10K HIDs on 99 TL!!!

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old May 23, 2004 | 10:58 PM
  #1  
BlackShadow's Avatar
Thread Starter
O.G.
 
Joined: Nov 2000
Posts: 11,744
Likes: 1
From: East Hanover, NJ
10K HIDs on 99 TL!!!

You heard it right. I have been hearing that our ballasts can't handle anything pass 6000K for the longest so I decided to test it out for myself. I know a couple of people claiming that they have 8000K or even 10K HIDs on their rides but no pics were ever showned. So I went out and bought myself 10K HIDs from autolamp.

Now before all you guys go and bitch about losing light output, I already know about that.:thefinger To be honest, the light output did not go down as much as I thought. It is much bluer now than the 6000Ks I had on before and it looks great. Don't worry, I still have my 6000Ks just in case if anything goes wrong.

Last but not least, I would like to make a shout-out and a thank you to Mr. from this board. He took time out to install the bulbs for me. Since I bought the D2S (which is for projectors), he had to dremel off a piece to make it fit in the D2R socket. I was going to change my fogs also but the fucking brand new bulbs decided not to work. Anyways, Dan did a great job and I would recommend him to anybody who wants something done to their ride.

Ok, enough talk. Here are some pics:

10K during the daytime


10K at night


6000K at night (same angle as the 10K)




10K


6000K


Reply
Old May 23, 2004 | 11:03 PM
  #2  
wakeboardfusion's Avatar
Miss th 3.0
 
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 3,235
Likes: 0
From: Coeur d alene ID
shit...thats hott...im gunna do 10 k on my cl
Reply
Old May 23, 2004 | 11:07 PM
  #3  
sidemarker's Avatar
Suzuka Master
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 6,085
Likes: 0
From: TEXAS
damn i want 10k!!!

how much and do they sell dr2??

sidemarker
Reply
Old May 23, 2004 | 11:09 PM
  #4  
Crazy Bimmer's Avatar
Senior Moderator
 
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 34,937
Likes: 638
From: Chicago Burbs
i like the 6000k better
Reply
Old May 23, 2004 | 11:14 PM
  #5  
htown's Avatar
3-piece FTW
 
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 1,285
Likes: 0
From: houston, tx
that shit is gangsta, someone post up DIY and price!
Reply
Old May 23, 2004 | 11:15 PM
  #6  
soopa's Avatar
The Creator
 
Joined: Apr 2000
Posts: 37,950
Likes: 8
From: Albany, NY
guys. `K` or kelvin... is just color temperature. our ballasts have nothing to do with it.


higher number does not mean brighter light or better illumination or anything but the COLOR of the light.

and what color looks best is all about personal preference.


anyway... im with jesal. i personally like the purplish color in the 6-8 range than the bluer color of the 10ks.
Reply
Old May 23, 2004 | 11:15 PM
  #7  
soopa's Avatar
The Creator
 
Joined: Apr 2000
Posts: 37,950
Likes: 8
From: Albany, NY
Originally posted by htown
that shit is gangsta, someone post up DIY and price!

to DIY you just buy new bulbs at a different color temperature than yours.

you do know how to change a light bulb, right?
Reply
Old May 23, 2004 | 11:16 PM
  #8  
Ant7701's Avatar
Sweet as Gold
 
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 2,869
Likes: 1
From: NY
Thats' HOT!!!!!!Very HOT!!!!So HOT that I give it 2-3 months before u literally melt ur headlight housings!!!!
Reply
Old May 23, 2004 | 11:18 PM
  #9  
BlackShadow's Avatar
Thread Starter
O.G.
 
