Zapata

What tire sizes could I go with and not rub. I'll be dropping the car with teinSS. Closer to comptech, perhaps lower but not much, car will be dropped even.

Six Shifter

235/45/17 should be the ticket. this size looks good on the 17x7.5 rim, and I would think the 48 offset shouldn't cause any problems, drop or not. I have this combo on a set of Konig's I took off my Maxima, but they will not transfer to the CL because the 42 offset causes the rim/tire to protrude past the wheelwell, especially in the back. no rubbing with no drop, but the overall appearance seems to be more at home in the barrio.

Scooter

even a 245-series tire CAN work, but yer stretchin it

typeR

225/45 and you'll make the gearing even tighter

Zapata

Hmmmmm. Yeah I've had this desire for 40 series tire But in order to that I'd have to 245/40/17 so my odometer wouldn't be off by like 5% I might just have to DEAL and go with 225/45 as TypeR and MattG have suggested.

What do you all think? 245/40 would be too much of stretch????

mattg

go 33x12.5-17


you might have to roll your back fenders though.

Scooter

the 40 sidewall height will help u, but i dunno how much u wanna lower the car...plus the 40 sidewall height will give louder noise

BUT the 40 sidewall height looks killer on some good rims, and a 245-series tire is HUGE

if u look back at the tire comparo i was doin with max performance tires, i think i put in the 245's that were available on my 7.5" GT1's

Zapata

Ugh too many issues with the 245/40. 225/45 it is..... 245/40 won't even fit on a 7.5'' rim. I'd have to go with a 17x8 rim.


The 17x8 ssr competition offset is 40. Any problems with that and a 225/45 tire and/or 245/40?

EricL

The 17x8 SSR Competition offset is +48 (NOT +40).

Technique runs the 245/40-17s on the SSRs (17x8 +48) and they look and work great. However, he is NOT lowered!

I think I may switch to 245/40-17 if I only drop an inch or leave things alone. (comptech sways + stock springs + stock shocks)

I know two people running 235/45-17 on 17x7.5 +52 (and 17x7.5 + 48) and they are doing fine with Comptechs.

There is a problem with 235/45-17 + 17x8 +48 + Comptech + Koni. The problem goes away with a change to 225/45-17. (The problem goes away with the removal of the Konis).

That's all I know...

Zapata

ericL,
thank, i was on the speedstar website and was attempting to figure out the right #'s thanks for setting it straight. I'd love the look and the performance of nice low and wide tire but considering the issues I face may decide just to go with a 225/45 setup.

Scooter

u should also consider 235/40's if yer really concerned bout rubbing...sure u'll b narrowing down severely yer choices and throwing off the odo a little, but it's an option u have

Zapata

scooter,
235/40 would leave the odo off ALOT Like 4% or something crazy. I'll have to check again.

Slimey

Aargh!!! While Zaino'ing my car today I noticed a bubble in the sidewall of the passenger front tire. Time for upgrade.

I've rarely parallel parked the car. The rim is unscratched. I just washed the car last week and the tires looked good...just average city driving over the last week. No tire trauma.

Acura said this is not a warranty item and I'd have to pay for a new tire ($175 + $18 mount). Doesn't seem worth it for another crappy MXM Michelin.

I wanted to go to 235/45-17 because of the variety of tire available in this size and similar rollout so the odometer and navi are happy, but want to stay in wheel specs.

I've been eyeing the SSR GT1 too. They seem to look good on the CL-S and I've not heard anyone say anything bad about SSR. The 17x7.5" is +48 offset. I'm not lowered but am planning to go to Comptech springs later on in the year.

I'm pricing the whole package on TireRack now. Just deciding on tire.

Scooter - How do you like the PZero Nero's? Are they as loud as other Pirelli's?

I'm actually thinking about the Sumitomo HTR + for an all weather. Even though the Michelin Pilot Sport A/S gets good reviews, I don't see how can support a company that made such a bad OEM product. It's amazing the number of reviews that people complain about sidewall bubbles in the Michelin.

