10K HIDs on 99 TL!!!
05-23-2004, 10:58 PM
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10K HIDs on 99 TL!!!
You heard it right. I have been hearing that our ballasts can't handle anything pass 6000K for the longest so I decided to test it out for myself. I know a couple of people claiming that they have 8000K or even 10K HIDs on their rides but no pics were ever showned. So I went out and bought myself 10K HIDs from autolamp.
Now before all you guys go and bitch about losing light output, I already know about that.:thefinger To be honest, the light output did not go down as much as I thought. It is much bluer now than the 6000Ks I had on before and it looks great. Don't worry, I still have my 6000Ks just in case if anything goes wrong.
Last but not least, I would like to make a shout-out and a thank you to Mr. from this board.
He took time out to install the bulbs for me. Since I bought the D2S (which is for projectors), he had to dremel off a piece to make it fit in the D2R socket. I was going to change my fogs also but the fucking brand new bulbs decided not to work.
Anyways, Dan did a great job and I would recommend him to anybody who wants something done to their ride.
Ok, enough talk. Here are some pics:
10K during the daytime
10K at night
6000K at night (same angle as the 10K)
10K
6000K
Now before all you guys go and bitch about losing light output, I already know about that.:thefinger To be honest, the light output did not go down as much as I thought. It is much bluer now than the 6000Ks I had on before and it looks great. Don't worry, I still have my 6000Ks just in case if anything goes wrong.
Last but not least, I would like to make a shout-out and a thank you to Mr. from this board.
He took time out to install the bulbs for me. Since I bought the D2S (which is for projectors), he had to dremel off a piece to make it fit in the D2R socket. I was going to change my fogs also but the fucking brand new bulbs decided not to work. Anyways, Dan did a great job and I would recommend him to anybody who wants something done to their ride.Ok, enough talk. Here are some pics:
10K during the daytime
10K at night
6000K at night (same angle as the 10K)
10K
6000K
05-23-2004, 11:15 PM
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guys. `K` or kelvin... is just color temperature. our ballasts have nothing to do with it.
higher number does not mean brighter light or better illumination or anything but the COLOR of the light.
and what color looks best is all about personal preference.
anyway... im with jesal. i personally like the purplish color in the 6-8 range than the bluer color of the 10ks.
higher number does not mean brighter light or better illumination or anything but the COLOR of the light.
and what color looks best is all about personal preference.
anyway... im with jesal. i personally like the purplish color in the 6-8 range than the bluer color of the 10ks.
05-23-2004, 11:15 PM
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Originally posted by htown
that shit is gangsta, someone post up DIY and price!
that shit is gangsta, someone post up DIY and price!
to DIY you just buy new bulbs at a different color temperature than yours.
you do know how to change a light bulb, right?
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05-23-2004, 11:18 PM
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Originally posted by sidemarker
damn i want 10k!!!
how much and do they sell dr2??
sidemarker
damn i want 10k!!!
how much and do they sell dr2??
sidemarker
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05-23-2004, 11:18 PM
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Originally posted by soopa
anyway... im with jesal. i personally like the purplish color in the 6-8 range than the bluer color of the 10ks.
anyway... im with jesal. i personally like the purplish color in the 6-8 range than the bluer color of the 10ks.
05-23-2004, 11:20 PM
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Originally posted by Ant7701
Thats' HOT!!!!!!Very HOT!!!!So HOT that I give it 2-3 months before u literally melt ur headlight housings!!!!
Thats' HOT!!!!!!Very HOT!!!!So HOT that I give it 2-3 months before u literally melt ur headlight housings!!!!
guys. `K` or kelvin... is just color temperature. our ballasts have nothing to do with it.
higher number does not mean brighter light or better illumination or anything but the COLOR of the light.
and what color looks best is all about personal preference.
anyway... im with jesal. i personally like the purplish color in the 6-8 range than the bluer color of the 10ks.
05-23-2004, 11:22 PM
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Originally posted by want_updohg?
the blue looks like those cheap aftermarket bulbs you always see on ebay or driving on the road at night.
the blue looks like those cheap aftermarket bulbs you always see on ebay or driving on the road at night.
thats what I was thinking. every shitty civic has lights that look like that.
05-24-2004, 12:58 AM
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for reference, sunlight 6500k
the NTSC standard for white, which is based on the color of sunlight on a summer day in the northern hemisphere. Exact definition of that standard gets fairly complicated (again, see the chromaticity diagram), but for all practical video purposes it is equivalent to a “color temperature” of 6,500 K, or kelvins.
