RMGCL-S

Sup everyone,
I was wondering if 18 X8.5 wheel is too wide for our cars. I think the offset of the wheel is 35mm. I got a good price on a set of new Neeper Fly wheels, I just hope they can fit.

arthurc

I am not 100% sure but im inclined to say no.
AC

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RMGCL-S

Yeah, I have a feeling it wont work out, but the wheels are pretty cheap and i was hoping that it could work. If anyone out there has 18 X 8.5, please give me some feedback

Dacat

Ogolden1's got those Zenetti Vega's (18x8.5) and if I recall, it did fit. It all depends on the offset. I had them too, but I sold them for other reasons. They did stick out a bit though, well right to the lip of the body instead of about an inch within. I think I'd stay with 8" at the most, looks more natural.

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Jeckle and Hyde

I thougt i saw a tire calc some where. the 8" @ 44-48 just fits inside, the 35s would push the inside away, but would now have about 3/4" more hanging out -- ok if not lowered -- ?? guess ??

Dacat

Yeah, if you lower it too much, it'll most likely rub with 235's, I didn't get a chance to lower mine before I sold them. Hence, stick with the 8", safer all around...



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RMGCL-S

SO there is a chance that if i run the 18 X 8.5 with a 225/40/18 it would work? Any one have pics?

Akim711

RMG... yeah, i have 18x8.5 with 225/40's.
245/40 does fit too, but i just got 225 just incase... if you wanna see a pic, you can find my car on the "pics of cleared lights and rims", still a fairly new topic in the Car Talk forum.

and 18x8.5 will indeed fit... you MUST make sure your offset is right... mine is 41mm, but take note that i have a CL-P, and the offsets are different from a premium and a type-s.

for a type-s, the offset aim is about 50mm, and for a CL-P, the offset aim is about 40.

in my opinion, 8.5" is TOO thick. i only got 8.5 width because i got a really good deal on them... but the good thing about it is that steering feels 'thicker'. i'd recommend 18x7.5,7.0 with an offset of 45-50mm. the best thing to go with would be the stock width...
so 18x7 with a 50mm offset would be an ideal wheel spec upgrade for a Type-S.

hope this helps!

-andy

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-Comptech sport springs
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-225/40/ZR18 Pirelli P-Zero (front)
-225/40/ZR18 Pirelli P-7000 Supersport (rear)
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KavexTrax

If I can recall correctly, one of Ogolden's Zenetti rims either bent or had been dislodged somehow and he was sent a replacement one from Zenetti.



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Brack

The CL-S stock wheel is 17x7 +55mm. If you increase the width by .5" then you should decrease the + offset by 5mm to +50mm, and if you go to 8",then you would do best to go to +45mm offset. Do you agree ?
(not an expert, just figuring)

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Mike
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CO-CL-S

Take a look at the following site that calculates the inner and outer changes:
http://www.tolan-oechst.com/cars/tirecalc.htm

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DrJeckle and Hyde

Sorry, but the Dr. discovered that link is dead (or wrong); this most useful link is:

http://www.tolan-hoechst.com/cars/tirecalc.htm

Dr. think a 8.5 is very wide. 40 mm would with a 225 or 235 would be possible if car wasnt' lowered too much.

33 mm in a 8.5 makes for pleanty of room on the inside of the wheel and tire, but Dr. predicts patent will need inner fender surgery or will welcome the a visit from the DR (if the doctor has sharpened his bag-o-tools).


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[This message has been edited by DrJeckle and Hyde (edited 04-01-2001).]

FutureCL

most people say 8.5s will rub when you are lowered. i like the neeper daggs personally, and they come in 18x7



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DrJeckle and Hyde

The keyword here is "most" say. proly right

A small tire on a 18x8.5 might make it -- see tire calc link.

The following works with a car that isn't lowered too much

235/45 - 17 tires

with 17 x 8 +48 offset

I tried the calc, research the wheels, run the combo, and it works great. Added some people and weight to try to simulate lowering. Sorry, I can't guarantee some of the street scraping lowering jobs, but anything with Comptech like lowering will work -- no problem.