Joined: Nov 2000
Posts: 11,744
Likes: 1
From: East Hanover, NJ
Originally posted by sidemarker
damn i want 10k!!!

how much and do they sell dr2??

sidemarker
Yea. I got a pair for only $164. On the site it says D2S but they should have D2R too cause 6000K is listed as D2S but people have 6000K D2R also.

http://www.autolamps-online.com/gasdischarge/index.htm
Reply
Old May 23, 2004 | 11:18 PM
  #10  
farberstyle's Avatar
something witty
 
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 1,541
Likes: 0
From: Orange County
Originally posted by soopa

anyway... im with jesal. i personally like the purplish color in the 6-8 range than the bluer color of the 10ks.
the blue looks like those cheap aftermarket bulbs you always see on ebay or driving on the road at night.
Reply
Old May 23, 2004 | 11:20 PM
  #11  
BlackShadow's Avatar
Thread Starter
O.G.
 
Joined: Nov 2000
Posts: 11,744
Likes: 1
From: East Hanover, NJ
Originally posted by Ant7701
Thats' HOT!!!!!!Very HOT!!!!So HOT that I give it 2-3 months before u literally melt ur headlight housings!!!!
Did you just read what soopa wrote:

guys. `K` or kelvin... is just color temperature. our ballasts have nothing to do with it.


higher number does not mean brighter light or better illumination or anything but the COLOR of the light.

and what color looks best is all about personal preference.


anyway... im with jesal. i personally like the purplish color in the 6-8 range than the bluer color of the 10ks.
Reply
Old May 23, 2004 | 11:22 PM
  #12  
darrinb's Avatar
///M POWER
 
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 15,299
Likes: 1
From: West Bloomfield, MI
wow thats bright
Reply
Old May 23, 2004 | 11:22 PM
  #13  
BEETROOT's Avatar
Yeehaw
 
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 20,972
Likes: 26
From: Chandler, Arizona
Originally posted by want_updohg?
the blue looks like those cheap aftermarket bulbs you always see on ebay or driving on the road at night.



thats what I was thinking. every shitty civic has lights that look like that.
Reply
Old May 24, 2004 | 12:42 AM
  #14  
TranceFusion's Avatar
Three Wheelin'
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 1,324
Likes: 0
From: Bay Area/California
damn.. those are some bright ass lights...
Reply
Old May 24, 2004 | 12:58 AM
  #15  
KavexTrax's Avatar
Suzuka Master
 
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 8,546
Likes: 0
From: Santa Clarita, CA
for reference, sunlight 6500k

the NTSC standard for white, which is based on the color of sunlight on a summer day in the northern hemisphere. Exact definition of that standard gets fairly complicated (again, see the chromaticity diagram), but for all practical video purposes it is equivalent to a “color temperature” of 6,500 K, or kelvins.

Unfortunately, the grayscale on most TVs is factory set for a color temperature well above 6,500 K — usually somewhere in the range of 8,000 to 10,000 K, which lends images an unnaturally bluish cast.
:avgeek:
Reply
Old May 24, 2004 | 01:26 AM
  #16  
oonowindoo's Avatar
Team Owner
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 23,362
Likes: 4,273
From: Los Angeles
Originally posted by TranceFusion
damn.. those are some bright ass lights...
__________________________

they might look bright. but they are not when you see them on the road. stock 4300k are the best for visibility.
Reply
Old May 24, 2004 | 08:32 AM
  #17  
Chaptorial's Avatar
Race Director
 
Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 18,552
Likes: 4
From: Long Island, NY
I Like that blue look. Real nice.
Reply
Old May 24, 2004 | 08:42 AM
  #18  
juniorbean's Avatar
Senior Moderator
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 28,461
Likes: 1,760
From: The QC
Originally posted by oonowindoo
__________________________

they might look bright. but they are not when you see them on the road. stock 4300k are the best for visibility.
Props on getting them done... but honestly, why go above 6k? Do you not like to have the road well lit?
Reply
Old May 24, 2004 | 08:47 AM
  #19  
mrdeeno's Avatar
Suzuka Master
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 5,349
Likes: 3
From: Lower Nazzie, Pa
it brings that "blue" song to my head.