Unfortunately, the grayscale on most TVs is factory set for a color temperature well above 6,500 K — usually somewhere in the range of 8,000 to 10,000 K, which lends images an unnaturally bluish cast.
Unfortunately, the grayscale on most TVs is factory set for a color temperature well above 6,500 K — usually somewhere in the range of 8,000 to 10,000 K, which lends images an unnaturally bluish cast.
05-24-2004, 01:26 AM
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Originally posted by TranceFusion
damn.. those are some bright ass lights...
damn.. those are some bright ass lights...
they might look bright. but they are not when you see them on the road. stock 4300k are the best for visibility.
05-24-2004, 08:42 AM
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they might look bright. but they are not when you see them on the road. stock 4300k are the best for visibility.
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they might look bright. but they are not when you see them on the road. stock 4300k are the best for visibility.
Props on getting them done... but honestly, why go above 6k? Do you not like to have the road well lit?
05-24-2004, 10:11 AM
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Originally posted by Crazy Sellout
i like the 6000k better
i like the 6000k better
That shit looks ghetto, looks to much like the ricer bulbsand the 10K is just the color, doesn't represent the power
05-24-2004, 10:14 AM
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Originally posted by juniorbean
Props on getting them done... but honestly, why go above 6k? Do you not like to have the road well lit?
Props on getting them done... but honestly, why go above 6k? Do you not like to have the road well lit?
05-24-2004, 10:31 AM
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I don't like 'em too blue for me, like the 1000s of fake blue bulbs out there, IMHO.
I have doubts that these bulbs are 10K, I want you to take a picture of the actual bulb. The reason for this doubt is that 10K bulbs high a high tolerance of failure rate, due to that, not many people manufacture them (definitely not Hella! Who manufacturers 99.9% of the world's HID components from movies to cars). Some companies try to pass 10K bulbs by coating them in blue (like fake-HIDs) which does nothing really except put a color filter over and HID bulb. The proper mercury, xenon, etc. in a 10K is iffy. Though xenon has been around since the early 1900s, developers have stepped away from producing a higher lumens (K) due to the decrease in visible light and failure rate of adjacent components (ballasts) due to initial arc-startup (normalling 25-35000 volts is required for a 4200K bulb, at 10K this number can double or triple).
But, to each his own, keep us updated and if you can provide pictures of the bulb.
I have doubts that these bulbs are 10K, I want you to take a picture of the actual bulb. The reason for this doubt is that 10K bulbs high a high tolerance of failure rate, due to that, not many people manufacture them (definitely not Hella! Who manufacturers 99.9% of the world's HID components from movies to cars). Some companies try to pass 10K bulbs by coating them in blue (like fake-HIDs) which does nothing really except put a color filter over and HID bulb. The proper mercury, xenon, etc. in a 10K is iffy. Though xenon has been around since the early 1900s, developers have stepped away from producing a higher lumens (K) due to the decrease in visible light and failure rate of adjacent components (ballasts) due to initial arc-startup (normalling 25-35000 volts is required for a 4200K bulb, at 10K this number can double or triple).
But, to each his own, keep us updated and if you can provide pictures of the bulb.
05-24-2004, 11:34 AM
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Originally posted by oonowindoo
they might look bright. but they are not when you see them on the road. stock 4300k are the best for visibility.
they might look bright. but they are not when you see them on the road. stock 4300k are the best for visibility.
x 10,000
05-24-2004, 02:41 PM
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Originally posted by NiteQwill
I don't like 'em too blue for me, like the 1000s of fake blue bulbs out there, IMHO.
I have doubts that these bulbs are 10K, I want you to take a picture of the actual bulb. The reason for this doubt is that 10K bulbs high a high tolerance of failure rate, due to that, not many people manufacture them (definitely not Hella! Who manufacturers 99.9% of the world's HID components from movies to cars). Some companies try to pass 10K bulbs by coating them in blue (like fake-HIDs) which does nothing really except put a color filter over and HID bulb. The proper mercury, xenon, etc. in a 10K is iffy. Though xenon has been around since the early 1900s, developers have stepped away from producing a higher lumens (K) due to the decrease in visible light and failure rate of adjacent components (ballasts) due to initial arc-startup (normalling 25-35000 volts is required for a 4200K bulb, at 10K this number can double or triple).
But, to each his own, keep us updated and if you can provide pictures of the bulb.
