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Old 04-12-2009, 06:03 PM
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3.5 Altima SER?? hmm

Well i'm not sure if this is already discussed. However, i just want to know. My friend just bought a 3.5 Altima SER 06 i think. I would just go and rce him but he's in Alabama. He's talkin big smack!!!! He has the 06 sedan version. I think they come with 265 stock. how do we match up against them things??

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Could be interesting. Ive been wanting to race one for awhile now.
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Yeah i know. I haven't had the pleasure as of yet. I think it will be close. But i also think i'll edge him out.
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I raced one with my CL-Pee and got walked on. :/
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They are pretty quick. If you both go at the same time you'll edge him out. Just dont miss a gear
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He will out tourqe you down low and smash you from a dig, take him from a 40 roll.
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I don't like these responses lol. Hmm. I think i'll buy some pulleys before heading out there this summer :-)
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Not going to be enough, he has at least 30WTQ on you....
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I just got walked buy one from a 35 mph roll to about 70.

With your 6sp and mods I think you should give him a pretty good run.
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Not going to be enough, he has at least 30WTQ on you....
The 06 Altima only has 251 TQ, CLS 232. Thats only a 19 diff. Not 30. HP is the same 260. And that does not include the mods on his CL6. With his mods hiis motor should be around 280HP. Maybe a tad more.

But the Altima does weight about 200 lbs less. Not a huge diff.

I think his CLS6 would win.

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Originally Posted by CH46ESeaKnight
The 06 Altima only has 251 TQ, CLS 232. Thats only a 19 diff. Not 30. HP is the same 260. And that does not include the mods on his CL6. With his mods hiis motor should be around 280HP. Maybe a tad more.

But the Altima does weight about 200 lbs less. Not a huge diff.

I think his CLS6 would win.
The Altima weighs LESS than the CLS6? Ouch. Yeah i'm gonna run him this summer. I don't think i'll get the supercharger (waste of money) but what other engine mods can i do besides pulleys to ensure the victory more so. I'm probbaly a better driver than him. Should be fun
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a 50 shot of nitrous should do the trick
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Originally Posted by 6sp_03
The Altima weighs LESS than the CLS6? Ouch. Yeah i'm gonna run him this summer. I don't think i'll get the supercharger (waste of money) but what other engine mods can i do besides pulleys to ensure the victory more so. I'm probbaly a better driver than him. Should be fun
Headers, pulley and CAI are all you need. SE-R's are quick but a CLS 6 speed with those mods shouldn't have a problem winning.
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i doubt he's going to leave the altima stock?
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Well you won't want to put any money on the race. Stock those SE-R 6spds are capable of low 14's stock around 99MPH. Basically its enough to take out a stock 6spd CL-S by a car length, however you have some good mods that would put you in the high 13's. I would say its a great drivers race. Check out some of the youtube vids of those SE-R's.
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Originally Posted by CH46ESeaKnight

But the Altima does weight about 200 lbs less. Not a huge diff.

I think his CLS6 would win.

200lbs is a huge difference considering the Altima SE-R has more torque, more horsepower and weighs less.
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Specs:

CL-S6
-3446lbs (no navi)
-260hp @6100rpm
-232tq @3500rpm

SE-R
-3279lbs(6speed), 3316(auto)
-260hp @6000rpm
-251tq @3600rpm

The big thing is whether or not your friends SE-R is a 6spd or auto. With headers, intake, and lightweight pulleys, you shouldn't have a problem beating him, as long as you have a good jump, and don't screw up any shifts.

When the CL originally came out Motor Week managed a 1/4 mile time of 14.2 in the 6 speed. A quick search on dragtimes.com netted me a 6 speed SE-R that ran a 14.2, with a K&N filter. An 03 CL-S6 with just an Icebox ran a 14.0. Those were the two fastest near stock cars on that site.

http://www.dragtimes.com/compare2.ph...ame=Compare%21

As others said, it's a drivers race
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Smoke him

Originally Posted by 6sp_03
Well i'm not sure if this is already discussed. However, i just want to know. My friend just bought a 3.5 Altima SER 06 i think. I would just go and rce him but he's in Alabama. He's talkin big smack!!!! He has the 06 sedan version. I think they come with 265 stock. how do we match up against them things??

03 CLS 6spd

intake, headers, greddy exhaust...


thanks
YOU should smoke him with no problem if you can beat 350z then you hve no prblm
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Originally Posted by SatinSilverAV6
200lbs is a huge difference considering the Altima SE-R has more torque, more horsepower and weighs less.

The SE-R does not have more HP!
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Originally Posted by CH46ESeaKnight
The SE-R does not have more HP!
Yes it does. The CL-S does not have 260HP SAE. That 260HP number came out before the SAE corrections. Look at what the CL-S puts down to the wheels stock 6spd and auto as far as WHP. It basically matches the 03-07 Accord V6 auto and 6spd as far as WHP. The CL-S puts out more like 245 crank.

You can get an idea by looking at the 04-08 base TL which was rated at 270HP but downgraded to 258 SAE.
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Originally Posted by SatinSilverAV6
Yes it does. The CL-S does not have 260HP SAE. That 260HP number came out before the SAE corrections. Look at what the CL-S puts down to the wheels stock 6spd and auto as far as WHP. It basically matches the 03-07 Accord V6 auto and 6spd as far as WHP. The CL-S puts out more like 245 crank.

You can get an idea by looking at the 04-08 base TL which was rated at 270HP but downgraded to 258 SAE.
CL-S6's usually put down around 220hp at the wheels. With the usual 15% drivetrain loss that would put it about 260hp. I've never seen a stock 6MT 7th gen put down the same numbers as a CL-S6.
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Originally Posted by civicdrivr
CL-S6's usually put down around 220hp at the wheels. With the usual 15% drivetrain loss that would put it about 260hp. I've never seen a stock 6MT 7th gen put down the same numbers as a CL-S6.
I have seen most dyno Jets for a CL-S 6SPD around 215whp-218 whp. There are many 6spd accords putting down 214whp-218 stock.

Here is one for stock CL-S6 216whp on this site.
http://www.acura-cl.com/forums/showthread.php?t=421266

They don't usually put down 220whp. I wouldn't doubt if one did on a good day. But I haven't found one put down 220whp stock yet. Those cars do gain WHP and WTQ nicely with mods though!

CL-S autos stock put down 200whp. AV6 autos like mine put down 198WHP stock and 181TQ.
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Hmmmmm. I'm pretty sure ToV made 220whp on a stock CL-S6 when it first came out. Ill search later for it.

And remember, with the new SAE ratings the 7th gen Accord actaully gained hp, up 4 from 240hp.
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Originally Posted by civicdrivr
Hmmmmm. I'm pretty sure ToV made 220whp on a stock CL-S6 when it first came out. Ill search later for it.

And remember, with the new SAE ratings the 7th gen Accord actaully gained hp, up 4 from 240hp.
You might be right. I tried to look up the dyno's on TOV for the Acura CL-S6 and Accord V6 6spd but I think they deleted them.
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