i give it 2-3 days before he gets pulled over!
Reply
Old May 24, 2004 | 09:58 AM
  #20  
sushimaster's Avatar
Racer
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 376
Likes: 0
From: Houston
Bout time somebody finally post something worth a damn.
Reply
Old May 24, 2004 | 10:11 AM
  #21  
CLpower's Avatar
teh Senior Instigator
 
Joined: Sep 2000
Posts: 44,094
Likes: 980
From: Huntington Beach, CA -> Ashburn, VA -> Raleigh, NC -> Walnut Creek, CA
Originally posted by Crazy Sellout
i like the 6000k better

That shit looks ghetto, looks to much like the ricer bulbs


and the 10K is just the color, doesn't represent the power
Reply
Old May 24, 2004 | 10:14 AM
  #22  
CLpower's Avatar
teh Senior Instigator
 
Joined: Sep 2000
Posts: 44,094
Likes: 980
From: Huntington Beach, CA -> Ashburn, VA -> Raleigh, NC -> Walnut Creek, CA
Originally posted by juniorbean
Props on getting them done... but honestly, why go above 6k? Do you not like to have the road well lit?
exactly,he probably just lost half his visibility
Reply
Old May 24, 2004 | 10:31 AM
  #23  
NiteQwill's Avatar
Adventurist.
 
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 6,661
Likes: 58
From: Orange County, CA
I don't like 'em too blue for me, like the 1000s of fake blue bulbs out there, IMHO.

I have doubts that these bulbs are 10K, I want you to take a picture of the actual bulb. The reason for this doubt is that 10K bulbs high a high tolerance of failure rate, due to that, not many people manufacture them (definitely not Hella! Who manufacturers 99.9% of the world's HID components from movies to cars). Some companies try to pass 10K bulbs by coating them in blue (like fake-HIDs) which does nothing really except put a color filter over and HID bulb. The proper mercury, xenon, etc. in a 10K is iffy. Though xenon has been around since the early 1900s, developers have stepped away from producing a higher lumens (K) due to the decrease in visible light and failure rate of adjacent components (ballasts) due to initial arc-startup (normalling 25-35000 volts is required for a 4200K bulb, at 10K this number can double or triple).

But, to each his own, keep us updated and if you can provide pictures of the bulb.
Reply
Old May 24, 2004 | 11:34 AM
  #24  
blader's Avatar
Audi S4 driver
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 2,064
Likes: 0
From: Forked River NJ
Originally posted by oonowindoo
they might look bright. but they are not when you see them on the road. stock 4300k are the best for visibility.
x 10,000
Reply
Old May 24, 2004 | 01:40 PM
  #25  
CLpower's Avatar
teh Senior Instigator
 
Joined: Sep 2000
Posts: 44,094
Likes: 980
From: Huntington Beach, CA -> Ashburn, VA -> Raleigh, NC -> Walnut Creek, CA
it may look better if you get rid of those blue corner bulbs, those things look beyond
Reply
Old May 24, 2004 | 02:41 PM
  #26  
BlackShadow's Avatar
Thread Starter
O.G.
 
Joined: Nov 2000
Posts: 11,744
Likes: 1
From: East Hanover, NJ
Originally posted by NiteQwill
I don't like 'em too blue for me, like the 1000s of fake blue bulbs out there, IMHO.

I have doubts that these bulbs are 10K, I want you to take a picture of the actual bulb. The reason for this doubt is that 10K bulbs high a high tolerance of failure rate, due to that, not many people manufacture them (definitely not Hella! Who manufacturers 99.9% of the world's HID components from movies to cars). Some companies try to pass 10K bulbs by coating them in blue (like fake-HIDs) which does nothing really except put a color filter over and HID bulb. The proper mercury, xenon, etc. in a 10K is iffy. Though xenon has been around since the early 1900s, developers have stepped away from producing a higher lumens (K) due to the decrease in visible light and failure rate of adjacent components (ballasts) due to initial arc-startup (normalling 25-35000 volts is required for a 4200K bulb, at 10K this number can double or triple).

