called and they said he doesnt work there nemore
so the only cars that were done at Rick Case exist as 3.5l and no more will be made.