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Old 06-24-2002, 02:40 PM
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2004 Pontiac GTO

I know it's a Pontiac, but I think it looks good. Hopefully GM is upping its standards.





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Old 06-24-2002, 02:42 PM
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ive been reading about this thing, supposedly, it may be AWD as well!! this type of car could get me back into domestics, thats for sure...
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I hope the interior is up to CLS and Euro standard... not like a Ford mustang
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looks great, but a saying i have heard comes to mind.

after 40k engine goes jinggel jinggel
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Originally posted by rabs99
looks great, but a saying i have heard comes to mind.

after 40k engine goes jinggel jinggel
Kinda like our transmissions at 20k, JK.
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Originally posted by scalbert


Kinda like our transmissions at 20k, JK.
You mean at 10K miles.

But hopefully this car is more than just all engine. It's expected to be around $30K, so it better have a decent interior.
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Don't count on a nice interior. A friend bought a T-bird and our interior BLOWS it away.
Old 06-24-2002, 03:18 PM
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Originally posted by rabs99
looks great, but a saying i have heard comes to mind.

after 40k engine goes jinggel jinggel
The LS1 is an excellent motor - you are mistaken. :thumbsdn:

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As for the car - basically a Holden HSV GTO.

http://www.hsv.com.au/news/2002/pontiacf.html

Will be in the 330hp range and it is said that the gas-guzzler
tax will be in place for this one. Unlike its F-body and 'Vette brethren which have a 1-4 skip-shift to avoid the tax, according to Lutz, they aren't going to do that.

I wasn't too happy with the latest artistic rendition. Looks to much like a Grand Am or Grand Prix

Well see what happens. At least it's a move in the right direction.
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Originally posted by Rod

But hopefully this car is more than just all engine. It's expected to be around $30K, so it better have a decent interior.
From various pics I have seen it appears Holden does a pretty nice job on the interior. But if it is Pontiacized, who knows what it will be like.

Any people here who have been to Austrailia and driven a Holden care to comment on their interiors?? I suspect it will be different than the CL but possibly comparable in quality.
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Sorry guys I have to quote mag times, the july motortrend has a review on the GTO and all i have to say is..... for the engine to be 330hp a 0-60 of only 6.5 sec REALLY SUCKS ASS! Don't flame me, i was just reading the most recent article on it, trying to find facts.
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That thing looks like a Grand Prix on STEROIDS!!!!!!!!
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Pontiac...

My first car was a 1988 Pontiac Bonneville SSE. It had a body kit and all options. It was powerful as hell and the interior was excellent. Big leather seats up front, wood trim, etc. Pontiac can do a nice interior when it wants to and their engines hold up. The rest of the car is a whole nother story. My ABS system went out and I had to pay $1K for a master cylinder that didn't fix a damn thing. As much as I was at the dealership for service I saw way to many brand new pontiacs in for service. It was nice while I had, but I will never own a pontiac again! It barely had 100K on it when I had to throw it away.
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Sorry guys I have to quote mag times, the july motortrend has a review on the GTO and all i have to say is..... for the engine to be 330hp a 0-60 of only 6.5 sec REALLY SUCKS ASS! Don't flame me, i was just reading the most recent article on it, trying to find facts.
The mag tested the 302hp Holden. The one coming here is supposed to be in the 330+ range. I think the 6.5 was also for the automatic. C&D tested the Auto version and it was around 6.5 0-60. I am guessing mid 5's for the 6 speed when it comes here.

BTW, the LS1 is a wonderful motor. Simple, powerful, fuel efficient (for it's size) and reliable. I am seriously considering the GTO. BTW, a friend of mine is from Australia and he has a Holden Commodore (4 door version of this car). He had pictures of the interior and it seemed that is was nicer than the usual GM crap we get here. Not Acura or BMW quality, but not bad at all.
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Originally posted by nd9ta




The LS1 is an excellent motor - you are mistaken. :thumbsdn:



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As for the car - basically a Holden HSV GTO.



http://www.hsv.com.au/news/2002/pontiacf.html



Will be in the 330hp range and it is said that the gas-guzzler

tax will be in place for this one. Unlike its F-body and 'Vette brethren which have a 1-4 skip-shift to avoid the tax, according to Lutz, they aren't going to do that.



I wasn't too happy with the latest artistic rendition. Looks to much like a Grand Am or Grand Prix



Well see what happens. At least it's a move in the right direction.
Ya, LS1 is a good engine. But the interior in a vette is nothing to get excited about... rattle rattle

I also think it looks like a grand am, LOL, GM has a way to go, they seem to still be brabbing from the parts bin and whipping out a car... But it's also not out yet, so this is only my presumption....
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Looks pretty good for an american made car.... in the picture that is, have to see the real thing to give my real input on this car..
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looks good IMO.
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Originally posted by SiGGy


Ya, LS1 is a good engine. But the interior in a vette is nothing to get excited about... rattle rattle

I also think it looks like a grand am, LOL, GM has a way to go, they seem to still be brabbing from the parts bin and whipping out a car... But it's also not out yet, so this is only my presumption....
The quality of the interior of the current Vettes is much improved over the ones even 1 and a half years ago. Especially that of the Z06.
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