But, to each his own, keep us updated and if you can provide pictures of the bulb.
I forgot to take pics of the bulbs before I got them installed. But the bulb is definitely clear, NOT BLUE-COATED!! Here is a pic of it on their website:



FYI, I bought these at autolamps and I really don't think they sell fake HIDs.
Reply
Old May 24, 2004 | 02:44 PM
  #27  
CLpower's Avatar
teh Senior Instigator
 
Joined: Sep 2000
Posts: 44,094
Likes: 980
From: Huntington Beach, CA -> Ashburn, VA -> Raleigh, NC -> Walnut Creek, CA
ricer :P
Reply
Old May 24, 2004 | 02:45 PM
  #28  
BlackShadow's Avatar
Thread Starter
O.G.
 
Joined: Nov 2000
Posts: 11,744
Likes: 1
From: East Hanover, NJ
Originally posted by mrdeeno
it brings that "blue" song to my head.

i give it 2-3 days before he gets pulled over!
It all depends on the mood of the cop. I've seen people getting pulled over for oem HIDs cause the cop don't know better. And I've seen cars riding around with purple lights with no problems. But I'll keep you updated if and when I get pulled over.:o
Reply
Old May 24, 2004 | 02:46 PM
  #29  
VXCL's Avatar
AWD Torque Monster
 
Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 4,525
Likes: 0
From: NJ
Originally posted by soopa
guys. `K` or kelvin... is just color temperature. our ballasts have nothing to do with it.


higher number does not mean brighter light or better illumination or anything but the COLOR of the light.

and what color looks best is all about personal preference.
EXACTLY! they are all 35 watts. the damn acura xenon reflectors are so purple to begin with I dont know why you would change. Higher the K the worse light output especially in the rain. osram and philips do not make anything higher then 6000k becuase there is no point. if you want better lighying i would try a oem philips or osram d2s bulb over d2r. same wattage but no black caoting blocking light. if your oem bulbs are d2r 4100k osram try philips 4100k. they are slightly brighter and whiter, but the osrams look more purple and emit more yellow. do not make the mistake of confusing color with better light output. wait till it rains and see what happens.
Reply
Old May 24, 2004 | 02:47 PM
  #30  
BlackShadow's Avatar
Thread Starter
O.G.
 
Joined: Nov 2000
Posts: 11,744
Likes: 1
From: East Hanover, NJ
Originally posted by CLpower
ricer :P
Thanks. I eat rice so therefore I am a ricer.
Reply
Old May 24, 2004 | 02:48 PM
  #31  
shaHn78's Avatar
Fell off my Rocking-Chair
 
Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 1,812
Likes: 0
From: In a different State of Mind
Hahah.. this piss-fight with STRANGERS of who has the brightest and bluest lights on the road is beyond comprehension.



Amazing how self-conscious ppl are :o
Reply
Old May 24, 2004 | 02:49 PM
  #32  
CLpower's Avatar
teh Senior Instigator
 
Joined: Sep 2000
Posts: 44,094
Likes: 980
From: Huntington Beach, CA -> Ashburn, VA -> Raleigh, NC -> Walnut Creek, CA
Originally posted by shaHn78
Hahah.. this piss-fight with STRANGERS of who has the brightest and bluest lights on the road is beyond comprehension.



Amazing how self-conscious ppl are :o

what thread are you reading?
Reply
Old May 24, 2004 | 02:51 PM
  #33  
BlackShadow's Avatar
Thread Starter
O.G.
 
Joined: Nov 2000
Posts: 11,744
Likes: 1
From: East Hanover, NJ
FWIW, it looks a lot bluer in the pics than it does in person so :pfawk: . The same thing happened when I first installed the 6000Ks. It has more of a purplish tint to it when compared to a 02+ TL with 6000Ks. I wonder if the diffuser has anything to do with it.

I'll see how long I'll keep these on. I still have my 6000Ks for backup.
Reply
Old May 24, 2004 | 02:52 PM
  #34  
BlackShadow's Avatar
Thread Starter
O.G.
 