Six Shifter

if you check, the Sumi HTR+ is like .1 below the PS A/S overall after everything is considered (based on their survey which is on the TireRack site) for < 50% of the cost. Also, I've talked to my tire installer and the 235/45/17 is doable on the 17x7 rims ... many have done it and to date nobody has complained. Don't be too hasty in discarding this option.

Scooter

tires r good so far...still breaking them in

tire noise seems the same as the Pilot Sport A/S (minimal)...definitely do not feel like the Proxes

mdbenge

The number one tire according to the owners survy on Tirerack is the Firestone Firehawk SZ50 which is the best tire I've owned. They are extremely quiet, ride smooth, look aggressive and handle great on dry or wet (rain). The only complaint I might have with them is they seem to wear pretty fast ~22K miles. The other thing that should be said is that they are strictly summer tires!

Zapata

mdbenge,
I was looking at those.....hmmmmmm.

Slimey

I have to add a hmmm myself.

I'm thinking maybe I'll just do summer tires and worry about the winter when it comes again...but then again, I really don't want to be change my tires just because the roads are crappy for two or three days a year.

Decisions, decisions, decisions.

...and I know that A LOT of people have put 235/45-17 on the stock rim, but I'd rather not have the out of spec tire on the rim. I'd spend too much time thinking and worrying about it...my own hangups.

Six Shifter

This statement only applies to the category of Ultra High Performance. My input was specific to Slimey's comment of a desire to purchase an all weather tire, which falls into the category of Ultra High Performance All Season and was directed to the last blub from his post. Although your comment is correct when quantified, it is incorrect in the context of the statement I was making. AND, I now see that the Continental Contact has replaced the Michelin Pilot Sport A/S as the #1 tire in this category - although this is base on only some 43K + respondents and is a far cry from the number of respondents who have used the Mich's and the Sumi's.

Slimey

Has anyone here (or elsewhere) reported on sidewall bubbles on the Michelin Pilot Sport A/S?

As said a few posts ago, the impetus from my tire replacement is because of a sidewall in the OEM Michelin Pilot MXM4. I've read both here and TireRack that many people have this bubbling problem with this tire.

Is this a problem with the Michelin line, or just the OEM tire? (and any theories why?)

Six Shifter

If memory serves, there was one person who complained that he had problems with the A/S's, and he got them all replaced but don't recall if he ever followed up on how the replacement set worked out. Other than that, he was the only person who had any issues with the A/S's that I recall seeing posted, while there is a fairly large segment of the members who have noted problems with the OEMs.

Slimey

On the same subject, is there any recourse for the OEM's sidewall bubbling? The dealer said that road hazard is not included with the tire warranty, and that bubbling is considered a road hazard issue.

I was going to write letters to Michelin and Acura, but I don't expect to get anything of it except a reply with something like, 'Thank you for your concern..."

lou_RENAMED

Zapata this review will be long but will help in making a very important decision cause the wheels and tires combo pretty much decides on how well you want your car to perform.

With the SSR Comps. in 17 x 8 with 48 offset the 235/45 is an ideal tire size for a 8 inch rim meaning that the tire is close to 8 inch in width itself.

With the Comptech springs and stock shocks with the SSR comps and 235/45 ZR 17 you will rub only when hitting a big bump while turning, on everyday driving NO not even with 4 people in the car. Since my installation of the Comptech Titanium bar I do not rub whatsoever even in the places before I think since the bar holds the struts apart compared to stock where it just uses the first 2 bolts it holds the wheels in place more and doesn't allow them to shift during hard cornering. I can't explain why but Im tellling you what I've experienced.

With the Comptech springs and Koni adjustables with the SSR comps and 235/45 ZR 17 you will rub more often since the stock bump stop is replaced and a smaller one is installed. I personally haven't experienced it but I was advised from EricL about this issues so Koni's are out.

If you are considering the Teins I don't know how low you want to go but I do hear if you go too low the Teins are too soft. I have heard great reviews on the Zeals but they are $$$$ so look into best deals you can get. They offer the flexibility and provide excellent performance on par with true sport cars.