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DrJeckle and Hyde

Here is a typical listing from the tire-calc width link comparing the stock tire and rim vs a 235/45-17 on a 17x8" rim with a +48 offset:


<table border=1 cellpadding=1 width="60%">
<tr>
<td width="44%">

<strong>Section width (millimeters):</strong>

</td>
<td width="16%">
<p align=center >215</p>
</td>
<td width="40%">
<p align=center >235</p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="44%">


<strong>Tire aspect ratio:</strong>
</td>
<td width="16%">
<p align=center>50</p>
</td>
<td width="40%">
<p align=center>45</p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="44%">


<strong>Wheel diameter (inches):</strong>
</td>
<td width="16%">
<p align=center>17</p>
</td>
<td width="40%">
<p align=center >17</p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="44%">
<strong>Wheel width (inches):</strong></p>
</td>
<td width="16%">
<p align=center>7</p>
</td>
<td width="40%">
<p align=center>8</p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="44%">

<strong>Wheel offset (mm):</strong></p>
</td>
<td width="16%">
<p align=center>55</p>
</td>
<td width="40%">
<p align=center>48</p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td colspan=3>
<p align=center><strong>
<span>Fitment Results</span></strong></p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="44%"> </td>
<td width="16%">
<p align=center >Current</p>
</td>
<td width="40%">
<p align=center >Planned</p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="44%">


<strong>Tire height (inches):</strong>
</td>
<td width="16%"> 25.46 </td>
<td width="40%"> 25.33 </td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="44%">
<strong>Ride height difference (inches):</strong>
</td>
<td width="16%">
<p align=center >- N/A -</p>
</td>
<td width="40%"> -0.065 </td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="44%">

<strong>Tire width difference (inches):</strong>
</td>
<td width="16%">
<p align=center >- N/A -</p>
</td>
<td width ="40%">0.79 </td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="44%">

<strong>Tire rollout (inches):</strong>
</td>
<td width="16%"> 79.98 </td>
<td width="40%"> 79.58 </td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="44%">

<strong>Wheel/Tire Aspect Ratio (%):</strong>
</td>
<td width="16%">82</td>
<td width="40%">86</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="44%">

<strong>Wheel diameter difference (inches):</strong>
</td>
<td width="16%">
<p align=center >- N/A -</p>
</td>
<td width="40%"> 0 </td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="44%">

<strong>Wheel width difference (inches):</strong>
</td>
<td width="16%">
<p align=center >- N/A -</p>
</td>
<td width ="40%"> 1 </td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="44%">

<strong>Wheel offset difference (mm):</strong>
</td>
<td width="16%">
<p align=center >- N/A -</p>
</td>
<td width="40%"> -7 </td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="44%">

<strong>Wheel Inboard increase (inches):</strong>
</td>
<td width="16%">
<p align=center >- N/A -</p>
</td>
<td width="40%"> 0.224 </td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="44%">

<strong>Wheel Outboard increase (inches):</strong>
</td>
<td width="16%">
<p align=center >- N/A -</p>
</td>
<td width="40%"> 0.775 </td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="44%">

<strong>Tire & Wheel Inboard increase (inches):</strong>
</td>
<td width="16%">
<p align=center >- N/A -</p>
</td>
<td width="40%"> 0.619 </td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="44%">

<strong>Tire & Wheel Outboard increase (inches):</strong>
</td>
<td width="16%"> <p align=center >- N/A -</p>
</td>
<td width="40%"> 1.17 </td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="44%">

<strong>Effect on tire track (inches):</strong>
</td>
<td width="16%">
<p align=center >- N/A -</p>
</td>
<td width="40%"> 1.34 </td>
</tr>
</table>

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[This message has been edited by DrJeckle and Hyde (edited 04-01-2001).]

RMGCL-S

It's time for me to make a decision. I think I'll try out the wheels with 225/40/18's. I would hold off if the wheels were not the Neeper Flys. These wheels are sick. Thanks for the help.

RMGCL-S

On that converter thing, the 18 X 8.5 wheel with a 36mm offset and a 225 series tire would not move in at all and stick out only 1.5 more than stock. It looks like it will work.