Joined: Nov 2000
Posts: 11,744
Likes: 1
From: East Hanover, NJ
Originally posted by CLpower
what thread are you reading?


We're not fighting, just talking back to each other.
Reply
Old May 24, 2004 | 03:37 PM
  #35  
shaHn78's Avatar
Fell off my Rocking-Chair
 
Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 1,812
Likes: 0
From: In a different State of Mind
I'm not a fighter either, just opinion express-er...
Reply
Old May 24, 2004 | 03:52 PM
  #36  
pimpscls's Avatar
THE SILVER BULLET
 
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 3,659
Likes: 0
From: socal
that looks pretty sweet!!!!!, but im more of the stock purple look, especially audi's and beemers!!!!!!
Reply
Old May 24, 2004 | 04:01 PM
  #37  
NiteQwill's Avatar
Adventurist.
 
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 6,661
Likes: 58
From: Orange County, CA
Originally posted by pimpscls
that looks pretty sweet!!!!!, but im more of the stock purple look, especially audi's and beemers!!!!!!
Uhhhh.... Stock "purple" look is achieved through spherical projectors b/c of the extreme focus of light, any stray light you see, is PURPLE/BLUE, hence, the impossiblity of achieving this "look" through a reflector based HID-lighting... BTW, Audi, BMW, MB uses 4200K bulbs.

Blackshadow:
Did I ever say they were fake HIDs? I was simply stating a possibility coating an HID bulb which many Korean brand HID component makers do (McCullough). Glad you proved me wrong. Are you saying you bought them from Autolamps-online.com? Hid-Online.com? Based in the UK? If you talking about them, I have bought many kits from them in the past for retro-fit fabrications I have made for the VW community, they don't sell 10K bulbs. I know Eric Cortis, the owner. he's a previous employee of Philipps and Hella and is against selling other-than-OEM parts.

Another topic of concern is visible light. You are not going to see anything in the rain due to:
Blue light/Any light spectrum above 4300K does not penetrate rain, snow, fog, etc.
You will receive a reflection back at you

Good luck
Reply
Old May 24, 2004 | 04:31 PM
  #38  
Ant7701's Avatar
Sweet as Gold
 
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 2,869
Likes: 1
From: NY
Originally posted by BlackShadow
Did you just read what soopa wrote:

guys. `K` or kelvin... is just color temperature. our ballasts have nothing to do with it.


higher number does not mean brighter light or better illumination or anything but the COLOR of the light.

and what color looks best is all about personal preference.


anyway... im with jesal. i personally like the purplish color in the 6-8 range than the bluer color of the 10ks.
Dude...I'm not gonna sit here and have an intenet fight w/ u or anything but trust me when I say this...the actuall bulb will get hotter than a factory 4300 bulb. I'm not saying that the number 4300 or 10000K has anything to do w/ temperature, HOWEVER that does not mean that it will not get hotter than OEM!!!I've replaced many sets of headlight housings on TL's and CL's that were melted and warped because of shitty HID bulb replacements. They will not be warrantied and you will have to cough up close to $1000 or more to replace ur housings and bulbs. i'm just trying to warn you now. You don't wanna take my advice fine, it may never happen to you..fine. But I'm telling you from experience.
Reply
Old May 24, 2004 | 04:47 PM
  #39  
NOVAwhiteTypeS's Avatar
Suzuka Master
25 Year Member
 
Joined: Nov 2000
Posts: 7,601
Likes: 0
From: VA
looks good for show but not very practical plus dont' u have cops around where u live?

let me know when 20k comes out. i'll that that out.
Reply
Old May 24, 2004 | 05:48 PM
  #40  
darrinb's Avatar
///M POWER
 
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 15,299
Likes: 1
From: West Bloomfield, MI
i actually like the 6k's on cars, i forget what brand titand19 has but his look sweet
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:25 PM.