Tires:

I was complaining about the Michelin Pilot A/S in the 235/45 ZR 17 becasue they peel more than expected especially after the Icebox and headers. Since the temp. has gone up to 60 degrees I have noticed a significant decrease in tire peeling even to the point where I can't make them peel. The tires are all season traction AA and temp A meaning in low temps they will suck but so will almost 95% of the tires in the market. These tires are great in the rain and I am so confident to drive agrressive in the rain now of course to a certain extent. The tires are not wide for a 235/45 and make your rims look bigger because they don't bubble further out than the rim...reason why the tires are not wide is for hydroplaining issues. These tires are super quiet you must know cause you have them and they last long cause mine are a couple of months old and the thread looks brand spanking new. These tires are the best in the rain and will provide you excellent summer tire perfromance in summer weather they are just not good in less than 40 degree weather. Oh and these tires are best with 35-36 lbs of air they will give you excellent cornering abilities very little sidewall bend particularly because of the 45 aspect ratio.

another thing I wanted to mention is the very little torque steer increase from stock that have with the Comps and the A/S. Mainly because the tires are not square like and are more oval in design again to prevent hydroplaining.

Well these are all very good things to consider becasue i had the Toyo Fz4 in 235/45 and boy was there torque steer especially at full throttle trying to turn the wheel it was like the car had a mind of its own.

Zapata these are my experiences with the products and if they save you some pennies than good. Of course there are other great tires but IMO the A/S rock even in the snow and will see how they perform on 3/29

Zapata

Lou,
thanks for the info!!!! It really does help alot. Yeah the Pilot Sports aren't peeling out as much now the that the temp has gone up. Although these still won't be enough after i get headers and light weight rims so I know i need to look at some other tires. After listening to everyones opinion i think i'll go with the 225/45 or 235/45. Now that I pretty much have the tire, the size and rim picked out I really need to figure out if I should do the rims/tires first or the suspension first.

lou_RENAMED

what suspension if you don't mind me asking??

Zapata

teinSS. Zeal seems to be top notch product, doesn't seem to require any change of the rate or revalving of the shocks. However, one thing I really do like about the teinSS is the ability to add the EDFC in the rear. I really don't want to take out the rear seat every time i want to adjust the shocks. In the end it might end up paying about as much as the Zeals but I think i get more because i get more adjustability and control form the cabin.

MilPaint

I have the same wheel specs, comptech springs and sways. I bought 225/45/17 yesterday they fit nice, no rubbing. Could go to 235/45 without any trouble. Depends on what you like.

Slimey

More questions...

Scooter - Any rubbing with your set up? I might be willing to try the Nero too, if I can just decide what kind of tire I want.

I don't know why this decision is so tough for me. I'm pretty sure I'm going with the +48 SSR GT1. I cannot decide between a summer tire and an all season. It just doesn't snow enough to justify a full set of dedicated snow tires, or does it?...

Slimey

Just installed my new SSR GT1 17x7.5 +48 with Sumitomo HTR+ 235/45-17 93W.

Ordered from TireRack on Monday AM and the installed set was waiting for me on my back porch when I got home.

Yee Haa!



(next is springs & sways...)

Six Shifter

pics?

mdbenge

You're absolutely correct. My bad. I missed the "all-season" lead in however in fairness to myself I did mention the Firehawk SZ50 are strickly summer tires.

Slimey

I finally made a decision for all season performance tires. I don't think there's enough snow here to justify a dedicated winter setup, yet it does occasionally snow, sleet, and ice here.

I figured, especially for the money, I couldn't go wrong with the Sumitomo. Every one seems to rave about these tires. I was originally thinking of replacing the OEMs with the Michelin Pilot Sport A/S, however, after the bubbling I was hesitant to re-invest in a Michelin product -- with some research, I saw too many complaints about sidewall bubbles in the OEM.

The SSR GT1s look nice. Maybe I'll take pics this weekend -- but you guys have seen a CL-S with GT1s before -- I didn't get too radical!