I don't like 'em too blue for me, like the 1000s of fake blue bulbs out there, IMHO.
I have doubts that these bulbs are 10K, I want you to take a picture of the actual bulb. The reason for this doubt is that 10K bulbs high a high tolerance of failure rate, due to that, not many people manufacture them (definitely not Hella! Who manufacturers 99.9% of the world's HID components from movies to cars). Some companies try to pass 10K bulbs by coating them in blue (like fake-HIDs) which does nothing really except put a color filter over and HID bulb. The proper mercury, xenon, etc. in a 10K is iffy. Though xenon has been around since the early 1900s, developers have stepped away from producing a higher lumens (K) due to the decrease in visible light and failure rate of adjacent components (ballasts) due to initial arc-startup (normalling 25-35000 volts is required for a 4200K bulb, at 10K this number can double or triple).
But, to each his own, keep us updated and if you can provide pictures of the bulb.
FYI, I bought these at autolamps and I really don't think they sell fake HIDs.
05-24-2004, 02:45 PM
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Originally posted by mrdeeno
it brings that "blue" song to my head.
i give it 2-3 days before he gets pulled over!
it brings that "blue" song to my head.
i give it 2-3 days before he gets pulled over!
05-24-2004, 02:46 PM
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Originally posted by soopa
guys. `K` or kelvin... is just color temperature. our ballasts have nothing to do with it.
higher number does not mean brighter light or better illumination or anything but the COLOR of the light.
and what color looks best is all about personal preference.
guys. `K` or kelvin... is just color temperature. our ballasts have nothing to do with it.
higher number does not mean brighter light or better illumination or anything but the COLOR of the light.
and what color looks best is all about personal preference.
05-24-2004, 02:48 PM
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Hahah.. this piss-fight with STRANGERS of who has the brightest and bluest lights on the road is beyond comprehension.
Amazing how self-conscious ppl are :o
Amazing how self-conscious ppl are :o
05-24-2004, 02:49 PM
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Originally posted by shaHn78
Hahah.. this piss-fight with STRANGERS of who has the brightest and bluest lights on the road is beyond comprehension.
Amazing how self-conscious ppl are :o
Hahah.. this piss-fight with STRANGERS of who has the brightest and bluest lights on the road is beyond comprehension.
Amazing how self-conscious ppl are :o
what thread are you reading?
05-24-2004, 02:51 PM
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FWIW, it looks a lot bluer in the pics than it does in person so :pfawk: . The same thing happened when I first installed the 6000Ks. It has more of a purplish tint to it when compared to a 02+ TL with 6000Ks. I wonder if the diffuser has anything to do with it.
I'll see how long I'll keep these on. I still have my 6000Ks for backup.
I'll see how long I'll keep these on. I still have my 6000Ks for backup.
05-24-2004, 04:01 PM
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Originally posted by pimpscls
that looks pretty sweet!!!!!, but im more of the stock purple look, especially audi's and beemers!!!!!!
that looks pretty sweet!!!!!, but im more of the stock purple look, especially audi's and beemers!!!!!!
Blackshadow:
Did I ever say they were fake HIDs? I was simply stating a possibility coating an HID bulb which many Korean brand HID component makers do (McCullough). Glad you proved me wrong. Are you saying you bought them from Autolamps-online.com? Hid-Online.com? Based in the UK? If you talking about them, I have bought many kits from them in the past for retro-fit fabrications I have made for the VW community, they don't sell 10K bulbs. I know Eric Cortis, the owner. he's a previous employee of Philipps and Hella and is against selling other-than-OEM parts.
Another topic of concern is visible light. You are not going to see anything in the rain due to:
Blue light/Any light spectrum above 4300K does not penetrate rain, snow, fog, etc.
You will receive a reflection back at you
Good luck
05-24-2004, 04:31 PM
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Originally posted by BlackShadow
Did you just read what soopa wrote:
guys. `K` or kelvin... is just color temperature. our ballasts have nothing to do with it.
higher number does not mean brighter light or better illumination or anything but the COLOR of the light.
and what color looks best is all about personal preference.
anyway... im with jesal. i personally like the purplish color in the 6-8 range than the bluer color of the 10ks.
Did you just read what soopa wrote:
guys. `K` or kelvin... is just color temperature. our ballasts have nothing to do with it.
higher number does not mean brighter light or better illumination or anything but the COLOR of the light.
and what color looks best is all about personal preference.
anyway... im with jesal. i personally like the purplish color in the 6-8 range than the bluer color of the 10ks.
