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Old 02-27-2004, 02:01 PM
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225's or 235's????

I need to order my summer tires for my stock 17's VERY SOON and can't decide between 225's and 235 Kumho Supra 712's. I have heard of some members having alignment problems after mounting 235/45/17's on their stock wheels. But I have also read about some who have absolutely no troubles with this width. I would love to put 235's on, but I don't want to have any problems.

I don't know if their are other factors in the cases where people have problems with 235's or not. My CL-S is 100% stock right now, but I plan on dropping it with Comptech springs and Tokico Blue's. I don't know if those mods will help or hurt the possibility of me having alignment issues if I go with 235/45/17 tires.

Should I just play it safe and go with 225/45/17's?
Is going up only one size from stock going to feel ANY different to me?...besides going from Michelin's to Kumhos, of course!!
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I've got CT springs on my CLS 6sp and went with Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 225/50ZR17s on stock rims. Haven't had any problems after 14k miles. Don't know about Kumho Supra, but I don't think you'll have a problem with the 225s. I was considering going to 235s later, but I think with a wider rim, I would probably have rubbing problems.
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I am running the Michelin pilots in 222/50/17 on the TSX 17" 5-Star factory rim.

My car is lowered with CT springs and I also have CT sways as well.

I find that the sterring seems lighter at speed as opposed to a stock TL-S.,, but the car runs around curves very flat with no roll.
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Check out this link-
http://www.acura-cl.com/forums/showt...hreadid=130505

I have 235/45/17 Michelin Pilot Sport A/S on my CT drop and OEM rims, and they work well. I enjoy the tires alot.

You shouldn't have a problem with the 235/45/17-
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Thanks for the link, greyjhu...Very helpful!

Should I consider 225/50/17's. They have a slightly LARGER diameter compared to stock 215/50/17? Would that be a better move than 225/45/17, because they have a slightly SMALLER diameter compared to stock. Any thoughts??


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235's should put your rolling diameter very close to stock. 225/45's will rotate more per mile than stock so mileage will rack up a little quicker. Generally, the sidewall might also be a little stiffer so the ride might suffer a little but it should handle better. Of course, these variances also occur between different tires of the same size. All things to consider.
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I thought the ride would be better w/ 235's cause u would have more meat on the sidewall than a 225??
Old 02-28-2004, 07:43 AM
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Originally posted by dgracer
Generally, the sidewall might also be a little stiffer so the ride might suffer a little but it should handle better.
You're talking about the 235's, right??

How possible is it that I will have rubbing problems since my Cl is otherwise stock? How about if/when I get Comptech springs and Tokico Blue's?

Does anyone here have or know someone with all of the above... the CT springs, Tokico Blue's, '03 stock wheels AND 235/45/15's???? I'd love to pick that person's brain.
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go with the 235s you shouldn't have any problems with rubbing or too much ride degradation.

Sorry I can't help more I have 235/ 40s with the CT springs and sway bars but I'm roll'n on 18''s.

I will say this if your going to drop it, the car will look a lot better with 18''s. My stock '03 17'' factory wheels just didn't look right after I dropped it.
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Thanks for the advice, jruss9819.

If I had the choice, I would probably go with 225/50/17's, but they don't make the Kumho Supra 712 in that size.

Oh, well; back to the drawing board, I guess. I'm pretty sure I will go with the 235/50/17, but who knows. I will probably change my mind twenty times before I pull the trigger at tirerack.com.
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235/45/17 is the way to go. No more curbcheck.
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is 235\45\17 stock rolling diameter?
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Originally posted by blader
is 235\45\17 stock rolling diameter?
Rolling stock???

215/50/17 is stock size.
I just wish Kumho made the Supra 712 in 225/50/17. But.......I won't complain about that anymore. I promise.
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Originally posted by blader
is 235\45\17 stock rolling diameter?
6% smaller.
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fun tool

http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html
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235, i like the look of wider wheels and and your on 17s still so i wouldnt be to careful on any rubbing issues
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tirerack just emailed me about my stock 01 rim size and the 235/45/17 i ordered, should i go ahead and tell him to ship me the 235s or play it safe and change it to 225s?
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i have 235's with stock cl-s rims,,, no problems
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Originally posted by rise
tirerack just emailed me about my stock 01 rim size and the 235/45/17 i ordered, should i go ahead and tell him to ship me the 235s or play it safe and change it to 225s?
I wish I knew what to tell you, but I am struggling with the same issue. I have also heard that summer tires of the same size "can" (not always, but "can") be wider than all-season tires. So a 235 summer tire "can" actually be wider than a 235 allseason tire...almost as much as one size wider. Therefore, from what I have read from others on this site, a 235 summer, based on the tire make, can be nearly as wide as a 245 allseason tire from another maker.

Apparently the tolerance in terms of measuring width of some summer tires are larger than others. I don't want to order a 235 summer tire that actually measures almost the same width as a 245 allseason tire. That would be too wide for our stock wheels.

This is causing me to lean towards "chickening out" on ordering 235's, playing it safe, and ordering 225's. I might just do that. When I decide, I will post my final decision. Good luck.
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I am having similiar issues in trying to decide the tire size to go with. I am upgrading to 18x7.5 wheels and trying to decide between 235s or 225s and between a 40 vs a 45 profile. Tire rack is recommending 225/45-18. For now I am thinking of going with the Yohohama AVS ES100 summer tires. Any tips from folks that have this setup ? The only reason I want to go with 45 profile is to avoid rim damage. Using the miata tool, 235/40-18 is most like the stock setup.
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Originally posted by Nofear6370
I am having similiar issues in trying to decide the tire size to go with. I am upgrading to 18x7.5 wheels and trying to decide between 235s or 225s and between a 40 vs a 45 profile. Tire rack is recommending 225/45-18. For now I am thinking of going with the Yohohama AVS ES100 summer tires. Any tips from folks that have this setup ? The only reason I want to go with 45 profile is to avoid rim damage. Using the miata tool, 235/40-18 is most like the stock setup.
I have the exact same dilemna!
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Originally posted by ferizzo
I have the exact same dilemna!
What are u going to do? :-)
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I am thinking about 235/40/18 but who knows. I may chicken out also and get 225/45/18s. I'll let you know. I get my wheels this weekend and then have about 1 week to think about what tires I want.
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Originally posted by ferizzo
I am thinking about 235/40/18 but who knows. I may chicken out also and get 225/45/18s. I'll let you know. I get my wheels this weekend and then have about 1 week to think about what tires I want.
K I have decided on the 225/45 - 18 Yokohama AVS ES100's for the ASA AR1 rims. I checked out a handful of tires and they do not recommend the 235 width for a rim less than 8 inches. I know plenty of folks have done 235 on their stock wheels but I am gonna go with the tire company recommendations, I dont want my tire popping off in an emergency. As far as the profile i think 45 will be better for the rim considering I live in the nyc/LI area. The 225/45 - 18 setup increases the overall diameter by .5 inches so it should not be noticable.

Happy hunting and thanks for all the input guys
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235 would look great...
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I ran 235/45/17 SO3's for over 2 years w/o any problems (on the stock wheels.)
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